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alexs
7th February 2010, 05:15 PM
Does anyone use a fast OM lens for birding? If so what lens is reccomended. I guess all the settings have to be taken manually...
just wondering as the 70-300 I have is good but in low light struggles so I wondered if there are any old prime lens that still works on the e-system?
alex

Xpres
7th February 2010, 05:26 PM
The om 300/4.5 is pretty good or the 350/2.8 if you can spare the cash. A tamron 300/2.8 is very good, or my favourite is an old tokina ATX 100-300/4. Yes, all manual, so takes a bit of getting used to... Manual focus is sometimes easier than af but it's the stopping down that takes a while to get accustomed to. The fast ones aren't too cheap though.

alexs
7th February 2010, 05:35 PM
The om 300/4.5 is pretty good or the 350/2.8 if you can spare the cash. A tamron 300/2.8 is very good, or my favourite is an old tokina ATX 100-300/4. Yes, all manual, so takes a bit of getting used to... Manual focus is sometimes easier than af but it's the stopping down that takes a while to get accustomed to. The fast ones aren't too cheap though.

thanks
I dread to ask .... but whats not too cheap? Are any in the same money ball park as the 70-300?
alex

theMusicMan
7th February 2010, 06:42 PM
Hi Alex

What are you not getting with the 70-300mm lens? I have this lens and I also had a Bigma but found the quality of the 70-300mm plus EC1.4 game me as good as if not better than the Bigma (which I also liked) and so I sold it earlier this year.

I've taken many birding shots in low light using this lens, and with ISO up to around 1600 too. This Nuthatch was at ISO1000.

http://www.reflectingme.com/img/v1/p765405242.jpg

... this too was with the 70-300mm

http://www.reflectingme.com/img/v2/p33848669-5.jpg

... and this was with the 70-300mm plus EC14...
http://www.reflectingme.com/img/v1/p337059825-4.jpg

alexs
7th February 2010, 06:54 PM
John,
you're right it's a great lens and I get on with it quite well so far...but sometimes like this morning , it was misty and early and I can't get the shutter speed up to somewhere I can hand hold..This was in "a" mode with iso 400, spot meter.
weirdly if I change to shutter mode it can get 200 in the same conditions without raising the iso. How does it do that.?
Anyway something else I'm trying to work out ISO ...even at 800 some pics have come out real sharp, next time they are awful. is high iso better/less noisy in good light....
I'm still experimenting:)
alex

shenstone
7th February 2010, 08:15 PM
I also like the 70-300 + EC-14 combo, but it does hunt in low light

Interesting to read your comments on them vs the Bigma John. I did wonder why you sold it on as I'd been lusting after one

I've not had the readies to look at the really expensive alternatives

Regards
Andy

BTW john - your Nuthatch picture is on a protected part of your website

Xpres
8th February 2010, 12:05 AM
thanks
I dread to ask .... but whats not too cheap? Are any in the same money ball park as the 70-300?
alex

The tamron can be had for about 300 upwards depending on condition and version, the olympus 350 is fairly rare and needs a tripod - too heavy to handhold. As you gain speed, you gain weight!
In fact, in low light, you may find you just need to use a tripod....

David M
8th February 2010, 12:24 AM
Two taken with an E-3 and the legacy OM Zuiko 350 mm f2.8 and the 1.4xA tele-convertor;

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/500/2160723.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/9471)

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/500/4270305.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/4945)

Another taken with the E-410 and OM Zuiko 350mm f2.8;

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/500/8110213.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/3629)

alexs
8th February 2010, 05:54 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I wonder if I was just pushing it a bit with the light. I may try the suggestion of using the tripod (shock!) in low light to see how I get on...
I'll put up a couple of attempts so that maybe I can be pointed in the right direction....
ta
al