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Harold Gough
19th March 2019, 08:48 PM
Stamp prices rise next Mon - stock up by Sun. On 25 Mar, the price of a 1st class standard letter rises to 70p, 2nd class to 61p. Large letters rise by even more.

Harold

sapper
20th March 2019, 06:12 PM
Dunnit!:):)

Keith-369
20th March 2019, 06:29 PM
Got enough today to last a couple of Christmases so we're all set :)

Keith *chr

Naughty Nigel
22nd March 2019, 12:28 PM
We are still using First Class postage stamps that I bought shortly before the price rose sharply (to 41p IIRC) around 2009 or 2010. I did however invest in 100 Second Class stamps last week as I had run out of those.

I bought about 450 worth knowing that they would be used, and also knowing that it would be a better and more worthwhile investment than leaving the money in the bank. :rolleyes:

DerekW
22nd March 2019, 02:29 PM
Do you charge the business for the current cost of the stamp to replenish the coffers of Nigel's film fund

Naughty Nigel
22nd March 2019, 02:32 PM
Do you charge the business for the current cost of the stamp to replenish the coffers of Nigel's film fund

I couldn't possibly comment other than to state that they have different nominal ledgers. :D

Harold Gough
26th March 2019, 09:24 AM
It's too late now.

Harold

Darkroom
26th March 2019, 09:43 AM
It's too late now.

Harold


Indeed it is ! Having not paid sufficient attention to the date in your original post, I informed SWMBO the increase was at the end of the month. She trotted off to the Post Office yesterday suitably armed with a wad of cash, only to be informed it was too late. :eek:

Feel free to use your imagination regarding her response on returning home :(



Darkroom

Harold Gough
26th March 2019, 09:46 AM
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Feel free to use your imagination regarding her response on returning home :(


Did she stick one on you? :D

Harold

Naughty Nigel
26th March 2019, 10:59 AM
Indeed it is ! Having not paid sufficient attention to the date in your original post, I informed SWMBO the increase was at the end of the month. She trotted off to the Post Office yesterday suitably armed with a wad of cash, only to be informed it was too late. :eek:

Feel free to use your imagination regarding her response on returning home :(

Darkroom

I was curious about the seemingly random date of the price increase, and then it dawned on me. Yesterday was the Feast of the Annunciation, which in medieval times marked the New Year (Edit) and is a Quarter Day.

To quote Wiki:

“The date is close to the vernal equinox, as Christmas is to the winter solstice; because of this the Annunciation and Christmas were two of the four "quarter days" in medieval and early modern England, which marked the divisions of the fiscal year (the other two were Midsummer Day, or the Nativity of St. John the Baptist, on 24 June, and Michaelmas, the feast day of St. Michael, on 29 September).

When the calendar system of Anno Domini was first introduced by Dionysius Exiguus in AD 525, he assigned the beginning of the new year to 25 March, because according to Christian doctrine, the age of grace began with the Incarnation of Christ at the Annunciation, on which date Jesus Christ is believed to have been conceived in the Virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.”

So that probably also explains why the tax year ends in March, although HMRC's tax year has drifted into early April.

Harold Gough
26th March 2019, 11:03 AM
I was curious about the seemingly random date of the price increase, and then it dawned on me. Yesterday was the Feast of the Annunciation, which in medieval times marked the New Year.

To quote Wiki:



So that probably also explains why the tax year ends in March, although HMRC's tax year has drifted into early April.

It's also a Quarter Day. when business rents become due:

https://www.landlordzone.co.uk/information/quarter-days

Harold

Naughty Nigel
26th March 2019, 11:13 AM
It's also a Quarter Day. when business rents become due:

https://www.landlordzone.co.uk/information/quarter-days

Harold

Correct; but it originally became New Year and a Quarter Day because of the Annunciation.

Harold Gough
26th March 2019, 11:57 AM
Correct; but it originally became New Year and a Quarter Day because of the Annunciation.

OK. So, how does it relate, on the calendar, to Easter?

Harold

Naughty Nigel
26th March 2019, 12:50 PM
OK. So, how does it relate, on the calendar, to Easter?

Harold

That is an interesting question Harold.

Some/many Academic Theologians believe that Jesus' Incarnation at the Annunciation and his crucifixion were on or very close to the very same day of the year. Records from biblical times are of course very sketchy, but there were astronomers in those days who probably had a much better idea of the astronomical calendar than most.

