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pdk42 19th May 2017 10:07 PM

Tesni Ward Workshop - some thoughts (image heavy)
As some of you know, I went along earlier this week to Tesni Ward's "Coastal Birds" workshop. I thought some of you might be interested in my experiences and thoughts.

1) The workshop

Tesni charges 100 for the workshop and I thought it was good value for money since I got to spend a day with a professional wildlife photographer and shared the experience with only two other people. It's the first time I've been on a workshop and TBH I'm usually the over-confident type who tries first to do things without help! So why take a workshop this time?

Well, I've been a photographer on and off for over forty years but have never really tried wildlife photography in any serious way. Unlike the landscapes and travel stuff I usually do, wildlife is elusive, moves a lot, can be too far away and above all, can be challenging to make images from that are original and inspiring. Mix in the need for excellent technique and the equipment to match and it's easy to understand why it's one of the most demanding of photographic genres. As such, I admired others' images but decided it wasn't for me.

At The Photography Show in March I listened to Tes's talk on the Olympus stand and I was impressed both with her images, which I think are full of character and emotion, and with her down-to-earth approach to her work. So, I decided to go on one of her workshops to see if I could emulate at least some of that magic. I came away with a dozen or so images that I'm very pleased with and gained enough basic knowledge to step out on my own to learn more if I decide to. Tes knows her wildlife, where to find it, and most of all how to use a camera to capture it.

Anyhow - here is a shot of the group, sans moi. JohnGG is on the left.


2) The Venue

The venue was the RSPB site at Bempton Cliffs in Yorkshire. I'm sure the birders amongst you are more than aware of it. It's easily accessible and pretty popular with visitors. However, it's even more popular with sea birds, so it's ideal to take the first steps on bird photography - both static and in-flight. Even if you don't fancy a workshop, just a visit there is well worthwhile. The coastal scenery is also very pretty - especially around Flamborough Head which has a nice lighthouse and some interesting cliff features. The weather was not great but I got a few scenic shots anyhow:

Flamborough Head by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

3) The Birds

Bempton is rich in Gannets, Guillemots, Razorbills, Fulmars and Kittywakes with the occasional Puffin, Jackdaw and other birds thrown in. I really liked the Gannets. They are very beautiful birds with quite stunning eyes and beaks. Their behaviour is interesting too - especially the "billing" antics between mating pairs. They mate monogamously for life.

Gannet Love by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

Heads Up by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

I'd never seen a Puffin before so it was quite exciting to see some. There weren't many to be seen but I did manage to get some shots, including this one of a bird stretching its wings that I really like.

I can Fly! by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

3) Equipment

I took my E-M1ii and managed to snag a 300mm f4 on the Olympus "Test and Wow" programme. I was absolutely delighted with the performance and the results from this combination. I took my 50-200 non-SWD plus TC but in the end didn't use it - the allure of the 300mm was too strong!

The camera performed faultlessly. I used a mix of S-AF and C-AF. S-AF for the static shots using back-button focus and C-AF for in-flight shots with shutter-button focus. This is how I had set my camera up anyhow but it was good to hear Tes recommending exactly the same thing. I have setup the rear lever to switch between these two modes which is very fast and intuitive. It's a nice feature.

Both focus modes worked faultlessly. I was expecting S-AF to be just fine, but I hadn't really used C-AF so I was interested to see how it worked with birds in flight. Now, I'm no expert in BIF nor in fancy panning etc, but I managed to get a success rate of greater than 50% without too much trying. Given the speed of movement of the birds and my inexperience I was very pleased with this. With some help from Tes, this is how I setup the camera for BIF:

- C-AF without tracking
- 9-box focus area - usually in the centre, but sometimes off-set
- AF Scanner - Mode 2
- C-AF Lock - 0
- AF on shutter button
- Electronic shutter at 18fps (Tes recommended a lower rate and when it came time to process the shots I can understand why!)

The technique was basically to keep the subject in the focus area and so long as I did this the camera generally nailed the focus. Focus acquisition and re-acquisition if I lost the subject was fast. Clearly I don't have experience of other systems with BIF, but I would think that the E-M1ii would be more than adequate for birding needs. Here are few examples. They are pin sharp viewed at 100%:

Fulmar in Flight by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

Touchdown by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

The last shot (Touchdown) I'm especially pleased with since I shot a sequence of about 30 shots as the bird approached and every single one was perfectly focused. Impressive!

