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Mappy
24th March 2009, 12:39 PM
Hi,

This is my first post on this forum; I am so delighted to find a "UK" E-system focus forum on-line. I have been reading up on everyone’s' experiences and it has definitely been very useful. Hence my post now, I have an E510 but in terms of low light and noise levels it is just not cutting it. Great camera otherwise and a pleasure to use. I do a few gig shots where I need to shot up to an ISO of 1600 (on the E510). The artist (and me) prefer images where no flash has been used so therefore the high ISO is necessary.

For those of you who are fortunate to have both bodies (E3 and E-30), how does the noise levels of both bodies compare in your experience. I am aware of the various test and on-line reviews, but in my limited experience the really test is when using the item in day to day shots and then comparing the results.

I am thinking the E3 out performs the E30, but just want to clarify

Thank-you in advance for your replies

Yorkie
24th March 2009, 12:56 PM
Hi Mappy,

I have also got an E510 and been looking at exactly the same questions.

One element that helped me make my mind up was the fine work of Brian Mosley of the UK Safari Group who has posted this on DPReview:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=31384713

Hope it helps.

I have gone for the EŁ by the way, it is more weighty but being an engineer I like the build quality.

Good luck *chr

EH1
24th March 2009, 01:13 PM
Go for the E-3!!!!!!!!

I have been using E-3`s for over a year, & last week I bought an E-30 & put it straight back in its box & have not used it since because of high noise levels!!!

Im not saying the E-3 is the best camera in the world when it comes to noise, but its better than the E-30 without a doubt.

Mappy
24th March 2009, 01:26 PM
Go for the E-3!!!!!!!!

I have been using E-3`s for over a year, & last week I bought an E-30 & put it straight back in its box & have not used it since because of high noise levels!!!

Im not saying the E-3 is the best camera in the world when it comes to noise, but its better than the E-30 without a doubt.

Thanks. At what ISO level did you really notice the noise on the E-30?

theMusicMan
24th March 2009, 01:33 PM
I don't own and have not used the E-30, but I have used my E-3 up to ISO3200 for gig shots on occasion. OK, some slight noise reduction used, but the results are excellent with minimal noise.

Here's one of Gordon Giltrap in concert.

E-3, ISO3200, handheld, 1/30th @f5.5

http://www.reflectingme.com/img/v3/p356363909.jpg

Chillimonster
24th March 2009, 01:38 PM
John, every time you bring out that shot, i end up putting his album on for a listed...... and i have too much work to do! *livid

:)

theMusicMan
24th March 2009, 01:39 PM
John, every time you bring out that shot, i end up putting his album on for a listed...... and i have too much work to do! *livid

:)Hehe... sorry Chris!!

He was excellent in concert though. Have a listen to "Dodo's Dream"... awesome.

PS: It's on YouTube somewhere.

Chillimonster
24th March 2009, 01:51 PM
Hehe... sorry Chris!!

He was excellent in concert though. Have a listen to "Dodo's Dream"... awesome.

PS: It's on YouTube somewhere.

I have some of his stuff on my iPod for the cool down cycling session at the gym (listen to stuff with a bit more 'punch' for the main part of the session)

Mappy
25th March 2009, 12:20 AM
Thanks John for the image. E3 it is, that is all the proof I need.

theMusicMan
25th March 2009, 08:02 AM
Thanks John for the image. E3 it is, that is all the proof I need.You're welcome Mappy.

Over the last year or two this 'noise business' has all been new to me, but with a combination of thought of composition, lighting, and effective use of the camera, I have found it can be significantly reduced... alas this image (and others where I used ISO1600 and ISO3200 in my Gordon Giltrap (http://www.reflectingme.com/p60835980) gallery too)

Having said that, I still totally lurve the look of images from the D700 at mega mega mega high ISO!!!! :)

*lusts after a D700!!!

Chillimonster
25th March 2009, 09:14 AM
Having said that, I still totally lurve the look of images from the D700 at mega mega mega high ISO!!!! :)

*lusts after a D700!!!


Yeah, but you'd miss the ZD glass soo much :)