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pandora
13th November 2016, 10:41 PM
Tina, my eldest, (R) took this of herself and Salina with her twin lens Huawei P9 smart phone. Please note that this image was sent to me as a text message which I've posted from my phone. I want a HUAWEI P9!
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/PART_1479181374799.jpeg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto/photo/91207)

Salina & I got out seconds before it rained​ at 8:30am yesterday. Salina's alter ego came to the fore :D
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Pine_Valley1em.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/91190)
Our "old" phonecams have been completely outclassed by the Huawei P9 that my eldest daughter Tina just bought. All these were shot Galaxies, S5 & S6
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Pine_Valley2em.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/91190)

Phonecams are light and great for walking, excellent W/A and closeups but their digital zooms are no better than their 100% crops. They also provide security in case of injury.
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Harold Gough
14th November 2016, 06:38 AM
Annoyingly good results!

Harold

Phill D
14th November 2016, 08:22 AM
Yes they are amazingly good these days. Still need an accomplished operator though. Nice shots Mark.

OM USer
14th November 2016, 12:35 PM
If you pick youir shots carefully and have lots of light then phones can do really well in the right hands... plus of course you tend to always have it with you.

pandora
14th November 2016, 05:59 PM
Harold, Phill, OM - I can't but wonder what effect phone cams have had on the camera market and whether we'll soon see camera manufacturers entering the smartphone business!

I don't think shooting good images with a phone requires any particular skill aside from an ability to frame an interesting subject reasonably well. It's simply a matter of point & shoot and the phone takes care of the settings - they require no more light than any other camera - the damned things are infallible.

I've been taking photos obsessively since I was twelve, for almost 70 years until last Christmas when I realised I had developed second finger fatigue. ;) So nowadays instead of chasing sunsets and super moon shots I'm content to just dabble away my days at an easel with a brush in one hand and a glass of old port in the other ! *chr

pandora
14th November 2016, 06:08 PM
O yes, forgot to mention that if the IQ isn't up to OMD standard then as a possible reference for painting it matters not a jot to me. *shrug

Mrs T
14th November 2016, 09:22 PM
Well Mark, I have to agree with you and Lightroom reveals almost 50:50 iPhone and OM-D shots. I use my phone lots for keepsake shots, and BBC Weather Watchers. It's earned me half a dozen editor's picks, and two shots on the tele one day last week.

I hope you don't mind me posting them below. If you do I'll remove them.

Amanda

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0282.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0383.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0424.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0435.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0470.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0451.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_0455.jpg

pandora
14th November 2016, 11:09 PM
You're welcome Amanda. Your autumn is our spring.

DerekW
15th November 2016, 10:22 AM
Amanda - does the Beeb email you to tell you that your pics are to appear on the weather forecast - or do you just have to wait for the cheque to arrive,

AMc
15th November 2016, 11:10 AM
... and whether we'll soon see camera manufacturers entering the smartphone business!

Not long ;)
http://www.kodak.com/consumer/products/ektra/default.htm

Beagletorque
15th November 2016, 05:34 PM
Did you use the iPhone to take the picture of your iPhone picture on the telly? :D

Mrs T
15th November 2016, 09:22 PM
You're welcome Amanda. Your autumn is our spring.

Thanks Mark! *chr

Amanda - does the Beeb email you to tell you that your pics are to appear on the weather forecast - or do you just have to wait for the cheque to arrive,

Hi DerekW. No they don't. We normally have the local news on and I do stop and watch the forecast from the kitchen. When I saw my picture I was a touch excited and yelled "my picture is on the tele"! Mr T was a touch annoyed as I gave him a fright!!! :mad: The second one I happened across when looking at Facebook.

Amanda

Mrs T
15th November 2016, 09:23 PM
Did you use the iPhone to take the picture of your iPhone picture on the telly? :D

Yep! It was the closest to hand! ;)

pandora
16th November 2016, 07:40 PM
Not long ;)http://www.kodak.com/consumer/products/ektra/default.htm

Certainly not as long as this 2 mile long goods train shot yesterday with my phone. What a bummer I missed the engine!

When I think of all the dosh I've spent on cameras *cameraicon *cameraicon *cameraicon over the years .... *cameraicon *cameraicon *cameraicon *shrug *cameraicon *cameraicon *cameraicon
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/How_long.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/91218)

iso
17th November 2016, 06:53 PM
all copyrights acknowledged. This graph seen on the Mirrorless Rumours site from ‘Statista’.
An interesting snap shot of our times? The point being made by the graph, is that ‘regular’ digital camera body shipments have rapidly declined from a high in 2010. (Note 2016 data is only half year), and that this is attributed to the growth in quality & quantity of good smartphone ‘camera’ facilities.
Not sure the two are necessarily linked? …..ok you see a lot more people taking ‘pics’ on phones but have they switched equipment, or are newbie’s taking pics because it’s easy on something they use for something else (phoning people, internet connections etc.)? And did we used to see a similar great number of people using ‘point and shoot’ cameras? No.
The stats suggest a bigger decline in percentage market share of ‘point and shoot’, compared with interchangeable lens stuff. That would support the smartphone theory. But just look at the overall decline in camera shipments:eek::eek::eek:

pandora
17th November 2016, 09:42 PM
iso - I suspect the trend is as the graph shows. My daughters and I have drawers full of now unsalable cameras and lenses, now laid to rest. The neat thing about phonecams is that one surrenders the necessity to think in exchange for a constant companion that does it all for you, and keeps you in touch with the world!