For static shots as I said I used S-AF and back-button focus with a single focus point. It works superbly. I generally moved the focus box and focused using the final composition rather than focus/recompose which Tes recommended. I have got accustomed to using the rear screen as an AF targeting pad and I find it fast and intuitive to move the focus point so focus/recompose isn't really necessary. It perhaps makes little difference on birding shots when the subject is a good distance away, but for portraits etc focus/recompose can result in focus errors.

I was also mightily impressed with the camera's ISO performance. For the BIF shots I wanted to keep the shutter speed high and so often cranked the ISO up taking many at ISO 1000-1600. I also took a few shots using John's Panasonic 100-400 at the end of the day and with its smaller max aperture I was shooting at ISO 3200. In all cases the images came out very cleanly. I was surprised at this since I've taken lots of shots in dim interior light at these sort of ISOs and whilst they are fine at smaller magnifications, peering at 100% things get ugly. Not so with these shots. I'm guessing it's the better outdoor light to some degree and maybe also the superior optics. Either way, I'd be very happy shooting at ISO 3200 so long as there's not too much cropping later.

Battery performance is pretty good too. I took about 3000 photographs during the day and flattened two batteries. I'm pretty pleased with that.

As to the lens - well, the 300/4 is just superb. I can't praise it enough. It's crazy sharp with stunning resolution. Even 100% crops look absolutely amazing. This shot is a 1300 x 1300 crop from the full frame and yet it's as sharp as many an uncropped shot I've taken:

Nest Building by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

Not only that, but:

- IS, along with the body IBIS delivers jaw-dropping hand-holdability. I took all my shots hand-held and had to remind myself often that I was using a 600mm equiv lens. For static shots I often used speeds as low as 1/125s and never once saw even a hint of camera shake.

- For a 600mm equiv f4 lens it really quite small and light. I held it pretty much all day and it really wasn't a problem.

- It's sharp at f4 and doesn't really change much as you stop down. Shooting 600mm equiv at f4 with a lens that's compact and easy to hand-hold is quite a game-changer for this sort of photography.

- It's beautifully built - weather-proof and robust and I'm sure capable of taking the knocks. In fact, Tes's kit looks like it's been bashed about a bit as I guess any working professional's kit would be!

Thinking about it afterwards, if there is a single argument for how u43 can deliver massive benefits over other systems then this lens is it. The other student, Gary, had a Fuji XT2 and the Fuji 200-400 lens. I held the camera and it's notably bigger and heavier than the Olympus combo. Picking any Canikon or Sony would only make things bigger. If I were shooting wildlife professionally then the Olympus would be my choice. At a shade over 2k, the Olympus lens is also great value for money considering its optical quality and capabilities. Consider me wowed!

As an example of the pure resolving power of the lens, here is a link to a Flickr image at high resolution that demonstrates just how good it is:


Portrait of a Gannet by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

Finally, I'll just add a few comments about the Panasonic 100-400. John and I swapped lenses for a half hour at the end of the day so I didn't get a lot of time with it, but I did form a few impressions. Firstly, the 100-400 is a very nice looking and handling lens. John's copy had none of the zoom stiffness I've seen on other copies so maybe Panasonic have sorted it now. It also feels every bit as well made as the Olympus lens and was actually lighter and more compact. The zoom flexibility is nice, but curiously I didn't find the Olympus's fixed focal length at all limiting during the day. I had expected to be wanting to zoom out, but it wasn't an issue.

From an IQ point of view the 100-400 is really very, very good - but it's definitely got slightly less resolving power than the 300/4. I doubt I'd have noticed it without being able to do a direct comparison but when you do see images side-by-side it's clear that the Oly lens is just that little bit better. On top of that, the Panasonic lens is slower - more than a stop at 300mm and a stop and a half at 400mm. That makes a difference too since you'll be shooting at a higher ISO or longer shutter speed with the 100-400. The Panasonic lens's IS is very good, at least as good as on the Olympus, but of course because of incompatibilities between the Sync IS features from the two manufacturers, the Panasonic's IS will not work in concert with the E-M1ii's IBIS. Ultimately this means that the Oly/Oly combo beats the Panasonic/Oly one in IS effectiveness.

