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Bikie John 11th December 2017 10:10 AM

Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
While looking for something else I stumbled across this series on BBC Radio 4 called "Snapshots":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09hn4r7

Apparently there are 4 episodes and each one follows a professional photographer on a shoot. I've not had a chance to listen to any yet so I have no idea whether it is interesting or not, but it certainly looks like a interesting idea.

The first two are available for catch-up from the link above - and, unlike television programmes, I think they may be available outside the UK.

John

Olybirder 11th December 2017 10:22 AM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
An interesting find John. However I have just had a look at the two galleries on the link and I just don't 'get' the photos in them from professional photographers. Perhaps all is explained in the radio programmes.

Ron

Rocknroll59 11th December 2017 10:36 AM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Just had a quick look myself, not listened yet, but unimpressed by the pictures in the gallery....professional photographer?? I would not be impressed if I took those, not sure what he/they are trying to achieve there...:rolleyes:

Peter

OM USer 11th December 2017 11:26 AM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
There are better pictures on this forum. May I be so bold as to suggest that all pictures on this forum are better.

Rocknroll59 11th December 2017 12:17 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Yes much better pics on here......mine excluded ;)

Peter

shenstone 11th December 2017 01:00 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
I have to agree re the quality of the photographs

I was walking around some stalls at a local Christmas fair at the weekend and nosed into a couple of photo stalls. One I admired, I could see real skill and nicely executed printing and mounting, the other well let me say I could have done as well on the photography and certainly displayed them better for sale.

So have been thinking about what makes a "professional photographer" and I have come to the conclusion that >90% of it is just having the confidence to put your work for sale and declare yourself as such. In that I do not demean the high number of very capable people out there doing an excellent job, they need to have that confidence as well but you can go a long way with one, but not the other

Regards
Andy

Wee man 11th December 2017 01:29 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Thanks OM I will take your comment as an early Christmas present. John look again then look at yours, OM is right.

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Rocknroll59 11th December 2017 03:56 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
I agree Andy, I've nosed around a few fairs and shops showing 'Pro' photos and some are very good, some not so...so like all trades and professions you can call yourself what you like, this guy may be great friends with the radio producer, it has happened before, not necessarily the best at the job just in the right place at the right time. My trade is the same people spring up all the time 'Experts' they call themselves..well maybe, but are you time served??

Pete :D

Bikie John 13th December 2017 05:34 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Undeterred by this wave of negativity I decided to listen to an episode before forming an opinion. I know that's not a very 2017 way of doing things, but in my defence I was born a long time before 2017.

I chose the second episode, with Mark Neville at Port Talbot club, and it was reasonably interesting. There is rather too much fluff for my personal taste, I think it would have made a very nice 15 minute programme which R4 do, sometimes very successfully, on weekday lunchtimes. But overall it was a good listen. Mark Neville talks about his motivations and how he interacts with his subjects, and the programme includes quite a lot of bits of him talking to them. He also made a rather pertinent comment about who buys photo books and where they end up.

I found it interesting enough to try to make time to catch the other episodes before they disappear.

John

MJ224 13th December 2017 07:19 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnheatingman (Post 434902)
I suppose anyone who has sold photos and has no other visible form of full time employment could class themselves as a Pro Photographer. Someone on benefits who attends car boots and fairs and sells a few images is therefore a Pro Photographer, and like a lot in the acting profession, would tell you, if asked that they were between assignments at the moment. :D

John

I would say a Professional" photographer is someone who earns a living at photography, not just selling the odd photo.

I sold or got paid for a 30 second film clip recently, but would hesitate to call myself a professional film maker.......*chr

(But I joke so..............*chr)

shenstone 13th December 2017 07:31 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikie John (Post 435095)

I found it interesting enough to try to make time to catch the other episodes before they disappear.

John

thanks john

I admit to being very busy and thought I would look, but not listen, I will take your advice

Regards
Andy

iso 16th December 2017 06:32 PM

Re: Programme on BBC Radio 4
 
To my mind the term 'Professional', as in Professional Photographer, or Professional Footballer, smacks of a self serving phrase. Opera Singers, Doctors, Bin Men, do not find they need to use it.


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