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Graham_of_Rainham
26th December 2018, 10:34 AM
If you happen to spot any weird or wacky sales, please share:

Last year I saw a “pre-owned” REAL Christmas Tree on eBay.

Darkroom
26th December 2018, 11:09 AM
If you happen to spot any weird or wacky sales, please share:

Last year I saw a “pre-owned” REAL Christmas Tree on eBay.

Not being an audio or stereo addict, I'm not sure if this is wacky or not but £35,000 for pre-owned speakers seems a bit extreme. It may interest NaughtyNigel :)

Handy kit if you don't like your neighbours. Theres an extra £2000 if you want the packing crates.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-W-Nautilus-Loudspeakers-Pre-owned/263804927283?hash=item3d6bffbd33:g:SKsAAOSwRCNatRY 1:rk:17:pf:0

Darkroom

DerekW
26th December 2018, 11:44 AM
Given that it cost £50k 9 years ago it is not unreasonable. The biggest cause of price drop is the lack of people able to consider owning such kit.

However my dealer is supplying a pair of speakers for £180k in the next few weeks. This is to go with about £200k of electronics.

These details are very useful in demonstrating to my wife how economical my Oly collection is.

pdk42
26th December 2018, 12:56 PM
Fancy a Leica M1 Olive for £13.7k?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEICA-LEITZ-M1-OLIVE-BUNDESEIGENTUM-SET-RARE-KOOCT-857/132742879212?hash=item1ee81797ec:g:oLgAAOSwuz1bcaR b

pdk42
26th December 2018, 01:06 PM
Or if the Leica is too expensive - how about this old Olympus P&S, available from several sellers on Amazon for £69, but a steal from this seller on eBay at £970:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLYMPUS-D-750-DIGITAL-CAMERA-16MP-BLACK-10X-WIDE-OPTICAL-ZOOM-3-LCD-SCREEN/281261355051?epid=8012040700&hash=item417c7bb02b:g:19EAAOSwBahU1JbA

Naughty Nigel
26th December 2018, 01:36 PM
Not being an audio or stereo addict, I'm not sure if this is wacky or not but £35,000 for pre-owned speakers seems a bit extreme. It may interest NaughtyNigel :)

Handy kit if you don't like your neighbours. Theres an extra £2000 if you want the packing crates.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-W-Nautilus-Loudspeakers-Pre-owned/263804927283?hash=item3d6bffbd33:g:SKsAAOSwRCNatRY 1:rk:17:pf:0

Darkroom

Not for me thank you. Apart from being brash and ugly I really wouldn't get any pleasure from spending that sort of money on a pair of loudspeakers, even if they are built in the UK. The phrase "finished in Audi Daytona Grey metallic" says it all for me. ;)

A pair of Quad Electrostatics are much more my style. :)



Or if the Leica is too expensive - how about this old Olympus P&S, available from several sellers on Amazon for £69, but a steal from this seller on eBay at £970:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLYMPUS-D-750-DIGITAL-CAMERA-16MP-BLACK-10X-WIDE-OPTICAL-ZOOM-3-LCD-SCREEN/281261355051?epid=8012040700&hash=item417c7bb02b:g:19EAAOSwBahU1JbA


Ahh but this is eBay, and somebody will think they've got a bargain at that price. *yes

I see that two have already been sold and that this is the only one remaining. I wonder what the 'Best Offer' prices were?

Otto
26th December 2018, 03:57 PM
Maybe I could get good money for my old Camedia C-350! It wasn't a bad camera for the time but wouldn't work in cold weather unless I kept the batteries in my pocket :).


If you click on the "2 sold" link you'll see several offers, all declined, and one sold back in 2015 for £70.

https://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=281261355051&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2564

pdk42
28th December 2018, 04:50 PM
Not weird - but an UNUSED OM4Ti:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNUSED-IN-BOX-Olympus-OM-4TI-35mm-SLR-Film-Camera-Body-Black-From-JAPAN/312397431800?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CA SSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20151005190705%26meid%3D90b ffca987ef4ac292ec79df8c1c949f%26pid%3D100506%26rk% 3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D312397431800&_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226


I'm almost tempted!