Net, net then - if I were going for a lens in this range than I'd go for the Oly. I'm not knocking the Panasonic lens and TBH the flexibility of the zoom is still a massive draw, but I still feel the Oly lens is just that bit special. If I were looking for an airshow lens, then the decision would be different. In any case, the Panasonic can deliver great images:


5) Is it for me?

Well, the jury is still out. As much as I like the images I took I feel that they lack any real originality. Anyone with the right kit could have taken them with only a little guidance. I appreciate that these birds are easily accessible and that more "exotic" animals would pose more of a challenge. But would the more exotic animals produce any more artistic or worthwhile images? Is the challenge of finding them and photographing them enough? Does it make it better art if the animal is rare? I doubt there are many birds with more aesthetically pleasing eyes than gannets. Maybe the most "original" shot I took during the day was this one. David M (who knows a bit about this sort of thing ;)) seems to like it anyhow! TBH, it was the water on the bird's head which appealed to me:

Watching the Rain by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

I'd probably get more out of furry animals rather than birds (I'd particularly like to photograph some hares) but the same basic question raises itself in my mind. I'm not saying I won't do some more - especially since I can see that the activity of finding and photographing the animals is in itself a worthwhile thing to do, and it certainly gets you out and about - but right now I'm not enthusing about it in a big way. Curiously I felt the same about studio/beauty shots - I could get good shots with the right technique and a little guidance but I didn't feel they were different to 1000s of others I'd seen.

Now I appreciate that landscapes could have the same criticism levelled at them (or any genre for that matter), but I feel there are more variables in landscape photography and there is more scope for "seeing" the right composition or finding the right angle/lighting etc. It's a personal view I know, but that's what makes things interesting - right?

So, I'm not going to rush out and buy a 300/4 right away. I might try to find some hares or such like and use my 50-200 and see where that takes me.

Anyhow, that's about it. If you've got this far, thanks for sticking with it. There are a few more shots from the day in a Flickr album here:


Olybirder 19th May 2017 10:34 PM

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An excellent and very thorough report Paul. It sounds as if you had a great day, despite the weather. All your images are superb but I especially like the cute Pufffin. The E-M1 Mark II and 300 F4 sounds like a great combination but, unfortunately, I don't think my kidneys are worth a lot these days and I am a bit too old to take up bank robbery


David M 19th May 2017 10:46 PM

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I notice that you didn't include the Razorbill looking up in this thread. That was the stand out for me.

pdk42 19th May 2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David M (Post 414850)
I notice that you didn't include the Razorbill looking up in this thread. That was the stand out for me.

Hi David - thanks for the tip. I'll go back and add it now...

David M 19th May 2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 414851)
Hi David - thanks for the tip. I'll go back and add it now...

Actually, looking at it again, the rain drops add to the shot.

pdk42 19th May 2017 11:32 PM

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I've added a few notes on the 100-400 too.

Ricoh 19th May 2017 11:55 PM

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When it comes to photography I'm of a similar mind. If I visualise a scene, let's say a landscape, I think to myself is this an original visualisation, or has it been done a million times before, and probably better. I convince myself the latter, recap the lens and move on.
I'm reading a good book at the moment on pre visualisation, waiting for the light, planning ahead. I have no hope of making a good photo by just walking with my camera.

Wee man 20th May 2017 07:29 AM

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A very good if a wallet worrying report. You seemed to have a super day at a great site. Excellent shots and one of the few times I have actually gone to look at more shots on flicker.
Good references​ to the two wish list lenses I am considering and from a person who normally shoots landscape by choice.
You have filled some gaps in decision making.
Have to ask did you use your favourite flippy out screen during the day?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the day.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Grumpy Hec 20th May 2017 07:35 AM

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A very interesting post Paul. Ever thought about doing a blog?

It seems you had an excellent day trying something new both in terms of genre and lens. I have done the same of late via workshops and like you found it interesting and a good way of picking up new ideas and inspiration.

Your images are excellent and show what some informed guidance can do to someone who has good photography skills already.

The thoughts on bird/nature photography I echo entirely. I see a lot of nature in the club arena and rarely does it trigger any emotion in me. There was one shot in my club this season which did but that was more from the originality and artistic point of view rather than the image of the bird.

To be honest if I see another kingfisher with fish or white tailed eagle with catch I may well have a violent reaction even allowing for the technical excellence in many cases. That is of course a very personal view which many others will simply not agree with which is of course fair enough. We all have our preferences.

