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pandora 18th April 2017 10:31 AM

Uk snap election
 
We saw Theresa May announce your snap election scheduled for June 8.

I hope she will be comfortably returned as your PM.

I see her as a strong, articulate and intelligent leader.

I will be interested to hear your views.

Shaw 18th April 2017 10:40 AM

Re: Uk snap election
 
Certainly not my view!

Ricoh 18th April 2017 10:52 AM

Re: Uk snap election
 
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Originally Posted by pandora (Post 412145)
We saw Theresa May announce your snap election scheduled for June 8.

I hope she will be comfortably returned as your PM.

I see her as a strong, articulate and impressive leader.

I will be interested to hear your views.

Like you Mark, I hope to see her and the Conservative party returned with a thumping big majority. Theresa May is one of the best PM's in modern time.

Naughty Nigel 18th April 2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 412150)
Like you Mark, I hope to see her and the Conservative party returned with a thumping big majority. Theresa May is one of the best PM's in modern time.

Well, right now the alternative is unthinkable.

Worse still, Tony Blair might try to recruit disaffected Labour MP's to re-launch New Labour. :eek:

benvendetta 18th April 2017 11:25 AM

Re: Uk snap election
 
The danger is that it could backfire on this woman!

Naughty Nigel 18th April 2017 11:30 AM

Re: Uk snap election
 
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Originally Posted by benvendetta (Post 412162)
The danger is that it could backfire on this woman!

It could indeed, but right now she has an impossible job to do, so what choice did she have?

sapper 18th April 2017 11:38 AM

Re: Uk snap election
 
She has a majority already, and said that she would not call an election, but like Cameron, she cannot be trusted to keep her word.

wornish 18th April 2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sapper (Post 412166)
She has a majority already, and said that she would not call an election, but like Cameron, she cannot be trusted to keep her word.

Circumstances change. She has made a decision and thats good in my mind. I want a PM who doesn't blindly stick to some policy even when its crystal clear things need to change.

Jim Ford 18th April 2017 01:01 PM

Re: Uk snap election
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pandora (Post 412145)
I see her as a strong, articulate and intelligent leader.

I guess your vision isn't so clear viewed from 9000+ miles away!

Jim

Jim Ford 18th April 2017 01:05 PM

Re: Uk snap election
 
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Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 412150)
Like you Mark, I hope to see her and the Conservative party returned with a thumping big majority. Theresa May is one of the best PM's in modern time.

Naked opportunism; acting only in the interest of her party, with the view to placing the Tories even further to the right!

I'm beginning to wonder whether she's turning out to be as bad as the despised Thatcher!

Jim

jdal 18th April 2017 01:05 PM

Re: Uk snap election
 
I really wouldn't allow political threads like this on here. The country has never been so divided and it will lead to fallings out.

So here goes. Those who think she and her party are doing a good job should take a peek at the Balance of Payments, the deficit, the health service, food banks etc etc. Grammar schools?? State visit for Donald Trump? Good grief. This and it's predecessor have been the worst governments in my memory.

The country's a laughing stock. My children are lucky enough to be able to take out Irish Citizenship, which they are doing/have done. I wish I could.

over and out.

IPWheatley 18th April 2017 01:25 PM

Re: Uk snap election
 
With jdal all the way on this. If she gets in as seems certain, god help us all. The Brexit vote showed us what we are deep down, a heathen, racist lot and I fear for the working class of this country. Jdal is also possibly right on this in saying that this is maybe not the place to be discussing such issues, it was after all started by someone who will not be affected by the outcome like the rest of us. Maybe one for the Administrators to consider. leave it with you. IW.

Zuiko 18th April 2017 01:29 PM

Re: Uk snap election
 
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Originally Posted by jdal (Post 412176)
I really wouldn't allow political threads like this on here. The country has never been so divided and it will lead to fallings out.

This is a big danger. I like to encourage sensible and respectful debate but do wonder if this is possible in the post referendum climate. Could all members wishing to comment please do so without bad feeling or personal attacks upon those with opposing views. I will be watching closely and will step in if it becomes necessary.

Naughty Nigel 18th April 2017 02:00 PM

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Whatever our political views the country is in limbo. Theresa May is having to steer the UK through a BREXIT that she and millions of others didn't want but now has little choice in.

I didn't want BREXIT, but if HM Government pulled the plug on BREXIT now there would be anarchy, whilst any future referendum or election would be seriously tainted. It is all very well using the Courts and the Lords to scupper BREXIT, but none of that will change public opinion on the matter.

Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, etc. should be holding the government to account, but Labour in particular are in such disarray that they have become a laughing stock and are resorting to wrecking motions and other subterfuge to scupper everything the government is trying to do.

Nicola Sturgeon has little real interest in Westminster. She has her own agenda, and will not rest until she gets Scottish Independence, regardless of what the Scots want.

Meanwhile, Jean Claude Junker is now showing his true colours by making it clear that the UK was only allowed membership of the UE under duress, and will be punished for leaving.

Right now I don't' trust ANY of them further than I could throw them, but I don't see that Theresa May had much option but to call an election in the circumstances that have been created since the BREXIT Referendum.

On the subject of food banks, I happen to live in President Blair's former socialist utopia, and I can assure readers that food banks were a necessity for many in this area during the Blair/Brown years, but were kept very quiet! It is only since the 2010 coalition that it has suited Labour activists and others to use foodbanks as propaganda against the government.

On the subject of Education, Education, Education, whilst Blair was warmongering around the world our local secondary school was in such a poor state that we and anyone else who was able sent their children to church or independent schools outside of the area.

Things were not quite as rosy under Labour as some now like to think.

I am not convinced by Theresa May, but I do feel she might have done a better job than 'Call me Dave' and his sidekick had she been given the top job in 2010.

jdal 18th April 2017 02:29 PM

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I agree that there was a lot wrong with that government. They were not socialis, they were neoliberals like Thatcher. The Iraq war & cosying up to Bush were unforgivable, and their failure to regulate the financial sector properly was a cop-out, although it probably wouldn't have stopped the crash.
However, lest we forget, 50 things that happened, some of which you may say were nowt to do with Labour. And some are out of date, the list was put together in 2010 as part of the debate over that election. EDIT Even older!! And obviously biased, but delete 2/3 of them and you still have a lot:
1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s (yes, I know, even lower now).
2. Low mortgage rates.
3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
9. Employment is at its highest level ever.
10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
11. 85,000 more nurses.
12. 32,000 more doctors.
13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
19. Restored city-wide government to London.
20. Record number of students in higher education.
21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
35. Banned fox hunting.
36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
37. Free TV licences for over-75s.
38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
43. Free eye test for over 60s.
44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.
46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.


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