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Jim Ford
16th August 2018, 10:30 PM
It looks like my router is acting up - the power seems to be going up and down. It's an Asus RT-N66U running 'Shibby Tomato'. It seems to have started during the spell of hot weather and I'm wondering if this has affected the transmitter.

I'm toying with buying a Netgear R7000 Nighthawk. Has anyone had any experience with these, please?

Jim

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 07:04 AM
Are there other or new routers nearby? They can often affect WiFi performance. The all-powerful BT devices in particular seem to overpower lesser routers.

I use a Draytek router at present, but have previously used Netgear devices and found them very good.

MJ224
17th August 2018, 07:38 AM
Must admit I fiddled and *arte* with routers for many a year. Eventually gave up and paid for a router supplied by my provider (PlusNet), and have never had a problem since...………….*chr

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 08:00 AM
I installed a free WiFi analyser on my Android phone when we were having problems with WiFi.

This showed that our main WiFi access point was swapping channels with our secondary access point and our neighbour's WiFi every few minutes. At one time channels were set manually but WiFi access points (usually but not always on routers) now select and change channels automatically which can cause problems if there is local channel congestion.

If possible it is worth switching off the older frequencies, (B, C) and using the new higher frequency ranges such as AC as the data rates are higher and there are many more channels available.

I suspect much of the problem is that most people use 'default' settings for WiFi thereby causing conflicts with nearby WiFi systems also set to default.

One of the most annoying is people not adding passwords so that your laptop connects to the neighbours WiFi. There is an easy solution to this; you log on to your neighbours router using the IP address and set a password for them. :D

MJ224
17th August 2018, 08:02 AM
Don't routers from providers come with a password printed on the router itself? Certainly my Plusnet one did, and a handy little card with it on as well...*chr…..

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 08:20 AM
Don't routers from providers come with a password printed on the router itself? Certainly my Plusnet one did, and a handy little card with it on as well...*chr…..

Most routers do come with a password now, but that was not always the case, and there are still a lot of old, unprotected routers out there.

Bizarrely WiFi access points don't come with any password by default, (I think the assumption is that they will be installed by a professional). Many also have a DHCP server installed and enabled by default, which causes some interesting problems (conflicts) if connected to an existing network. :D

Jim Ford
17th August 2018, 08:55 AM
Are there other or new routers nearby? They can often affect WiFi performance. The all-powerful BT devices in particular seem to overpower lesser routers.

Yes, I think that's at least part of the problem. I've tried changing channels, but the routers seem to 'chase' me by changing channels. I've got a range extender somewhere that I'll dig out.


I use a Draytek router at present, but have previously used Netgear devices and found them very good.

I've been looking at reviews for Netgear routers and there are reports of reliability issues.

Jim

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 09:02 AM
I've been looking at reviews for Netgear routers and there are reports of reliability issues.

Jim

Netgear used to be a reliable choice,, but like everything else I suspect they have been cost reduced, sorry, value engineered to hell. :rolleyes: :mad:

I tend to use commercial equipment rather than domestic which isn't as pretty but is usually very reliable.

Most of these devices also have upgradeable firmware which can make a big difference to performance. My Draytek router wouldn't work with our BT Fibre connection for ages, so I stuck with the BT router, but a firmware update about a year ago fixed it.

KeithL
17th August 2018, 09:20 AM
I had exactly the same problem when someone using a series 6 BT router (one of the 300-mere signal ones!) popped up down the road. I talked to Sky about it, and the guy told me how to change channel. He suggested a channel, and it worked perfectly. Then problems started up again. A second BT series 6 router had appeared nearby. So I thought to my self, "this is pointless", and reluctantly connected my router to the computer by ethernet cable. Other than much more global issues, my computer has been fine since. However, my smartphone wouldn't work using WiFi for much of the day. So I turned WiFi off, thus using my 4G connection, and it has been almost trouble free since.

An ethernet cable, Jim, is much cheaper than a new router!

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 09:25 AM
An ethernet cable, Jim, is much cheaper than a new router!

Also mush faster and more secure.

I installed a Gigabit Ethernet network in the house shortly after we moved in, all connected to a patch board and 24 port Netgear switch in the cupboard under the stairs.

We have a relay Wireless Access point on the ceiling upstairs (looks like a smoke detector) powered by PoE.

Jim Ford
17th August 2018, 12:33 PM
An ethernet cable, Jim, is much cheaper than a new router!

Yes, I use one for the W10 PC - but I only use the PC rarely (W10 - ptui, ptui!)

I mostly use a laptop (as I'm doing now) with a wireless connection.

