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Old 23rd January 2008
Scapula Memory
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Re: e-group UK forum terms and conditions

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Originally Posted by OlyFlyer View Post
I am sorry if I am the kill joy again, but one of the members has just pointed me to the terms and conditions of the forum.



That happaned because I complained about downloading, editing and re-posting one of my images. To me, it is wrong if that is allowed by default, and I, the original photographer and the copyright owner must state specifically if I don't want that. I don't want to use the word 'artist' but I do anyway. Now, do you all consider it is OK to do that with your images without being asked for in advance? Aren't you the artist, the one who decides if you want your image altered in any way? Or is that so that like me, and this member, the terms were not known before, because, honestly, not everybody reads everything in advance. I am sure namely, that the terms were not known to this member, until after several message postings, and possibly some help from somebody else in this matter, who pointed him to the terms.

IMO, if an image is posted, it is everybodies freedom to critisize that image in any way verbally, but to edit an image unless it is asked for is wrong, way out of line, regardless how well meant that is, and I should not have to be one who needs to state that every time I post an image. Only I, the 'artist' have the right to decide what is and what is not an enhancement of my image. I am however always ready to listen to any critical words about my images. I thougth that was very clear here, since this is a photo forum. Apparently, I was mistaken.

OK, enough ranting for today. I will carefully reconsider posting images next time (if there will be a next time), and I am very sad that this behavoir is considered OK on this forum.
What might be helpful here is if Ian changes the default setting for image edit to " no " meaning that the user would have to give permission on request to allow another user to edit the image. This would certainly remove the surprise of having ones images edited without you realising that can be done. I think that would remove the confusion you have experienced.

On another note however I think the T&Cs here are very clear and easy to understand. It can be solidly argued that it is your responsibility to read them as you would have ticked a box in the set up process that says you agree to the terms here. You must have ticked that box to agree to these terms. As a user of any forum or web site I always look at the terms and conditions thoroughly and most definately the privacy policy and have sometimes disagreed with them for whatever reason and chosen not to continue. You say yourself that no one reads things right through but there are many others that do.

Having said that I cannot imagine users on here altering images in any other way other than for the purpose of helping others. I think this is a very useful facility to have and I myself have benefitted from this.

John

PS: Looks like Ian has seen this already.

Last edited by Scapula Memory; 23rd January 2008 at 10:28 AM. Reason: PS remark
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