Naughty Nigel
28th December 2018, 06:41 PM
Not weird - but an UNUSED OM4Ti:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNUSED-IN-BOX-Olympus-OM-4TI-35mm-SLR-Film-Camera-Body-Black-From-JAPAN/312397431800?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CA SSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20151005190705%26meid%3D90b ffca987ef4ac292ec79df8c1c949f%26pid%3D100506%26rk% 3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D312397431800&_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226


I'm almost tempted!

And "TOTALLY VERY BEAUTIFUL". :)

I bought a brand new, boxed OM4Ti about ten years ago for a very reasonable price, which came with the Olympus microscope adapter and the angled viewfinder attachment. It had been bought for a lab but had never been opened.

I bought my first OM4Ti brand new from the old Jessops in Oxford Street in 1999. I also have an OM2 Sp. Both of these are well used but in excellent condition so I don't really have the heart to take the new one outdoors.

TimP
28th December 2018, 06:50 PM
And "TOTALLY VERY BEAUTIFUL". :)

I bought a brand new, boxed OM4Ti about ten years ago for a very reasonable price, which came with the Olympus microscope adapter and the angled viewfinder attachment. It had been bought for a lab but had never been opened.

I bought my first OM4Ti brand new from the old Jessops in Oxford Street in 1999. I also have an OM2 Sp. Both of these are well used but in excellent condition so I don't really have the heart to take the new one outdoors.

You could lend it to Harold, he’ll look after it I’m sure.

pdk42
28th December 2018, 06:51 PM
I have a small OM1 outfit - 24/2.8, 50/1.8 and 100/2.8. I run the very occasional roll of film through it and generally enjoy the experience, but I find digital so much more convenient and capable of delivering much better quality. However, a return to my roots is nice once on a while.

Naughty Nigel
28th December 2018, 07:03 PM
I have a small OM1 outfit - 24/2.8, 50/1.8 and 100/2.8. I run the very occasional roll of film through it and generally enjoy the experience, but I find digital so much more convenient and capable of delivering much better quality. However, a return to my roots is nice once on a while.

I tend to use 35 mm only for B&W these days for the same reasons. Digital is so much more convenient, and the quality of colour negative exposures is poor unless you go to medium format.

I do occasionally run a roll of Velvia through my OM though, and have been very pleased with the results, but given that a tripod is almost essential when using 50 ASA film I might as well use medium format.

That said, I would like to try a roll of the new Ektar 100 in the OM sometime soon.

Naughty Nigel
28th December 2018, 07:10 PM
Actually I had sixteen 120 roll films processed just before Christmas and spent some time looking at them on the light box over the holidays. One film was totally unexposed, (my fault I think)*, but the others look very good to me so I am looking forward to scanning them soon.

*At least I know my light seals are good.

pdk42
28th December 2018, 08:14 PM
What camera do you use for 120 Nigel?

Naughty Nigel
28th December 2018, 08:43 PM
What camera do you use for 120 Nigel?

Hi Paul, I have used a Mamiya 645 Pro TL with a selection of backs and lenses since 2005.

When I bought my E1 for my day job I really fancied trying medium format. Medium format cameras were almost being given away at the time and I didn't need to use one for work so I had a free choice.

I even bought a collection of brand new (old stock) Mamiya lenses from Ffordes for giveaway prices when I presume shelves were being cleared somewhere! :)

I have used the 645 for one or two work projects where quality (beyond that of the E1/E5) was important and I was not disappointed.

More recently, about two years ago in fact, I bought an RZ67 Pro II and lenses from Japan. They were in virtually new condition. Prices were very reasonable, although they have increased quite a lot since. Shipping via Japan mail and Royal Mail was remarkably speedy too.

I really enjoy using the RZ. The leaf shutter is a bonus but the RZ is a big, heavy beast best used in a studio or within a short walk of a car! I therefore tend to prefer going out with the 645 which is no bigger or heavier than my old E5, although the lenses take up a bit more space.