Jim

KeithL
17th August 2018, 01:53 PM
Yes, I use one for the W10 PC - but I only use the PC rarely (W10 - ptui, ptui!)

I mostly use a laptop (as I'm doing now) with a wireless connection.

Jim

Nowt to stop you using an ethernet cable, and unplugging it, when you want to walk around.

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 03:04 PM
I have a blonde sister in law.

She rang one day to ask advice about how to do something on the computer, so sitting at my own PC I went through it with her, step by step. For every instruction that I gave her I heard footsteps fading away, and then coming back again to the 'phone.

Eventually I said that it was a pity that she didn't have a cordless phone as it would save time. There was a long pause until she said, "oh its on my laptop; I suppose I could bring it to the phone." :D

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 03:10 PM
Priceless *chr

John

Yes; she is always a source of amusement at family gatherings.

She reminds me a lot of Alice in the Vicar of Dibley, but she isn't as sharp minded. :D

wornish
17th August 2018, 03:27 PM
Quite a few years ago my wife came in and said she thinks she has a flat tyre on her car. But its only flat at the bottom so is it OK to drive.

I won't let her forget she asked that question.

KeithL
17th August 2018, 03:55 PM
When cars had a choke to pull out, some makers made the first half inch or so of its trade do nothing, because so many women pulled it out a bit to hang their handbag on it.

Otto
17th August 2018, 04:01 PM
A secretary I once worked with decided to check the air in the car tyres one lunchtime. She connected the hose and pressed the fill button. She didn't understand tyre pressures so she kept the button pressed until the tyre was "full" i.e. she couldn't hear the air going in any more. Three of the tyres burst on the way back to the office - no more than a mile :D. Then there was the secretary who would photocopy documents before sending them - by fax!!


I had a TPLink router for a while which worked pretty well, and I still use a TPLink USB wi-fi dongle on this pc.

KeithL
17th August 2018, 04:05 PM
One of our secretaries wasn't very tall, even wearing her 4 inch stilettos. The snag was, one day, a heel went down into a gap in the floor, and she was stuck there. Someone had to almost lift her out of the shoe - it bent her foot so much, she couldn't get it out of the shoe unaided. Didn't stop her wearing them, though.

KeithL
17th August 2018, 04:13 PM
Nothing except defeating the whole idea of having a laptop in the first place :confused:

John

Well, if the router is prevented from working by interference by a more powerful one, then surely it's better to use a temporary ethernet cable than having a laptop that can't receive/send emails, etc?

Jim Ford
17th August 2018, 04:17 PM
We had a goldfish where we used to live, and the next door neighbour also had one. The neighbour was puzzled by the water in the tank going down, and asked my wife, "Does your goldfish drink a lot of water?"

(Her mother was Irish and whenever she got into a car she used to cross herself! How would you feel if you were the driver?)

Jim

Otto
17th August 2018, 04:38 PM
I once set fire to the chip pan in my flat, many years ago. The next time I visited my parents my mother asked if I would like their fire extinguisher as "we never use it".

Naughty Nigel
17th August 2018, 05:44 PM
When our children were young I was pressganged into joining the primary school PTA, or PTFA I think they call it now. I offered to put together some publicity material and guides for the school which I printed and bound myself.

The Landlord of one of our local pubs was parent to three girls at the school, so at my suggestion we held our meetings in the Snug. The only downside was that I was the only man.

Anyhow, during one of the meetings there was a lengthy discussion about the village fayre, and how the PTFA were going to sell donated goods from a stall on the village green to raise funds. All well and good. Then came an idea that if it was a hot day they could sell ice cream, but there were numerous logistical challenges, including the fact that parking near to the stall would be impossible and that it was essential to keep the ice cream cold.

Gradually the ladies hatched a cunning plan that they would buy the ice cream and some wafers, store the ice cream in someone's freezer, and then on receiving a phone message one of them would drive the supplies to the village green and somebody else would grab them from the car. It was all very complicated.

I had just about finished my first pint of Guinness and to be honest wasn't paying much attention, so I went to the Bar and ordered another. The Barman took his time but by the time I returned to the meeting the ladies were still discussing logistics in between complaining about men!

The discussion was going round in circles so I interjected: 'I don't know whether I am missing something here, but rather than storing the ice cream in a freezer half a mile away why don't we just buy it from the Co-op as and when we need it'. (The Co-op is literally 50 Yards away on the other side of the road.)

There was a stunned silence; jaws dropped; and then one of the ladies said 'oh that's a good idea; why didn't we think of that?' :eek: :D