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Michael Sewell 6th December 2017 10:52 PM

Bridal Brochure Photography
 
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This was the first outing for the Elinchrom ELB400 in early spring 2016. This particular image was among the last to be shot on that day.

I wanted to ensure I could maximise the ambient light from both the wall light and the outside room, although I needed to add sufficient light so Sadie didn't have pools of black shadows from the wall light, as the light from the door didn't actually fall on her. So I needed to create the illusion the light on her face and lower dress came from the doorway.

I used a single ELB400 action head connected to the B port and firing through a honeycombed stripbox with an output of 1.0. (Equivalent to 12Ws)

It was placed frame right and alongside the door at maximum height and angled down towards Sadie. If you look closely at the shoes, you can make out the shadow direction, indicating the position of the head.

This is also where the image stabilisation of the Olympus E-M1 came into its own.

E-M1 1/30th sec ISO400 12-40mm f2.8 @f2.8

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I particularly liked the symmetry of this image, although it wasn't quite there on the day. The table was off centre and one of the lamps was almost centre on the table. After a bit of help from the hotel staff, and a bit of jiggery pokery with the lamps and cables, we managed to line it up.

Sadie took position and happens to glance across to my assistant as Martin made a comment. This was the resultant image.

It actually took three lights for this one, although again, I had to add the light very subtly. I had an ELB400 action head firing through a honeycombed stripbox frame left. It was connected to the B port and firing at 0.8. (About 10Ws)

A second ELB400 action head and stripbox with honeycomb was placed frame right, and again at 0.8 output via the B port. Both of these heads were in alignment with Sadie, and the amount of light put out was just enough to bring up the detail in the folds of the dress.

The main light was a third ELB400 action head firing through a 80x80cm folding softbox at a height of six feet and angled down towards Sadie's midriff. This ensured the light spill did not bring up the detail on the wall above Sadie, ensuring we maintained the atmospheric feel to the ambience.

The main light was also connected to the B port, and fired at an output of 1.6 (About 19Ws)

E-M1 1/50th sec ISO400 12-40mm f2.8 @f4.5

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This particular image was probably the most difficult of all three. Not from a lighting aspect, but purely down to the fact it's a cosy little area in the bar. Access is from one side, which is where I shot from, and it's really quite narrow.

This was basically shot with a single ELB400 action head firing through a 80x80cm folding softbox. I had to stand it on a dwarf wall alongside a hotel lamp, as there was no way it could get further into the room without fouling the frame. Output was kept to 0.7 from the B port.

And that's basically it!

E-M1 1/13th sec ISO400 12-40mm f2.18 @f4.5

Pistnbroke 7th December 2017 08:54 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
left hand in all photos shows no wedding ring ......7Ps applies

Michael Sewell 7th December 2017 09:28 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistnbroke (Post 434603)
left hand in all photos shows no wedding ring ......7Ps applies

LMAO

Good catch

These images have been around for 18 months now, and you're the first to spot it.

*chr

Although, to be fair, there's only the first image that gives it away

Pistnbroke 7th December 2017 09:35 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Well Michael perhaps prospective brides did not look at it ..keeping the left hand free in wedding pics (groom holding her right hand) leaves the left hand free to feature the ring.
Personally the dress looks Hired ,tired and heavy and a real bride would have given more attention to the bra or not for support.
Great useful information on the lighting.

Michael Sewell 7th December 2017 09:40 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistnbroke (Post 434609)
Well Michael perhaps prospective brides did not look at it ..keeping the left hand free in wedding pics (groom holding her right hand) leaves the left hand free to feature the ring.
Personally the dress looks Hired ,tired and heavy and a real bride would have given more attention to the bra or not for support.
Great useful information on the lighting.

Pretty much agree on all counts.
Dresses will always be off the peg for a bridal brochure shoot, as that's the way it goes.

Pistnbroke 7th December 2017 09:49 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Its nice to have a conversation with another wedding photographer without it all going nasty and bitter ....I think about 50% of my brides fall into the wedding dress situation described.

Michael Sewell 7th December 2017 09:58 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistnbroke (Post 434612)
Its nice to have a conversation with another wedding photographer without it all going nasty and bitter ....I think about 50% of my brides fall into the wedding dress situation described.


I think I must get your other 50% LOL

I think some of it may be down to an increasing number of brides leaving the dress to the last minute, and buying off the peg. I've definitely noticed couples hanging onto their cash as long as possible in the current financial climate, and it does seem to be linked to the likes of poorer fitting dresses, less guests overall, more guests in the evening and fewer during the day, cheaper venues, more "image only" bookings etc etc

I think it's an indicator of our current situation with Brexit and other uncertainties at the moment

OM USer 7th December 2017 12:29 PM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Thanks Michael.

pdk42 7th December 2017 03:24 PM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
I see Pistnbroke's manners haven't improved much. Why be so openly critical?

At least Michael posts his images, together with informative info on how he achieved the lighting. Still not seen a single image from Pistnbroke.

Michael Sewell 7th December 2017 08:17 PM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 434635)
I see Pistnbroke's manners haven't improved much. Why be so openly critical?

At least Michael posts his images, together with informative info on how he achieved the lighting. Still not seen a single image from Pistnbroke.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so long as we realise it's valid from one viewpoint.

It's all good *chr

pdk42 7th December 2017 09:37 PM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Sewell (Post 434646)
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so long as we realise it's valid from one viewpoint.

It's all good *chr

You're too gracious Michael. You post your images and you take the time and trouble to explain how you achieved them. If someone's mastery of photography is such that they know it all already then IMHO it's best to say nothing than to carp and criticise. This wasn't posted in the "Looking for Improvement" forum.

Michael Sewell 7th December 2017 10:24 PM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 434648)
You're too gracious Michael. You post your images and you take the time and trouble to explain how you achieved them. If someone's mastery of photography is such that they know it all already then IMHO it's best to say nothing than to carp and criticise. This wasn't posted in the "Looking for Improvement" forum.

If I were to be brutally honest, I would say Pistnbroke (I can only apologise for not knowing his name) has a valid point regarding the wedding ring, although I dispute the lack of a wedding ring is visible or relevant in the 2nd and 3rd pictures. I agree, it was an oversight on my part.
However, the wedding bookings for that hotel increased by a noticeable margin when the images were used, so I don't think the potential brides noticed, or simply didn't care.
:cool:

MJ224 8th January 2018 08:45 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
I would have thought a bride to be was the aim of the photos, not an actual wedded one. Thus no wedding ring is entirely fitting for these photos. IMHO

Lady could have upped her upper bits, but as said the point off the article is a Lighting Tut.

Thanks Michael,...................*chr

Spoken as a bird photographer (relevant may be!!)

Michael Sewell 8th January 2018 09:01 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ224 (Post 436919)
Spoken as a bird photographer (relevant may be!!)

I love this.....

*laugh

Phill D 8th January 2018 09:30 AM

Re: Bridal Brochure Photography
 
Michael I'm sure with images like this you wont be short of work. I'm never going to take on weddings but your excellent and very generous tutorial is a great help for the odd occasion I might just shoot a person. I have one really trivial question, were these shots hand held or did you use a tripod?


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