From the forums that I have visited many of the RZ's seem to be used with digital backs rather than with film. Those that are used with film tend to be used more with black and white.

Interestingly I have seen very few 'good' landscape or outdoor photographs taken with the RZ whereas the 645 is much better represented in landscapes; probably for the reasons that I have given. *yes

Otto
29th December 2018, 09:52 AM
That said, I would like to try a roll of the new Ektar 100 in the OM sometime soon.


Not sure if Ektar has been reformulated but I used some in Florence some years ago in my OM-2n. The results were superb. I have quite an extensive collection of OM kit lying unused while I await the return of some enthusiasm, but digital is just so much easier. As a result I find my photography has got lazier!


I had a Mamiya RB kit for a while which weighed a ton, and needed a sturdy tripod weighing another ton so I didn't keep it very long. My favourite MF camera was a Mamiya 6MF which handled like a big Leica and weighed about the same as my OM-4 plus 35-105 zoom. I had the body and the three lenses which all packed into a small bag which was easily portable. The lenses were generally regarded as world class and certainly the results I got with it were superb. It had interlocks for everything to prevent mishaps, except there was no warning of the lens cap being in place, prompting a friend who was watching me compose a photo with it in place to remark "what you see is what you would have got". After a few blanks I got into the habit of removing the cap whenever I extended the lens!

pdk42
29th December 2018, 10:28 AM
That's interesting Nigel and Richard. I found a fascinating blog a little while ago (can't find it now!!) by a guy who was specialising in mono work on 120 film. His output was very impressive. He was going through a long line of emulsions to find what suited him best.

Sometimes I'm tempted to give MF a try since I never did in film days. OTOH, a good friend of mine has recently bought a Bronica and a couple of lenses and I think he's used it twice before putting it into the glass display case! I have no desire to keep cameras as collectors items.

Ricoh
29th December 2018, 12:13 PM
That's interesting Nigel and Richard. I found a fascinating blog a little while ago (can't find it now!!) by a guy who was specialising in mono work on 120 film. His output was very impressive. He was going through a long line of emulsions to find what suited him best.

Sometimes I'm tempted to give MF a try since I never did in film days. OTOH, a good friend of mine has recently bought a Bronica and a couple of lenses and I think he's used it twice before putting it into the glass display case! I have no desire to keep cameras as collectors items.
Unless one has a flatbed, or a dedicated MF scanner such as the Plustek (you'll need many £s though), or possibly wish to take a picture of the negative with a MFT, it needs some thinking.
For pocket money you get one of these: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Holga+120n&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

And as a primer, beg steal or purchase a copy of 'HOLGA Photographs' by Michael Kenna.

Naughty Nigel
29th December 2018, 10:35 PM
Not sure if Ektar has been reformulated but I used some in Florence some years ago in my OM-2n. The results were superb.

I am fairly sure that Ektar 100 has been reformulated, or at least 'heavily revised' over the past few years, and is now claimed to be the finest grain colour negative film on the market.

The old Eastman Kodak company is no longer, but the reincarnated Kodak Alaris business seems determined to produce top quality emulsions for the demanding new breed of film photographers.

(Let's be honest, a lot of films produced by the big players in the latter days of mass-market film photography were utter crap so improvement should not be difficult!)

I am sure the new Kodak Alaris management team is under no illusions that digital is the easy and default choice for today's photographers, so they have made it their mission to produce films that photographers want to choose above digital. The new Ektachrome film has been well received, and there have even been rumours of resurrecting Kodachrome; but if it did ever happen I suspect it would be heavily reformulated from the original; possibly as an E6 emulsion.

There were some problems with Ektar two or three years ago with reports of the emulsion detaching from the polyester base, but this has been resolved now. (The base is supplied by an outside contractor who applies the emulsion provided by Kodak.)