In the year 325 AD the Council of Nicaea established that Easter would be held on the first Sunday after the first Full Moon (Pascal Moon) occurring on or after the vernal equinox. Nicea was on the site of the modern-day town of Iznik in Turkey. From that point forward, the Easter date depended on the ecclesiastical approximation of March 21 for the vernal equinox.

Easter is therefore 'a moveable feast'.

Rocknroll59
26th March 2019, 09:17 PM
Frightening really, nearly 1 to send a letter 1st class....won't be long before it will be cheaper to drive it there yourself..:D:D. I don't post many letters now its mainly email, so I suppose I am guilty of pushing the prices up by not using it.

Our kindly Postperson (being correct here) says there is no real difference in 1st and 2nd class !!

Peter *chr

Naughty Nigel
26th March 2019, 09:57 PM
Our kindly Postperson (being correct here) says there is no real difference in 1st and 2nd class !!

Peter *chr

I'm not so sure about that. We send out a lot of post using the First Class Recorded (Signed For) service. As it is tracked we can easily found out when it is delivered, and in most cases it is delivered next day although there have been some odd exceptions.

We don't send much second class, but second class mail that we receive usually takes two or three days. However, I think it depends when the mail is posted.

Harold Gough
27th March 2019, 06:51 AM
Our kindly Postperson (being correct here) says there is no real difference in 1st and 2nd class !!

I have never understood, and will never understand, the business case for storing second class mail to delay delivery. Second class mail, including packages, almost always reaches me the second day after posting.

I don't know whether it is regional or national but Saturday deliveries may cease, except for packages, which will rely on voluntary overtime. That is from our Postie.

Harold

Harold Gough
27th March 2019, 06:53 AM
We don't send much second class, but second class mail that we receive usually takes two or three days. However, I think it depends when the mail is posted.

You have a choice of posting times? Our only outgoing post is at 7am. There is an afternoon one from outside the local Post Office, half a mile away.

Harold

Naughty Nigel
27th March 2019, 08:33 AM
I have never understood, and will never understand, the business case for storing second class mail to delay delivery. Second class mail, including packages, almost always reaches me the second day after posting.

I don't know whether it is regional or national but Saturday deliveries may cease, except for packages, which will rely on voluntary overtime. That is from our Postie.

Harold

I don't think the mail is stored as such; more a case that First Class is prioritised over Second Class, or 'Standard Class' as BR would call it.

If a lorry (or lorries) leave processing hubs loaded with mainly First Class post it wouldn't make sense to half-fill another lorry with Second Class post. In that case I would expect any remaining Second Class to be dispatched on the next lorry with spare capacity.

I am not entirely sure that we have a daily mail delivery service any more as there are some days that I don't see a Postie at all. It could be that if there are very few First Class letters to be delivered that Postie is redeployed elsewhere.


You have a choice of posting times? Our only outgoing post is at 7am. There is an afternoon one from outside the local Post Office, half a mile away.

Harold

I was thinking more of the day of the week than the time on any particular day. We have two collections from our village Post Office; one around Noon and a second collection at about 5 O'clock.

Harold Gough
27th March 2019, 09:00 AM
I don't think the mail is stored as such; more a case that First Class is prioritised over Second Class, or 'Standard Class' as BR would call it.

If a lorry (or lorries) leave processing hubs loaded with mainly First Class post it wouldn't make sense to half-fill another lorry with Second Class post. In that case I would expect any remaining Second Class to be dispatched on the next lorry with spare capacity.


I think that was the historical case. There have been at least two national Royal Mail exercises, in the last (?) decade, of closing down local sorting offices and establishing regional hubs. Our local mail travels 40 miles to the nearest hub and 40 miles back for delivery.

Harold

Naughty Nigel
27th March 2019, 12:17 PM
I think that was the historical case. There have been at least two national Royal Mail exercises, in the last (?) decade, of closing down local sorting offices and establishing regional hubs. Our local mail travels 40 miles to the nearest hub and 40 miles back for delivery.

Harold

That is the same for us. Our regional hub is at Team Valley in Gateshead, about thirty miles away. As far as I know Darlington sorting office is just a collection point nowadays. Post used to travel between regional hubs by rail but I don't think that happens any more.

Darkroom
27th March 2019, 12:55 PM
Did she stick one on you? :D

Harold

That may have been preferable to the Po Face Treatment. Not to mention beans on soggy toast for the evening meal !

If Harold had put the date in the header non of this would have happened :D

Darkroom