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grumpy69
11th March 2009, 08:37 PM
I am ready to invest into a bigger lense but not sure which one, it will be needed for action shots, motorsport, horse jumping etc, I use a E-520 with the intension of getting an E3 at some point, at the moment I have a 14-54 lense which I love thanks to good advise from you guy, any more advise welcome. John

DerekC
11th March 2009, 09:07 PM
I have both Sigma 50-500 and 50-200SWD. I would choose the 50-200 every time for Motorsport the faster aperture really matters. The focus speed is faster with the 50-200. 1.4 converter can be used and only lose one stop.

Derek C

HughofBardfield
12th March 2009, 02:14 PM
If you want to photograph fast-moving action, I would go with the faster lens everytime. I have the old money 50-200 and the Sigma 135-400, and the 50-200 (sometimes with the 1.4 converter) gets much more use. A 35mm equivalent of 560mm gives you a lot of reach...

photo_owl
12th March 2009, 03:02 PM
I have seen some excellent motorcycle racing shots with the 50-500 but in general you will always want more light with the 50-200 so the 50-500's speed just kills it in general use.

To put that in perspective I have never had enough light to feel confident with the 50-200 + ec20 when shooting sports, the ec14 gets a reasonable amount of use and the balance is lens alone

grumpy69
12th March 2009, 06:32 PM
Thank you all for your help it sounds a little 50/50 at the moment, I was talking to chillimonster today and he recommends the 50-200, and he misses the olympus lense quality.

andym
12th March 2009, 07:28 PM
Hi Grumpy

I have both lenses and although I can get very good results with the Bigma I would not want to carry it for too long.
I carry the 50-200 all the time,its much faster,the Bigma really needs to be stoped down to F8 to get it sharp.
Also the 50-200 is sealed for use in bad weather.

Hope this helps.

j.baker
12th March 2009, 07:31 PM
I have both the 50-200 and the 50-500mm lenses.

The 50-200 is a much better lens. I regret purchasing the 50-500mm, as I hardly ever use it.

You could also try the 70-00mm (if you do not already own one)

mike_j
12th March 2009, 07:47 PM
I am in great need of a good 500mm lens. I visit out nature reserve a lot but there is no option to get close to the birds, hide locations are fixed and the birds are rarely close enough to get really high quality shots. OK'ish record shots no problem.

I have a decent 350mm Tamron lens, an elderly basic 'long tom' 400mm and a Tamron mirror 500mm. The Tamron is just about long enough but the quality is moderate and I hate the bokeh. With the x2 extender it is unacceptably poor.

What would be a good enough lens to opt for - not less than 500mm 5.6 I think, 1000 max?

andym
12th March 2009, 08:04 PM
Mike

This is the kind of quality you can get with the Sigma 50-500mm

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P1299162.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=12290)

This is f8 at 449mm.

It is F6.3 at the long end but performs much better at f8.

grumpy69
12th March 2009, 08:56 PM
Thanks I am sure after all the comments the 50-200 is the one, I am sure the 50-500 is a good lense but although the zoom would be great I think the weight and the slow focus would be a problem, thanks again. John

David M
13th March 2009, 12:14 AM
I am in great need of a good 500mm lens. I visit out nature reserve a lot but there is no option to get close to the birds, hide locations are fixed and the birds are rarely close enough to get really high quality shots. OK'ish record shots no problem.

I have a decent 350mm Tamron lens, an elderly basic 'long tom' 400mm and a Tamron mirror 500mm. The Tamron is just about long enough but the quality is moderate and I hate the bokeh. With the x2 extender it is unacceptably poor.

What would be a good enough lens to opt for - not less than 500mm 5.6 I think, 1000 max?

As someone who's been using long lenses for a couple of decades there's a few lenses that come to mind.

The screw mount EBC Fujinon 600mm f5.6 is a rare but good lens. It's external focus so a bit of a pain to use compared to an internal focus lens but the sample I had was sharp enough although had some CA.

Then there's the more exotic but much more common MF Nikkor 600mm f5.6 IFED. Good close focussing, sharp and being internal focus easier to use. There was a few of these converted to OM mount for photographers who used the OM system and needed a good long lens.

I don't know if there's a mount adapter for 4/3 to Canon FD but there was a Canon 500mm f4.5 that was well regarded. My experience of them was that after a lot of use the backlash in the IF mechanism became annoying but you got used to it.

Having listed the above, the lens I'd like to try on a 4/3 body if the MF Nikkor 400mm f3.5. I never used one in my film shooting days but it was reported to be sharper than the 600mm and it's a stop and a third faster. And of course it has the FOV of an 800mm on 4/3.

There was a matched Nikkor 1.4x tele-converter for the 600mm and the 400mm although I don't remember what model it was.

minven
19th March 2009, 08:52 PM
There's a sigma 50-500mm on ebay now. finishing in an hour or so.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300300489842&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=&salenotsupported

If the price is right I think it will make up your mind :D