It is an open secret that Fuji has not manufactured any film at all for at least two years now, and that their current inventory is limited to stocks, so hopefully the Kodak Alaris management team will be taking full advantage of this opportunity.

Naughty Nigel
29th December 2018, 10:40 PM
I had a Mamiya RB kit for a while which weighed a ton, and needed a sturdy tripod weighing another ton so I didn't keep it very long.

The RB was even heavier than the RZ!

However, I have convinced myself that the 645 produces negatives around two-thirds the size of the RZ so the extreme weight penalty is only worthwhile in good weather and when I don't have to carry the RZ too far! *yes

Ricoh
29th December 2018, 11:02 PM
Do you scan the negs, NN?
Some good Jan sales on Epson V800. Has me thinking of raiding the piggy...

Ricoh
29th December 2018, 11:07 PM
For me film photography is B&W, but the likes of Colorplus pushes really nice at +2 stops. At box it's quite flat, but pushed looks really nice with an old-world feel. Cheap as chips too.

Naughty Nigel
29th December 2018, 11:10 PM
Do you scan the negs, NN?
Some good Jan sales on Epson V800. Has me thinking of raiding the piggy...

Yes, I have a Nikon LS9000, but despite the 'Scan Speed' name it takes its time. :)

Software has been an issue because Nikon dropped support after Windows Xp and the Mac OS of the same era, but we have set up a 32 bit Windows 7 machine that does the job well enough.

Ricoh
29th December 2018, 11:27 PM
Yes, I have a Nikon LS9000, but despite the 'Scan Speed' name it takes its time. :)

Software has been an issue because Nikon dropped support after Windows Xp and the Mac OS of the same era, but we have set up a 32 bit Windows 7 machine that does the job well enough.
If you scan and then print, as opposed to a full-on wet process, 2 things are essential: i) quality of scan and ii) throughput. The V800 is supplied with the base+1 of SilverFast and is supported by 7, 8.1 and 10.

DerekW
30th December 2018, 09:31 AM
NN


If your 32bit machine dies try using the Vuescan program for driving the Nikon scanner. Vuescan have saved many devices from being junked when driver programs became abandoned.

Bikie John
30th December 2018, 11:34 AM
Yes, I have a Nikon LS9000, but despite the 'Scan Speed' name it takes its time. :)

Software has been an issue because Nikon dropped support after Windows Xp and the Mac OS of the same era, but we have set up a 32 bit Windows 7 machine that does the job well enough.

We're drifting a bit off-topic here, but....

I have a Nikon Coolscan V (aka LS-50) which I believe uses the same driver as the LS-9000. I have it working quite happily on Windows 10 64-bit, and before that on 64-bit Windows 7. From what I remember it took a small bit of juggling to get it to run on 64-bit, I can't remember the details but will dig them out if you are interested. I only had to do this once. There is a further irritation that every time Windows does a big update (about once a year) you have to go through a palaver to persuade Windows that the driver is OK.

I raised a thread about it a couple of weeks back:

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=49387

And as Derek has pointed out above, Vuescan is also a pretty good solution.

Either sounds a better bet to me than maintaining a 32-bit old system, but of course you may feel differently :)

I have also scanned some medium format negs, FP4 (I think) from a Bronica 645, on an Epson V750 and the results were stunning.

John

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 12:14 PM
If you scan and then print, as opposed to a full-on wet process, 2 things are essential: i) quality of scan and ii) throughput. The V800 is supplied with the base+1 of SilverFast and is supported by 7, 8.1 and 10.

I was quite tempted by the V800, (I need a new flatbed scanner anyway), but the reviews I read all spoke about the poor quality of the film carriers Vs the V750.

I have looked online for a V750 but they seem to be like rocking horse doodah, so presumably anyone who owns one is guarding it with their life! :)



I have a Nikon Coolscan V (aka LS-50) which I believe uses the same driver as the LS-9000. I have it working quite happily on Windows 10 64-bit, and before that on 64-bit Windows 7. From what I remember it took a small bit of juggling to get it to run on 64-bit, I can't remember the details but will dig them out if you are interested. I only had to do this once. There is a further irritation that every time Windows does a big update (about once a year) you have to go through a palaver to persuade Windows that the driver is OK.



