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BigD
6th January 2008, 11:27 PM
so how many photos have people taken on there dslr ?

ive taken 669 so far :) shame only a few are keepers lol.





dave.

Barr1e
7th January 2008, 08:52 AM
so how many photos have people taken on there dslr ?

ive taken 669 so far :) shame only a few are keepers lol.





dave.

Hi Dave -

I can't find in my computer the instructions (which I stored) for how many my E-510 has taken. Can anyone post those for me please?

Regards Barr1e

andym
7th January 2008, 09:00 AM
Hi Barry try this link.

http://www.biofos.com/cornucop/hidden.html

I assume it will work for the E510.But heed the warning

Pete_VN52
7th January 2008, 09:52 AM
Also bear in mind that using live view adds to the shutter actuation count, so that will skew the numbers. I think (I read it somewhere anyway).

Barr1e
7th January 2008, 12:17 PM
It would seem my useage so far is 1112 activations 86 with flash. Less what was used before shipping/testing.

It would appear I need to click more - although having said that I do use other cameras too.

Regards. Barr1e

ps Thanks for the link. For the E-510 the MENU button is used as is does not have a DISPLAY one.

shenstone
7th January 2008, 10:35 PM
so how many photos have people taken on there dslr ?

ive taken 669 so far :) shame only a few are keepers lol.

dave.


Oh dear... I got my E500 when I got married last year and I had the first photo related argument as I passed 900 images on the Honeymoon ( it was Rome after all where else could be any better)

Well Imatch reports 17,017 today which is what I've kept so the shot total must be about twice that. However Quantity does not equal quality as I'm sure many will agree and I know that I'm still learning how the functions on this new to me digital camera work.

I still find I miss shots because I still think like film and forget I can make adjustments to settings or afterwards.

Regards
Andy

Nick Temple-Fry
7th January 2008, 11:09 PM
No way am I going to press all those buttons just to get a figure that's pretty meaningless for me. But it did get me approximating thinking (or something like that).

If I'm out landscape shooting then I may only take 5 - 10 shots in a whole morning, and probably only a couple will I intend for keepers - the rest will be recce shots for other days/lights.

Shooting birds, then 150 + shots in an afternoon would not be unusual.

Doing a small village church - inside and out - between 25 and 50 shots.

Nick

Susan
8th January 2008, 11:06 PM
Erm I've taken 1737 approx since the end of November :)

I just checked the file where I store my photo's. Although some of them are duplicates as I shoot in Raw & Jpeg. Of course there are probably several hundred that I've binned as well lol

Got a new hard drive today specifically for storing my photo's. Got 160gb so it should hopefully last me a wee while :)

theMusicMan
8th January 2008, 11:28 PM
Erm I've taken 1737 approx since the end of November :)

I just checked the file where I store my photo's. Although some of them are duplicates as I shoot in Raw & Jpeg. Of course there are probably several hundred that I've binned as well lol

Got a new hard drive today specifically for storing my photo's. Got 160gb so it should hopefully last me a wee while :)
Don't bank on it Susan...!! These external drives soon fill up with ORF's and JPG's thats for sure.

I have two external drives, a 250GB one and a 500GB one... will soon be needing another one...:)

BigD
8th January 2008, 11:43 PM
lol your lucky, im stuck with my 60 gig lappy drive for now :o

theMusicMan
9th January 2008, 06:01 AM
lol your lucky, im stuck with my 60 gig lappy drive for now :o
How will you manage when your library grows BigD? Do you archive to DVD? and shoot in JPG?

j.baker
9th January 2008, 09:41 AM
I have taken well over 3000 shots with my Oly 400 & 510 and other cameras. I normally keep most, if not all images taken. This way I can learn from my mistakes (or try to). I currently have 48.5GB of images in 17301 files. Some are RAW duplicates.

I have one important thing to say.... BACKUP and often.

Do not rely on a new shiny hard drive for all of your data. I have had several new drives fail in the first week of use. If you can backup to DVD (or CD) and try to store a copy off site. As I have posted in another thread, I lost 60GB of data 3-4 years ago. Most were CD/DVD ISO images for mounting across my network, but I lost some very important pictures and documents.

If anyone needs advice on backup strategies, please let me know.

Susan
9th January 2008, 10:05 PM
My new hard drive is in :)

Although Garrie's partitioned it for me, as I wanted a section for my photo's and also a seperate section for my design work.
However it's taking some amout of sorting through to clear the rubbish that I don't need :(

Will definately be backing up to dvd, going to aim for a weekly basis, the drive is a seagate barracuda that I got so I know that any problems with failure it's got a good guarantee. Obviously though that doesn't help if I've lost all my shots. However we're running 4 seagate barracuda's and touch wood haven't had one fail yet (hope i haven't just jinxed us!!)

It would be really good to hear any other tips you have on other backup techniques John, if you wouldn't mind advising?

