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Ian
28th September 2018, 10:22 AM
On the Panasonic stand:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/511/P9270423.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/100386)

The irony of this is all too clear as just around the corner was all the full frame Lumix S exhibit :D

And over at Laowa:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/511/P9270405.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/100385)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/511/P9270404.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/100384)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/511/P9270403.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/100383)

Ian

Phill D
28th September 2018, 10:30 AM
4mm! Wow that's nearly a marble :D

Graham_of_Rainham
28th September 2018, 10:32 AM
What’s the FoV of a 4mm lens on mft?

Would you really want pictures that included the top of your head in every shot ;)

Ian
28th September 2018, 10:33 AM
Circular fisheye with 210 degrees field of view. It's been promised since March/April though.

Ian

Zuiko
28th September 2018, 11:03 AM
What’s the FoV of a 4mm lens on mft?

Would you really want pictures that included the top of your head in every shot ;)

Might get burnt-out highlights if it's my head! :D

AMc
28th September 2018, 12:37 PM
Those Laowa lenses are the first thing I've read about from Photokina that I might actually want to buy!
Thanks for the info :)

Ian
28th September 2018, 10:33 PM
Photographed through a rather grubby perspex box, the big 10-15mm f/1.7 PanLeica:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/511/P9280440.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/100426)

77mm filter size!

Ian

alfbranch
6th October 2018, 06:44 PM
The 4mm appeals to me

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drmarkf
7th October 2018, 09:04 AM
Yes, the Panny weight demo makes the point, but is very vulnerable to further criticisms, too.

Not only the geeky rathole about 'equivalence' (which I'm not going near), but more significantly the equating of the 100-300 f4-5.6 with a 600mm f4. Focusing performance of those two for anything moving differs like night and day, so they should have included the 100-400, which does at least enable you to get the shot!

pdk42
7th October 2018, 09:16 AM
That 4mm FE looks very interesting. No interest in their 12mm & 17mm offerings though. I'd miss AF and EXIF data too much, no matter how good the IQ.

That Panasonic 10-25 looks E N O R M O U S.

drmarkf
7th October 2018, 09:30 AM
That 4mm FE looks very interesting. No interest in their 12mm & 17mm offerings though. I'd miss AF and EXIF data too much, no matter how good the IQ.

That Panasonic 10-25 looks E N O R M O U S.

Yes, I agree. Image quality of the 4mm will be crucial so it'll be interesting to see some independent reviews.

I think the 10-25 is really a video lens.

Laowa are great: they had a lovely bunch of Chinese engineers and sales bods on their NEC Photography Show stand in March. There are rumours they're working on a 12mm tilt-shift for MFT...

MikeOxon
7th October 2018, 11:40 AM
I use a 6.5mm Meike fisheye, with a 190 deg. field of view. The 4mm Laowa should have the advantage of projecting a fully circular image on MFT, whereas the Meike (originally designed for APS) is slightly clipped at top and bottom of the frame. This clipping has rarely bothered me, as it usually only cuts plain sky and feet! The image quality of the Meike is very good and the price only £125, so the Laowa will have to be very special to compete.

Jim Ford
7th October 2018, 11:47 AM
Ooo - I like 'wacky' lenses like the fisheye!

Jim