Yes please. The problem seems to be that Windows refuses to use unsigned drivers, and when we tried to install the Nikon software on both Windows 8.1 and 10 x64 it flatly refused to work. My son tried to install the Nikon software on his Dirty Mac and had the same problems. He said that it would need an earlier Mac OS to work, but that the earlier versions, whilst available, didn't support the newer Apple Mac hardware. You cannot win. :(

I know that things move on, but I really am very disappointed that Nikon should drop software support for very expensive film scanners so soon after selling them.

I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast but wasn't overly impressed with them. Apart from losing hardware features such as ICE I found one of them (I cannot remember which) rather too fussy to use. Plus I couldn't assess the quality of my scans owing to the heavy watermarking.

I actually quite liked the Nikon software for all of its quirks, especially as I can save scanned files in *.NEF format which I can adjust easily in ACR.

We have pressed an otherwise redundant Windows 7 32 bit machine into service for scanning duties, but we are managing it via remote desktop for convenience. Once the *.NEF files have been saved we can edit them on more up to date machines.

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 12:19 PM
I was quite tempted by the V800, (I need a new flatbed scanner anyway), but the reviews I read all spoke about the poor quality of the film carriers Vs the V750.

I have looked online for a V750 but they seem to be like rocking horse doodah, so presumably anyone who owns one is guarding it with their life! :)




Yes please. The problem seems to be that Windows refuses to use unsigned drivers, and when we tried to install the Nikon software on both Windows 8.1 and 10 x64 it flatly refused to work. My son tried to install the Nikon software on his Dirty Mac and had the same problems. He said that it would need an earlier Mac OS to work, but that the earlier versions, whilst available, didn't support the newer Apple Mac hardware. You cannot win. :(

I know that things move on, but I really am very disappointed that Nikon should drop software support for very expensive film scanners so soon after selling them.

I have tried Vuescan and Silverfast but wasn't overly impressed with them. Apart from losing hardware features such as ICE I found one of them (I cannot remember which) rather too fussy to use. Plus I couldn't assess the quality of my scans owing to the heavy watermarking.

I actually quite liked the Nikon software for all of its quirks, especially as I can save scanned files in *.NEF format which I can adjust easily in ACR.

We have pressed an otherwise redundant Windows 7 32 bit machine into service for scanning duties, but we are managing it via remote desktop for convenience. Once the *.NEF files have been saved we can edit them on more up to date machines.
BetterScan offer an alternative:
http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/models/vseries800.html
I've read good reports from users.

Edit: Of interest maybe, Ffordes have a V750 for reasonable money:
https://www.ffordes.com/product/18112112472381

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 12:34 PM
BetterScan offer an alternative:
http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/models/vseries800.html
I've read good reports from users.

Edit: Of interest maybe, Ffordes have a V750 for reasonable money:
https://www.ffordes.com/product/18112112472381

Thanks for those. I will have a look.

I have used Ffordes many times before and trust them. I will give them a call in the morning.

I see the V750 comes with a 6x6 negative holder but I'm not sure if that is a mistake and that it will also take 645 and 6x7.

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 12:45 PM
Park Cameras have the V800 for a tad more at £449, with free delivery. That's new, not second hand, but as you intimated the later Epson neg holders aren't up to much, so the all-up cost would go up if you were to add the Betterscan holders.

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 01:27 PM
Park Cameras have the V800 for a tad more at £449, with free delivery. That's new, not second hand, but as you intimated the later Epson neg holders aren't up to much, so the all-up cost would go up if you were to add the Betterscan holders.

I didn't know about those so thank you again.

Bikie John
30th December 2018, 02:44 PM
Thanks for those. I will have a look.

I have used Ffordes many times before and trust them. I will give them a call in the morning.

I see the V750 comes with a 6x6 negative holder but I'm not sure if that is a mistake and that it will also take 645 and 6x7.