An excellent post Paul. Thanks for that.


drmarkf 20th May 2017 08:59 AM

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Fantastic set, and a very helpful and thoughtful report.

I'm looking forward even more now to my Waterfowl day with Tesni on 8th August near Stoke on Trent (I believe there are still spaces available - see http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44800 ).

I agree about the tracking pad. I've only fairly recently started using it, for CAF for both birds and street shooting, and it's another transformative development in the way we can use the camera.

wornish 20th May 2017 09:15 AM

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Really nice set of images.

DavyG 20th May 2017 11:02 AM

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A very interesting and informative write up on your day with Tesni and the 300mm Paul.

You managed to produce some very nice images and as you mentioned, very sharp.

Like others, I particularly like your Razorbill image, it's different and original.

We've visited Bempton Cliffs around four times, the most recent being around two weeks ago, and I now find that I'm getting to know the area and the best places to see the different species however, it is difficult to stop myself photographing the Gannets.

I'll watch with interest to see if you follow up with the wildlife photography and the 300mm Pro, if you do, I'd recommend using the 300 to photograph Damselflies/Dragonflies as the lens gives a good working distance and can produce a very nice bokeh. It also works well for photographing Dragonflies in flight.

Thanks for taking the time to write your report, I enjoyed reading it.


Phill D 20th May 2017 07:50 PM

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Excellent images and a really good read. Nice one Paul.

Zedex10r 21st May 2017 03:20 PM

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Great report Paul, you got some lovely images. I think my favourite is the portrait of the Gannet I hope to be going to Bempton soon too.

slightlyblurry 28th May 2017 07:36 AM

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Thanks for your post and advice; sounds like you had a great time with Tseni.

I really enjoyed your images and has inspired me to try a bit harder with the birdies - feathered type of course !

I'm using a 40-150 f2.8 + 1.4 tc until Olympus bring out a similar lens to the PL 100 - 400 but hoping to make the investment when the time comes.

I'm now off to Titchfield Haven nature reserve to try my hand if the thunder storms stay away.

Many thanks


sapper 28th May 2017 08:26 AM

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Cracking shots Paul. Inspiring. Been there a couple of times, must go back again.

pdk42 28th May 2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sapper (Post 415584)
Cracking shots Paul. Inspiring. Been there a couple of times, must go back again.

Thanks Dave!

tomphotofx 1st June 2017 03:47 PM

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Thanks for posting these images Paul, I really enjoyed looking at them plus I hopped onto Flickr to see some more, good work indeed.



Munro 113 28th June 2017 09:58 PM

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Hi Paul
Lovely set of images.there, looks like you had a super time at Bempton.
With regards to the Olympus 300mm vs LUMIX 100-400mm, whilst you say the Oly is slightly better of the two, would you say it is 1000 better? The Oly is approaching twice the price of the Lumix so one would expect it to be better, the same applies to the 100-400mm vs either 100-300mkii & Oly 75-100. I suppose price & quality is all relative in that if you have loads of cash you would buy both 40-150 & 300mm pros at a mind blowing price and probably get better image quality (?) than the Lumix but how much better. No doubt someone like Tesni would get better images with the 100-400 kit than me with the Oly duo.
Sorry for rambling on.
Thanks for your sharing your super images and a very interesting report on your day with Tesni

pdk42 29th June 2017 05:41 AM

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I don't think the image quality/sharpness warrants a 1000 difference - in fact, I think they are actually pretty close. The biggest difference is that you're getting about a stop or so more light with the Olympus. That can make a big difference taking shots of fast moving subjects in less than ideal light.

OTOH, for many other use cases for a long lens, I think the Panasonic wins - simply because it's a zoom. Taking shots of aircraft for instance almost demands a zoom since their relative size can vary enormously as they approach and recede.

I think for wildlife the Olympus probably has the edge, but the Panasonic is a very good and would probably satisfy most people.

Ross the fiddler 26th July 2017 01:19 PM

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That was a great write up & of course the photos too. Thanks for this & details on settings etc too. I found this thread because of the last forum work Ian did which brought up all those unread posts again, & I'm glad it did. *yes


pdk42 26th July 2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross the fiddler (Post 422643)
That was a great write up & of course the photos too. Thanks for this & details on settings etc too. I found this thread because of the last forum work Ian did which brought up all those unread posts again, & I'm glad it did. *yes


It's a pleasure Ross. I did the same with your thread on PDAF calibration.

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