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Ian
21st June 2010, 02:42 PM
Here are a dozen shots I've uploaded - click on each one to go to the gallery where there more background and technical info:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191489.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24798)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191494.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24799)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191502.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24800)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191509.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24801)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191512.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24802)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191593.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24803)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191613.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24804)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191658.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24805)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191699.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24806)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191736.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24807)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191737.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24808)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/984/P6191751.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/24809)

All shot in RAW and processed in Lightroom 3.

I'm having a problem with my monitor at the moment - what I see in IE is different to what I see in Lightroom. The monitor is calibrated but there is a colour shift when viewing in applications, like IE, where there is no colour management support. If you can tell me if the colour looks odd in any of these, I'd be very grateful.

Ian

BobS
21st June 2010, 05:34 PM
Looks fine to me unless the ice-cream in 2 was a strawberry flavoured one.:)

Ian
21st June 2010, 05:42 PM
Thanks Bob - it seems OK in profile aware applications liike Photoshop, Lightroom and Firefox (with colour management enabled), but in IE and Windows photo viewer there is a shift to more red, less yellow and more contrast .

It's a quirk of my monitor that I have been struggling with for ages.

There isn't a problem with my laptop display, for example.

Ian

theMusicMan
21st June 2010, 06:43 PM
The shot of Julia & I has a slight redishness and tint on Firefox on my Mac screen Ian, looks a little less so on my uncalibrated Phillips monitor.

Nick
21st June 2010, 07:48 PM
Awesome pics :) I can't see any red tint in Safari 5 on my macbook

theMusicMan
21st June 2010, 07:55 PM
Awesome pics :) I can't see any red tint in Safari 5 on my macbook
I'm slowly starting to think Nick, that Firefox is playing up a little. I must start to use Safari more, but it's just the lovely add-ons I have in Firefox that make it easier to use for me.

Firefox sure eats resources on times, that's a fact.

Ian
21st June 2010, 08:50 PM
John, do you have colour management enabled in Firefox? I have a hunch that it's on by default in Safari.

Ian

theMusicMan
21st June 2010, 09:04 PM
John, do you have colour management enabled in Firefox? I have a hunch that it's on by default in Safari.

Ian
How do I tell Ian...?

Ian
21st June 2010, 09:22 PM
How do I tell Ian...?

This thread on dpnow.com should help:

http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=5850

Ian

theMusicMan
21st June 2010, 09:26 PM
This thread on dpnow.com should help:

http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=5850

Ian

Thanks Ian, one of the settings was set to 1, the other 0. I made them both 1 so we'll take a look and see the net effect.

Ian
22nd June 2010, 07:05 AM
Thanks Ian, one of the settings was set to 1, the other 0. I made them both 1 so we'll take a look and see the net effect.

Morning John - did you notice ay difference?

Basically, if the browser view looks the same as when viewing the photo in Lightroom or Photoshop, then it's colour managed.

Ian

Ian
22nd June 2010, 03:44 PM
Inspired by the discussion about colour management here, I have produced an article that looks at colour management and Web photos on our general site, DPNow.com, here:

http://dpnow.com/7201.html

Ian

wanderer
22nd June 2010, 04:06 PM
Is that the lovely Julia who deals with the hire requests?
If it is, at last a face to the voice.*yes
You're not much of a gentleman shooting her stuffing her face with ice-cream, its a bit unflattering.

And I recognise MusicMan by his finger (broken):D

Duncan

Ian
22nd June 2010, 04:07 PM
Is that the lovely Julia who deals with the hire requests?
If it is, at last a face to the voice.*yes
You're not much of a gentleman shooting her stuffing her face with ice-cream, its a bit unflattering.

And I recognise MusicMan by his finger (broken):D

Duncan

It is indeed - and yes, they were posing :)

Ian

theMusicMan
22nd June 2010, 05:16 PM
Is that the lovely Julia who deals with the hire requests?
If it is, at last a face to the voice.*yes
You're not much of a gentleman shooting her stuffing her face with ice-cream, its a bit unflattering.

And I recognise MusicMan by his finger (broken):D

Duncan
Hehe... I said to Julia... "don't you trust me...?", she replied... emphatically, with absolutely no doubt in her voice, in total certainty... "no John, I don't!"

Hehe....

Ian
23rd June 2010, 07:57 AM
John, was the article on colour management of any help? Did you notice any difference with FireFox settings changed?

Ian

Julia
23rd June 2010, 09:08 AM
Hi Duncan,

Is that the lovely Julia who deals with the hire requests?
If it is, at last a face to the voice.
You're not much of a gentleman shooting her stuffing her face with ice-cream, its a bit unflattering.

Yes, it's me and you're right it's very unflattering. To make matters worse I didn't get any of the ice-cream :mad:

Julia
23rd June 2010, 09:16 AM
Added avatar - a little better :)

Zuiko
23rd June 2010, 09:29 AM
I like the new avatar Julia. :)

Ian, colours look fine on my (uncalibrated) monitor. The only possible exception is the image of John and Julia - as John said, the skin tones may be just a tad too red. However, the skin tones in the first picture look perfect.

Maybe I am not sensitive to slight colour shifts or I'm just lucky, but my monitor is pretty well matched to my printer, so much so that I'm loathe to change anything. The only slight problem I have is that I need images to look about half a stop too bright on the monitor to produce the density print I require but I can live with that. So based on my experience you've little to worry about, at least as far as how your images are displaying in IE.

Ian
23rd June 2010, 09:38 AM
I like the new avatar Julia. :)

Ian, colours look fine on my (uncalibrated) monitor. The only possible exception is the image of John and Julia - as John said, the skin tones may be just a tad too red. However, the skin tones in the first picture look perfect.

Maybe I am not sensitive to slight colour shifts or I'm just lucky, but my monitor is pretty well matched to my printer, so much so that I'm loathe to change anything. The only slight problem I have is that I need images to look about half a stop too bright on the monitor to produce the density print I require but I can live with that. So based on my experience you've little to worry about, at least as far as how your images are displaying in IE.

The extra pink in the picture of John and Julia is a symptom of your browser not being colour managed. There is no excessive pink when I view in FireFox with CM enabled, but there is in IE, which is not CM aware.

Ian

theMusicMan
23rd June 2010, 04:15 PM
Hi Ian

Have to say I am with John P on this Ian. All the other images look fine except the one of Julia and I.

It looks as though colour management was already turned on in firefox so I am not sure what is causing the tint on mine and Johns systems.

No worries...

OlyPaul
23rd June 2010, 08:57 PM
The image of John and Julia look the same in IE and in colour managed ACDsee Pro3 for me, but saying that my monitor is calibrated to srgb for simplicities sake.

John certainy seems to have a ruddier complexion than Julia and this may be the reason you are assuming the colour is out on it.

If you look at the bridge shots John is standing next to a guy with a paler/normal complexion but still appear more redder (it must be all the time he spends out in the field doing landscapes).:)

If this is not the case I think both the Johns need to think about monitor calibration. ;)

theMusicMan
23rd June 2010, 09:05 PM
Oooooh.... I like being 'ruddier' :)

*Goes to bed feeling good*