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Wally
29th September 2018, 10:47 AM
Where photography is concerned, there is always something left to remind us. Who dares, wins. *yes

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/the-secret-desert-tommies-unseen-images-reveal-for-the-first-time-how-british-troops-joined-lawrence-of-arabia-as-he-famously-led-the-arab-revolt-in-wwi/ar-BBNF0P0?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

Jim Ford
29th September 2018, 02:47 PM
I read an article a long while ago, arguing that the actions of T. E. Lawrence are largely responsible for much of today's problems in the Middle East. I can't remember how the argument went, but I can remember that I found it pretty convincing.

Jim

Wally
29th September 2018, 03:20 PM
Along similar lines, an historic article I read was, that had the politicians of the day - British and French - followed his advice instead of carving things up, many, if not all of the ongoing problems in the Middle East might never have come to pass. Having lived and worked in several ME countries in the 70 & 80's, I was surprised, that for some, he wasn't the ogre he was made out to be? Migh have had something to do with the Hollywood treatment? Seems that where today's politicians are involved, very little has been learned from past mistakes.

You might find this article interesting? --> https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/02/lawrence-middle-east-arabia-sykes-picot-isis-160214123654234.html

Harold Gough
29th September 2018, 07:42 PM
Seems that where today's politicians are involved, very little has been learned from past mistakes.

Isn't the standard educational background for a politician a degree in history and economics?

Harold

Wally
30th September 2018, 07:39 AM
Isn't the standard educational background for a politician a degree in history and economics? Harold

From the shenanigans with our current bunch, I can only presume that the 'standard educational background' has been reduced from degree level to that required of by 5 to 8 year olds. *yes

Which could help explain the phrase 'educated idiots' and, add credence to TM'ssnippet, 'playing at politics'. ;) --> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45696015

To mis-quote part of a famous speech: 'Never have so many been shafted by so few for so much... KERCHING! Just the thought of it makes me :mad: