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jonesy
31st August 2009, 06:48 PM
I've managed without a flashgun since I bought the E-410, but since I have started using the camera more, I have started to think about getting a flashgun.

What are the options available to me? Is the Olympus brand the best for the cameras (if I upgrade the camera body, I presume the flashgun will be OK), and what alternatives are available.

I dont see myself using it on an everyday basis, tho I suspect once I do have one, I'll find more uses/excuses to use my camera ;)

Please, any advice to a total flashgun novice, would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks

EH1
31st August 2009, 06:55 PM
I would recommend one of the Olympus one`s. However I would recommend steering clear of the FL-20 as it`s use is very limited. The FL-36 would be a good purchase for general use, they are around 120. Then they go up quite alot in price to the FL-40 & FL-50, but as I say the FL-36 should do you just fine! ;)

andym
31st August 2009, 07:11 PM
Tracey

I have an FL36(old version not the 'R').I find it fine to general useage.It even powerful enough to bounce off wall and cealings.
I try not to use flash unless I have too but I find it more than adequate.

Hope this helps.

Ian
31st August 2009, 07:19 PM
I would recommend one of the Olympus one`s. However I would recommend steering clear of the FL-20 as it`s use is very limited. The FL-36 would be a good purchase for general use, they are around 120. Then they go up quite alot in price to the FL-40 & FL-50, but as I say the FL-36 should do you just fine! ;)

The FL-40 is long discontinued (pre E-1, so not really fully Four Thirds compatible).

Ian

Graham_of_Rainham
31st August 2009, 07:47 PM
You can use other Flash Guns on the Olympus cameras, I do quite frequently, but: You need to use them in manual mode, unless you go for the mecablitz 36 AF-4 digital or something similar, but that will set you back more or less the same as an FL-36 anyway.

So best bet: FL-36R (The "R" has a built in Slave unit) which can be triggered off camera by the pop-up, very usefull and upward compatable.

159 @ SRSmicrosystems

stevednp3
31st August 2009, 08:50 PM
I highly recommend the FL-36R I got one this weekend and got on with it very quickly, its quite powerful has a tlit and swivel head so you can pull off some very creative shots

Jonesgj
31st August 2009, 08:55 PM
So best bet: FL-36R (The "R" has a built in Slave unit) which can be triggered off camera by the pop-up, very usefull and upward compatable.

159 @ SRSmicrosystems

Chris demo'd this feature while taking a picture of the zebra in Burghley park in Stamford on Saturday. He explained the difference between the wireless trigger and the slave. Obviosuly, I have an FL36r and with my limited knowledge I find it great. I bought some rechargeable batteries for it and, not being a pro/heavy user, I am happy with the cycle-time too.

I think it would be a good choice.

Regards

Graydon

jonesy
31st August 2009, 09:01 PM
Thanks everyone for the input. I'll see if my local Jessop has one and go take a look/play on Friday )if I get chance :)

HughofBardfield
1st September 2009, 01:16 PM
As has been said, Oly's own flashes are quite good. However, the FL36 is crippled by only having 2 x AA cells, which means slow recycle times. If you are likely to want to use flash photography at events, I would suggest either an FL50 or a compatible Metz if you want automation.

However, for occasional use, or an introduction to flash, there are loads of cheap, used flashes available on the 2nd hand market. The venerable OM-era Olympus T20 and T32 are well worth a look for example. While neither offers full automation, both offer a range of semi-auto settings. The T20 will fit in a pocket and the 4 x AA T32 is only slightly bigger, but offers better recycle times than the FL36 IMHO, and still has enough oomph to be used with either bounce or a diffuser. The great thing about digital, of course, is that you can see immediately whether the flash has provided adequate power/ coverage. In the "good old days", when you had to wait until the film was processed, knowing the flash would be about right was arguably more important...