The V750 as supplied came with a holder for film strips of 120 width. There is a setting buried somewhere (in the wrong place, of course) in the Epson driver that let you tell it whether the negs are 6 x 4.5, 6 x 6, 6 x 7, 6 x 8 or 6 x 9. I don't know why it doesn't auto-detect frame boundaries, it seems to quite happily for 35mm.

I will trawl my old notes for more info on getting Nikon Scan to work on 64-bit up-to-date Windows.

John

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 03:00 PM
Park Cameras have the V800 for a tad more at £449, with free delivery. That's new, not second hand, but as you intimated the later Epson neg holders aren't up to much, so the all-up cost would go up if you were to add the Betterscan holders.

Actually the £379 price tag on the [used] V750 shows that these machines are still held in very high regard.

I wonder whether the v750's film holders would work with the V800?

I see Ffordes are also selling a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 for £449, which is not too far short of what they cost new IIRC. There cannot be many digital devices that maintain their value as well as that.

Bikie John
30th December 2018, 03:14 PM
Just out of curiosity I did a trawl for used Coolscan V and found some on eBay for around £500 - which is about what I paid for mine new 20+ years ago.

I've just done some Googling for getting them to work and found this link in a Windows 7 forum, which I think reflects what I did:

https://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/44994-getting-your-nikon-coolscan-work-w7-x64.html

There are two major steps. The first is that you need the driver, which presumably you already have. I think the latest level is 4.0.3. You also need a file called scanners.inf, I'm not a Windows expert but I think this is just to tell the system that it is a scanner. Once you have done this and followed the instruction you are most of the way there. You only need to do this once.

Secondly, you have to persuade Windows to accept the driver, because it has not been "signed". This is a bit of a pain and you have to do it for every major Windows upgrade, but it is not difficult (or too scary).

I hope this helps a bit. I was a bit apprehensive going to Win 10 but as far as I can remember it all worked out nicely and pretty easily.

John

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 04:40 PM
Actually the £379 price tag on the [used] V750 shows that these machines are still held in very high regard.

I wonder whether the v750's film holders would work with the V800?

I see Ffordes are also selling a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 for £449, which is not too far short of what they cost new IIRC. There cannot be many digital devices that maintain their value as well as that.
V700/V750 and V800/V850 have minor changes as far as I'm aware, such as cold cathode v LED. The 8xx's have twin lens but I'm not sure about the 7xx series. Many are happily using the 7xx film holders on the newer version, and are always in demand.

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 04:45 PM
V700/V750 and V800/V850 have minor changes as far as I'm aware, such as cold cathode v LED. The 8xx's have twin lens but I'm not sure about the 7xx series. Many are happily using the 7xx film holders on the newer version, and are always in demand.

That was what I was thinking. ;)

I have a very basic Epson flatbed (V350) that cost about £70 IIRC. It is fine for scanning the odd document but will only scan 35 mm film, and not very well at that. It has been making some horrible noises lately so an update to the V750 would be ideal.

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 04:53 PM
Due to the light source the 7xx series have a longer warm up time.

I'm rather keen to get into Holga 120, and maybe instant film, so a flatbed scanner would be ideal for me. I'm currently using a Plustek 8200i with silverfast Ai and for my 35mm work. Does the job quite well, but it's a bit slow. I've tried using a digital camera to take pictures of the negatives, but the results take on a digital appearance and that rather defeats the purpose of using film.

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 05:08 PM
Due to the light source the 7xx series have a longer warm up time.

The V750 uses a 'Cold cathode fluorescence lamp' (with mercury vapour) so it is a bit slow warming up. My old V350 is the same. The newer scanners use LED's so they are instant.

However, I am not entirely convinced that LED's provide a better light source (in terms of colour rendition) as they do not provide as broad or smooth a spectrum of light as cold cathode lamps.

