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drmarkf 17th January 2017 11:49 AM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 404145)
Composing with both eyes open, does that ring a bell with anyone? :)

Yes, of course I agree!
Trouble is, I'm very left-eye dominant, and seeing the whole scene via my left eye while applying my right to a left-side-of-the-body VF isn't an option. I have tried.

Good RFs allow you to see at least some of the developing scene around the image, but this is one reason I've switched largely to using flip screens (looking down, like with a TLR) for street - I've taught myself to take in a wider view in front of me, and it's possible to have quick, regular glances up without affecting the aim of the camera.

Ricoh 17th January 2017 12:41 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
And there was me agreeing with Hamish Gill about the virtues of an uncomplicated camera. However, a weather resilient A7 with high ISO capability would be a 'killer' camera, one I'd find hard to resist.
I don't know how the wider market would respond to the idea of having fewer buttons and knobs on a camera (less is more the way I see it) and making the camera configurable via a laptop (I mean any external computer running a set-up programme). That way you could make the ergonomics clean, whilst allowing the 'players' to play with the settings rather than actually take pictures.

pdk42 17th January 2017 02:27 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
It seems that Nicholas Goodden has swapped to Sony totally and is now bad mouthing Olympus:



https://www.nicholasgooddenphotograp...ro-four-thirds

drmarkf 17th January 2017 02:51 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42 (Post 404184)
It seems that Nicholas Goodden has swapped to Sony totally and is now bad mouthing Olympus:



https://www.nicholasgooddenphotograp...ro-four-thirds

Well, good luck to him. There are plenty of people doing that after moving between brands in all directions and what's so special about him, eh!

drmarkf 17th January 2017 02:56 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
By the way, he implies in that post that he's had serious issues with Olympus for ages that he hasn't mentioned publicly. What does that say about his integrity and why should we now believe what he says about Sony?

Honestly, trolling about gear is so mindlessly boring!

Phill D 17th January 2017 04:30 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Doesn't sound like a very professional attitude to me. Surely someone who is trusted to be an Olympus ambassador should have lengthy discussions with Olympus first and only after failing to get satisfaction then move systems. I fail to see why even at that point there is the need to bad mouth your previous supporter (sponsor?) unless it's just to stir up notoriety on the internet at Olympus's expense. As I said not a very professional thing to do in my book.

Crazy Dave 17th January 2017 05:14 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
I followed the link and then proceeded to here.

https://www.nicholasgooddenphotograp...eet-portraits/

Not impressed.

David

pdk42 17th January 2017 05:37 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Dave (Post 404197)
I followed the link and then proceeded to here.

https://www.nicholasgooddenphotograp...eet-portraits/

Not impressed.

David

Obviously shots taken with Olympus gear! I liked them actually.

Ricoh 17th January 2017 06:42 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Irrespective of camera, the images are quite amateurish in my opinion. The photographer has not considered adequately the distracting background. This would be acceptable to a degree for candid unposed shots, but not the case here, these were clearly posed and therefore should be of a higher standard.

iso 17th January 2017 06:44 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Ricoh - you are surrounded - douse the camp fire and steal away into the night. Away from the buzz words, away from techno, away from camera brain surgeons, until you find 'a good shot' :)

Ricoh 17th January 2017 06:46 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Haven't a clue what you're talking about ISO.

PS I've just tried Google translate, but it just came back with a load of question marks!!!

iso 17th January 2017 06:56 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 404145)
Composing with both eyes open, does that ring a bell with anyone? :)
And with a fully manual camera, only the operator to blame if things get screwed up.
When I first used the RF, I thought what the hell have I done, a big mistake came to mind. For one thing I had to focus then guess or estimate the depth of field, plus sort the exposure. It meant relearning all I had forgotten having used automatic cameras for too long. But now, I absolutely love the range finder.

On the other hand mirrorless has a lot to offer, and I could be tempted by the Sony I've just read about. My elderly u4/3 kit suffers when ISO is dialled-up, but the A7Rii seems to be the ultimate camera for noiseless digital. It begs the question, is there any need for the MkIII other than to invigorate the market to generate more sales.

AH - I picked up an earlier Post - Just thought the techo's were taking over:rolleyes:

Ricoh 17th January 2017 07:12 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Ah, I see.

iso 17th January 2017 07:15 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricoh (Post 404208)
Ah, I see.

Hopefully -

MJ224 17th January 2017 08:02 PM

Re: The lure of the uncomplicated camera
 
Complicated cameras are as good as you want or need.

I NEED;

Autofocus (old eyes)
Auto ISO. (Not always but most of the time)
Aperture priority/auto exposure
Stability settings for longer exposure.
Digital ability, to instantly see results

Rest of the bells and whistles are just variations on those themes.

My personal opinion is that the my EM1 is over complicated, but what it does is really good.


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