Other legacy flashes will work as well, but some caution is advised as the trigger voltages of a few old flash units would probably fry your camera! See http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

So, if you happen to find an old Vivitar 283 at a car boot, be careful how you pick it up! :D

jonesy
1st September 2009, 03:48 PM
Please could someone tell me how one of these would differ to a Oly flash gun

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TTL-AF-DIGITAL-FLASH-FOR-OLYMPUS-E-3-Evolt-E-410-E-520_W0QQitemZ300342049354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cam erasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraFlashUnits_JN?ha sh=item45edc7fa4a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_4390wt_770

Many thanks

Adagio
1st September 2009, 03:56 PM
So best bet: FL-36R (The "R" has a built in Slave unit) which can be triggered off camera by the pop-up, very usefull and upward compatable.

159 @ SRSmicrosystems

Thought at that price I might buy one but -
"Only 199" today :confused:

Perhaps the Metz 48 AF-1 instead?

HughofBardfield
2nd September 2009, 12:41 PM
Please could someone tell me how one of these would differ to a Oly flash gun

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TTL-AF-DIGITAL-FLASH-FOR-OLYMPUS-E-3-Evolt-E-410-E-520_W0QQitemZ300342049354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cam erasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraFlashUnits_JN?ha sh=item45edc7fa4a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_4390wt_770

Many thanks


My concern would be whether it genuinely offers full, dedicated TTL automation a la Oly & Metz. The vendor seems to sell the same flash in a number of different guises, but feedback seems good, so people must be happy with what they've bought.

Adagio
2nd September 2009, 02:05 PM
Another possible area of concern is that the item is in the USA. Your consumer rights would be dependent on PayPal's protection, you could not enforce SoGA rights. Since less than 100 no credit card protection. Import duty & VAT likely to be levied. However, at that price might be worth a punt.

If you take the plunge Tracey let us know how you get on.

EH1
2nd September 2009, 02:45 PM
Another possible area of concern is that the item is in the USA. Your consumer rights would be dependent on PayPal's protection, you could not enforce SoGA rights. Since less than 100 no credit card protection. Import duty & VAT likely to be levied. However, at that price might be worth a punt.

If you take the plunge Tracey let us know how you get on.

Yes it would be good to know the outcome if you go for this flash! :)

yorky
2nd September 2009, 06:03 PM
I bought the small olympus fl20 from the states through e-bay. It cost about 60 and did not atract the attention of Her Majesties staff.

Barrie Norman
2nd September 2009, 06:17 PM
Please could someone tell me how one of these would differ to a Oly flash gun

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TTL-AF-DIGITAL-FLASH-FOR-OLYMPUS-E-3-Evolt-E-410-E-520_W0QQitemZ300342049354QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cam erasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraFlashUnits_JN?ha sh=item45edc7fa4a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_4390wt_770

Many thanks

At this price I would buy the Metz 36 AF-4 O which is fully compatible with all Oly DSLR's I have one and I have been pleased with it as I use it with my 150 Macro lens for fill in it has a good recycle time and use's 4xAA batts about the same price as the flebay item from warehouse express you may find one on ebay cheaper but I would check out warehouse expess, I knp
ow there was a thread recently knocking this model, but mine has been OK and Metz have a very good reputation, like most German manufacturers, I hope this has been of help, you are best off with an auto unit and also some early Oly models designed for 35mm have to high a triger voltage and can damage the electronics of the DSLR's

Barrie

stevednp3
2nd September 2009, 06:31 PM
I recently had the Metz 36 AF-4 O and the battery door fell off after a week and then it stopped working after 4 weeks, it didnt have that much usage.

The shop refunded me straight away saying they had a few brought back, might have been a faulty batch that was made, but I have the Olympus FL-36R now and the build quailty is so much higher, but then it is 100 more.

malcapone
27th April 2010, 07:34 PM
Cobra D650 is it any good (safe)?
I've just bought a E620 and and I don't want to fry it
I also have a T20 - I assume thats ok seeing as its Olympus but you know the golden rule (never assume)



E-620 E-410 Pancake - 17.5/45 40/150 - T20