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Dave in Wales 21st May 2018 05:53 AM

Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy?
 
When moving the focus point is the display of all the AF rectangles driving you crazy as well?

There's a thread on another forum where a guy says just that.
https://www.mu-43.com/threads/help-a...e-crazy.98337/

He says AF grid but he means AF rectangles.

I've never thought about it before but after reading it, I now find them increasingly annoying as well.

It would be nice to have the option to switch them all off and just show the rectangle one is moving...IMHO

Growltiger 21st May 2018 07:48 AM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
I like them. They help me see where the focus point is in relation to where I can put it, and the whole frame.

MikeOxon 21st May 2018 08:43 AM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
I'm with Growltiger on this one. I take macro shots and like to see all my options when choosing the best focus point.

Ricoh 21st May 2018 09:48 AM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
This experience is a world away from composing using a ground glass screen. Less is definitely more in photography, not only with regard to composition, I would say. The craft and the vision of photography most definitely need to converge.

MikeOxon 21st May 2018 10:15 AM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 447496)
This experience is a world away from composing using a ground glass screen. ..............

I regard all these additional features (AF points, under/over exposure indications, etc.) as 'aids' and, when it comes to the actual composition of the photo then nothing is better than a clean screen - it's easy to turn all the extraneous stuff 'off' when not needed.

For composition, it's good to connect the camera to a laptop with a high-resolution screen, where it can be studied at leisure.

Ricoh 21st May 2018 11:43 AM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeOxon (Post 447497)
I regard all these additional features (AF points, under/over exposure indications, etc.) as 'aids' and, when it comes to the actual composition of the photo then nothing is better than a clean screen - it's easy to turn all the extraneous stuff 'off' when not needed.

For composition, it's good to connect the camera to a laptop with a high-resolution screen, where it can be studied at leisure.

Well, we must agree to disagree.

Concerning "under/over exposure indicators" w.r.t. what exactly? Are you talking with reference to the the silicon brain, the 18% scenic average, or artistic preference. And how well calibrated is the rear LCD if one is trying to make artistic judgement? In truth all of this should be conducted inside the photographer's head. IMO the act of abdicating to a silicon chip is not the way to proceed if the purpose is to improve one's photography.

Walti 21st May 2018 12:12 PM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quite simply - no.

I find the ability to use the camera functions as an aid to taking a photograph part of why I bought the camera. If I'd wanted something different I'd have bought something different.

"A Nikon does x"
"A Canon does y"
"A Sony does z"

Well, if x, y and z are so important buy the camera that offers them.
The Olympus does it the Olympus way, like it, or use something else, its not as if there isn't a choice.

As has been said the camera isn't taking the photo - you are - you can choose to use the aids or ignore them, or switch them all off and use it manually.

Growltiger 21st May 2018 02:15 PM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeOxon (Post 447497)
I regard all these additional features (AF points, under/over exposure indications, etc.) as 'aids' and, when it comes to the actual composition of the photo then nothing is better than a clean screen - it's easy to turn all the extraneous stuff 'off' when not needed.

For composition, it's good to connect the camera to a laptop with a high-resolution screen, where it can be studied at leisure.


There is a misunderstanding here. The rectangles being talked about are not visible when composing the photo. They vanish except when adjusting the focus point. You may be thinking of the grid.

MJ224 21st May 2018 02:20 PM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
If we are talking of the same think, I get a little irritated when using the back button focus (AEL Button) and my thumb accidentally touches the "up" button. and these little rectangles flood the screen. Easily got rid of by touching the shutter button......*chr

MikeOxon 21st May 2018 02:30 PM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 447502)
Well, we must agree to disagree......

It seems so - and to thrash this matter out would go far beyond the scope of this thread.

Remember, though, that any camera does not respond in the same way as the eye/brain combination. The camera sensor has physical limitations to the max and min intensities to which it can respond. I use the highlight/shadows indicators to tell me when (and where on the image) I am approaching these limits.

Our brains are far too adaptive to varying light levels to indicate reliably exactly when a silicon sensor will overload *chr

MikeOxon 21st May 2018 02:32 PM

Re: Are all the AF rectangles driving you crazy too?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Growltiger (Post 447508)
There is a misunderstanding here. The rectangles being talked about are not visible when composing the photo. They vanish except when adjusting the focus point. You may be thinking of the grid.

I agree regarding the visibility of the focus points.

I assumed that the original post didn't like to see all the rectangles at once, when adjusting the focus point, whereas I find it quite useful.


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