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Harold Gough
8th March 2017, 11:09 AM
I thought it was not a good idea to bury this in the software forum.

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/accessory_reviews/noise-reduction-software-test-100814?utm_campaign=20170307-qap-x-nwl-tw-amateurphotographer-08-03-2017&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=20170307_QAP-X_NWL_TW_AmateurPhotographer&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua

Of these, I have Topaz, Nik and Adobe Camera RAW (In PS). I have not done much with the Nik and nothing with ACR, being very happy with the Topaz DeNoise6.

The article makes comments about only working on TIFFs. I am not aware that my RAW files are converted to TIFFs at any stage before being saved as JPEGs.

Harold

steverh
8th March 2017, 12:03 PM
I am now using DxO Optics Pro. It works very well as a raw processor for ORFs and the PRIME noise reduction is superb. Any subsequent editing required is done in Affinity Photo.

drmarkf
8th March 2017, 01:35 PM
Thanks for posting that, but you may have cost me money...

My workflow currently includes Capture One pro as raw processor and the Nik bundle, including Dfine2 when noise is intrusive, with occasional forays in to PS Elements. Since I do a lot of low light street shooting I do use Dfine fairly often, although the native tools in CO aren't bad. I regularly use TIFFs to move between the applications, so that's not an issue for me.

On the Sony forums there have been some highly impressive results posted with DxO, often in its stand-alone mode since a lot of Sony shooters use CO because it's given away with the cameras. The retention of detail seems very good indeed and the resulting images look more natural than seems easily possible with the Nik product.

I have been seriously considering getting it purely as a de-noiser: I'd say it's expensive for most people, but for someone trying to specialize in low light work, and for some sports etc, if looks better value. I've got no intention of ditching CO since I've used it for the best part of 10 years now (but if they moved to a subscription-only model I would review that decision and DxO seems OK as a raw processor in general).

drmarkf
8th March 2017, 01:49 PM
BTW I see that Prime won't work with Fuji X70 raw files, which is a bit of a pain.

Presumably until they implement it I could work around via TIFFs, but perhaps with inferior NR?

Naughty Nigel
8th March 2017, 02:15 PM
The article makes comments about only working on TIFFs. I am not aware that my RAW files are converted to TIFFs at any stage before being saved as JPEGs.

Harold

Your images will usually be converted direct from raw files to Jpegs unless you use an intermediate format such as PSD, which I do.

I suspect the use of TIFF files is recommended to avoid the losses associated with Jpeg compression. This is good practice, but in my experience Jpeg losses are so small that there is no noticeable effect provided that high quality/low compression is selected, and the file is only saved once or twice. That might be different if the file is opened and re-saved many times.

Naughty Nigel
8th March 2017, 02:16 PM
BTW I see that Prime won't work with Fuji X70 raw files, which is a bit of a pain.

Presumably until they implement it I could work around via TIFFs, but perhaps with inferior NR?

Do Adobe still provide their free DNG converter?

If so you could process the files in an older version of Photoshop.

drmarkf
8th March 2017, 02:32 PM
Do Adobe still provide their free DNG converter?

If so you could process the files in an older version of Photoshop.

I'd only need the NR module to begin with and until/if CO changed their payment model. DxO must be working on implementing Fuji compatibility (if not, they must be mad!).

Harold Gough
8th March 2017, 03:05 PM
Thanks for posting that, but you may have cost me money...

Don't expect a contribution, after the couple of weeks I've had. :mad: :)

Harold

shenstone
8th March 2017, 08:13 PM
if you don't believe their review of DXO try these which are ISO 1600 on an E620 - I'm a complete convert

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43628

Graham_of_Rainham
8th March 2017, 08:50 PM
Do Adobe still provide their free DNG converter?

If so you could process the files in an older version of Photoshop.

Yes! It is what I suggest to people who do not want to pay for CC and have an older version of PS.

I use DxO Optics Pro for the majority of my RAW processing as the micro contrast is excellent for the very fine details of subjects such as lace.

*chr

steverh
8th March 2017, 08:58 PM
if you don't believe their review of DXO try these which are ISO 1600 on an E620 - I'm a complete convert

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43628

That's a great result, Andy. With modern software like DXO, the days of obsessing about differences in high ISO handling due to sensor size are effectively over.

PeterBirder
8th March 2017, 10:02 PM
I'm another dedicated Dxo Optics Pro user. I've been using it since version 6 and never found anything to better it for my needs.

drmarkf
8th March 2017, 10:47 PM
... the days of obsessing about differences in high ISO handling due to sensor size are effectively over.

Pssssst! Don't tell anyone on any full frame forum on dpreview :D

I'll see if they've got any special offers at the NEC.

shotokan101
9th March 2017, 12:22 PM
Did everyone spot this the other week ?

https://www.dpreview.com/news/4139888330/grab-a-free-copy-of-dxo-opticspro-9-while-you-can?ref_=pe_1674010_132618830

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/dxo-optics-pro-9-software-review-24436

Jim

shotokan101
9th March 2017, 12:34 PM
BTW - ignore the February deadline - I've just checked and it still works - just enter your email address using the link in the article

por just use thuis

http://www.dxo.com/us/digitalcamerauk

Jim

Harold Gough
11th March 2017, 11:55 AM
BTW - ignore the February deadline - I've just checked and it still works - just enter your email address using the link in the article

I downloaded and installed mine this morning. Impressive functions!

Harold

shotokan101
11th March 2017, 12:30 PM
I downloaded and installed mine this morning. Impressive functions!

Harold

Yes - not bad for a Freebie I think as long as you don't have a super new model

Jim

PeterBirder
11th March 2017, 03:41 PM
As always you can download a free 30 day trial of the fully functional latest version (11) here.http://www.dxo.com/us/download/dxo-opticspro

At the end of the 30 days it will still work but put a watermark on your images.

Regards.*chr*chr

Harold Gough
11th March 2017, 03:57 PM
As always you can download a free 30 day trial of the fully functional latest version (11) here.http://www.dxo.com/us/download/dxo-opticspro

At the end of the 30 days it will still work but put a watermark on your images.

Regards.*chr*chr

Not if you enter the Key Code provided in the email to you from the original link:

http://www.dxo.com/us/digitalcamerauk

Harold

PeterBirder
11th March 2017, 04:39 PM
Not if you enter the Key Code provided in the email to you from the original link:

http://www.dxo.com/us/digitalcamerauk

Harold

That wasn't what I was suggesting, they are two separate things.

The original link gets you a free copy of an older version (9) and the link I gave is the one that enables you to download a trial of the current (11) version.

If you down load the trial you have the option to then buy that version at any time. When you make a payment for that they will send you a Key Code to turn the trial into a fully licenced copy. You don't need a Key Code for the trial but every time you use the trial it will tell you how many free days you have left and invite you to input a Key Code if you have made the purchase.

Regards.*chr