Will let you all know how long it takes to fill it lol

Cheers
Susan :)

BigD
9th January 2008, 10:13 PM
How will you manage when your library grows BigD? Do you archive to DVD? and shoot in JPG?


at the moment i just delete all the pictures that turn out bad, and upload the rest :o not ideal i know, but im saving to move out so an external hdd isnt very high on my priorities now :( :D

shenstone
9th January 2008, 10:52 PM
Hi Folk

I have to say that I'm entirely in agreement with j.baker. You can't rely on Hard Drives.. !

I work in IT and have many a times had to console someone who's just lost all their valuable data and photo's (especially family events) can be irreplaceable.

Don't just think about HDD problems. Fire & theft play a part.

There was a thread a while ago that went into this http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=442&highlight=backup

If you read my post you can see how paranoid I am in relation to this - it's come from experience the hard way !!!

Regards
Andy

j.baker
10th January 2008, 09:54 AM
I have several tactics that are part of my backup strategy.

1. On the Move
When out and about I use a portable hard drive backup. You will need to have a PATA or SATA 2.5" laptop hard drive.

I have purchased three of the normal PATA units from this seller.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PHOTO-BANK-SATA-HDD-USB-2-0-Data-LCD-SD-CF-MS-Pro-XD-MD_W0QQitemZ270201892874QQihZ017QQcategoryZ130860Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Photo-Bank-Storage-SD-CF-MS-XD-SM-MMC-2-5-Card-Reader_W0QQitemZ270202117122QQihZ017QQcategoryZ130 861QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

You need to use the mains charger, as most newer computers USB ports do not supply enough power, to charge and copy off files. You also need to format the drive as FAT 32. DO not use Windows to do this. I have a nice free windows command line tool, that I found on the internet, that can format drives up to 500GB

This allows you to take backups of your CF/SD/MS when on the move.

2. RAID & Drive Duplication
As I have said before, I lost 60GB of data a while back. I could not afford the recovery fees. I then decided to purchase a RAID solution for my PC server.

For more information about raid, have a look at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

I purchased five hard drives, and a four port RAID 5 controller. This gave me a very large amount of disk space, and it also meant that I could lose a disk and still have my data intact. The fifth drive was as a spare unit.

Now this is not cheap. Some new PC motherboards now come with a RAID 5 option. Most use software drivers, but achieve the same level of protection. However they are often slower than hardware solutions. Initially I would recommend using RAID 1. This is called mirroring. This makes sure that two (the minimum required) or more disks have exactly the same information on them. Nearly all recent PC motherboards offer this.

There are other ways that you can mirror your data. I also use a file mirror tool. Itís called CopyTo and it is a commercial tool, but very cheap. The URL is: http://www.kish-d.com/ Yes you can get other programs that may cost less or more, but I have been using this tool for the last three years. Its can copy whole directories, of select specific files. The most important this is that it can verify the files after they have been written and it is intelligent to copy the changes.

3. External storage
I have three NAS, Network attached storage, appliances. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage Two of the units that I have support RAID 1 Mirroring. I use the Thecus N2100 and Synology DS207 units. They are very good at what they do. They offer extra functionary, like a iTunes server, or a Photo Gallery. Some can be modified with third party software tools. They are small, fairly quiet and fairly easy to use. Small problem is that although both of the units that I have mentioned support Gigabit speeds, that in reality on support between 9MB-19MB/s write and 15-35MB/s read whereas my hardware RAID 5 solution will happily run at 120-200MN/s write and 170-220MB/s read.

4. Removable Storage
Even with the multiple copies of data there is still a risk of fire or theft. I recommend that you send a backup of your data offsite. I am fortunate that my parents are still alive, and my Dad is PC literate. So I keep a copy of his data and he keeps a copy of mine. With over 200 Miles between us it reduces the risk of losing data. If you have a friend or family member, see if they will look after your data.

Most computers PC and Macs will have an optical drive of some sort. Most will support writing. If you use Windows XP or later, and have the capability to write CDROM, then you do not need to purchase any CD burning software. The Microsoft CD burning tools are not great, but they do work. I personally use Nero, but there are other great CD/DVD burning tools out there. I would suggest that you use a new(ish) DVD writer that support the writing to dual layer disks. Dual layer DVD disks are now very cheap. I purchase mine from Scan or Ebuyer. A pack of 10 Aone 8x DVD+r Dual layer disks were under a tenner. So far I have not had any problems.


So here is my backup strategy
1. Flash card backup on the move.
2. Hardware RAID 5 storage in my server
3. File mirror tool to NAS appliances
4. Regular backup sent to off site location, via HDD, DVD or via VPN
5. Local DVD backups
6.
Now I admit that this might be considered overkill , but as my job is IT Security, I use the equipment for my job.

shenstone
10th January 2008, 08:43 PM
Now I admit that this might be considered overkill.




:eek: Yes John it might !!!:D:D:D

I have to agree with you though ... :)

Regards
Andy