LED's also tend to exacerbate grain in films far beyond what you can see through a Loupe. This is something I have noticed in my Nikon scanner. There is (or was) a company that made diffusers for LED film scanners for exactly this reason, but I don't think they ever got around to making one of the Nikon 8000 or 9000.

Interestingly, the Minolta MF scanner of the same era (I forget the model number) used a cold cathode lamp as was reckoned to be a better machine for it, even though resolution was lower.

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 05:46 PM
Is life another consideration, Cold Cathode cf LED?

Personally I love to see grain in analogue; I push film and my next trick is to select an appropriate developer to enhance the graininess.

This also reminds me that I should get my Pen F back into action, possibly with a roll of TMax 3200 or Delta 3200.

Otto
30th December 2018, 07:25 PM
Search for “installing unsigned drivers”, there should be plenty of results. You have to dive into bowels of Windows but it’s not difficult. I’m away until Thursday but if you’ve not managed it I can find what I did to get my LS-40 working with Nikon Scan then.

Naughty Nigel
30th December 2018, 08:37 PM
Is life another consideration, Cold Cathode cf LED?

Personally I love to see grain in analogue; I push film and my next trick is to select an appropriate developer to enhance the graininess.

This also reminds me that I should get my Pen F back into action, possibly with a roll of TMax 3200 or Delta 3200.

Steve, the 'grain' created by LED scanners is nothing like film grain, but is a sharper, more crystalline effect; almost as if individual grains of silver are sparkling in the light. It is not pleasant to look at, and is not corrected by gran reducing algorithms in scanning software. It doesn't affect all films by any means, or even entire exposures, (expanses of plain blue sky in colour negative films seem to be most prone), but those films that are affected are spoiled even at low resolution or when reproduced in small sizes.

In answer to your question about 'enhancing' grain in B&W films; the usual trick is to develop the film in a paper developer such as Bromophen. HP5 exposed at 1,600 or 3,200 ASA and developed in Bromophen will produce grain like golf balls with very hard contrast.

Ricoh
30th December 2018, 09:35 PM
Thanks Nigel, I wasn’t aware of the interactions wrt led emissions. I can see further wiki reading heading my way.

Another fun part of film photography is the souping, lots of permutations to discover.

Naughty Nigel
31st December 2018, 03:39 PM
Well, the good news is that I ordered the V750 from Ffordes, and it should arrive before the end of the week.

The bad news is that the original software disk is missing. I can download the Epson software from 'tinternet, but the (highly rated) Silverfast software came on a CD or DVD with a serial number.

Let's see how we get on with the Epson software to begin with.

Apparently Silverfast will provide a download and a new serial number for users who don't have a CD drive, so I might appeal to their generosity.

Bikie John
31st December 2018, 04:10 PM
Well done!

I think I tried Silverfast when I first got the V750, and didn't like it. Probably more down to the interface than anything functional, but I find that the standard Epson Scan utility does everything I want in "Professional" mode.

There is also a utility called Epson Copy which makes it work like a photocopier, which I have found more useful than expected. I never bothered with the other bits of bundled software.

John

Naughty Nigel
31st December 2018, 04:15 PM
Thanks John,
I have used the Epson software on the old V350, and it seems competent enough.

I will certainly give it a good try. :)

Ricoh
31st December 2018, 06:34 PM
Nigel, Silverfast is better than some make out. It is true that the user interface is confusing at first sight, but in reality you need very few selections to get the best out of the negative.

I suspect Silverfast will have a note of your V750 by S/N, so they should be able to confirm the credentials and provide the code to get you up and running. I’ve dealt with the company and usually they’re reasonably quick in response (they’re German after all!).

Naughty Nigel
31st December 2018, 08:31 PM
I suspect Silverfast will have a note of your V750 by S/N, so they should be able to confirm the credentials and provide the code to get you up and running. I’ve dealt with the company and usually they’re reasonably quick in response (they’re German after all!).

Thanks Steve.

I had better do it before 29 March then. ;)

shotokan101
31st December 2018, 11:09 PM
Thanks Steve.

I had better do it before 29 March then. ;) :D

*whack