iso
18th November 2016, 04:29 PM
iso - I suspect the trend is as the graph shows. My daughters and I have drawers full of now unsalable cameras and lenses, now laid to rest. The neat thing about phonecams is that one surrenders the necessity to think in exchange for a constant companion that does it all for you, and keeps you in touch with the world!

And they do seem to produce pics that have a lot of spontaneity. (Nice Train by the way )

Otto
18th November 2016, 04:48 PM
Amanda - does the Beeb email you to tell you that your pics are to appear on the weather forecast - or do you just have to wait for the cheque to arrive,

They never told me they'd published this one (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34507102) (top pic) - and I'm still awaiting the cheque! :rolleyes:

I think the E-M5 MkI did pretty well there considering it was a grab shot. The effect was largely gone a few seconds later.

pandora
19th November 2016, 06:33 PM
And they do seem to produce pics that have a lot of spontaneity. (Nice Train by the way )

Spontaneity is the essence of a phonecam. It is so often in the palm of one's hand ready for the unexpected photo op, as was the case with the train.

iso
19th November 2016, 06:45 PM
Spontaneity is the essence of a phonecam. It is so often in the palm of one's hand ready for the unexpected photo op, as was the case with the train.

Oh so true - so are we all Doomed :(- actually I have never used a phone cam but then I am a Dinosaur :confused:
Also am with you about drawers full of unsalable junk. :mad:

Mrs T
19th November 2016, 09:33 PM
They never told me they'd published this one (http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/34507102) (top pic) - and I'm still awaiting the cheque! :rolleyes:

I think the E-M5 MkI did pretty well there considering it was a grab shot. The effect was largely gone a few seconds later.

Ohh! Lucky you! That would be lots of Cloud Spotting Points!

pandora
20th November 2016, 01:23 AM
Oh so true - so are we all Doomed :(- actually I have never used a phone cam but then I am a Dinosaur :confused:
Also am with you about drawers full of unsalable junk. :mad:
Phonecams are for every day anytime shots. They get better and better, the HuweiP9 has new twin lens technology delivering breathtaking IQ. As said, my daughter has one.

drmarkf
20th November 2016, 09:45 AM
Yes, I'm strongly tempted to choose a subject with care and process it 'artfully' and see how an iPhone 6 file goes in one of our (very traditional) local camera club competitions.

I don't believe a camera phone image has ever been entered, let alone been awarded even a Commended, but its only a matter of time.

I'd also really like to try cinematography - I've seen some really wonderful, subtle implementations in exhibitions at, say, the Photographers Gallery, but I'm not sure how the British Club Photography establishment would cope...

iso
20th November 2016, 05:51 PM
Yes, I'm strongly tempted to choose a subject with care and process it 'artfully' and see how an iPhone 6 file goes in one of our (very traditional) local camera club competitions.

I don't believe a camera phone image has ever been entered, let alone been awarded even a Commended, but its only a matter of time.

I'd also really like to try cinematography - I've seen some really wonderful, subtle implementations in exhibitions at, say, the Photographers Gallery, but I'm not sure how the British Club Photography establishment would cope...

Go for it Mark - GO GO GO (and let us all know the result). :DMind you I guess you could get Blackballed *yes

pandora
21st November 2016, 07:38 PM
Yes, I'm strongly tempted to choose a subject with care and process it 'artfully' and see how an iPhone 6 file goes in one of our (very traditional) local camera club competitions.

I don't believe a camera phone image has ever been entered, let alone been awarded even a Commended, but its only a matter of time.

I'd also really like to try cinematography - I've seen some really wonderful, subtle implementations in exhibitions at, say, the Photographers Gallery, but I'm not sure how the British Club Photography establishment would cope...
That indeed would be an interesting exercise. You could always fake the mega data to make it appear to have been shot with your Oly ;) *susp

At the time of its launch a little over a year ago I bought an iPhone6 around the same time that a good friend of mine bought a Galaxy6. For differing reasons we were both disappointed with our respective devices and as the price of each was almost identical we agreed to a clean swap. I soon realised I had made a terrible mistake as the Galaxy's functions are less stable than the iPhone's causing me a great deal of angst ever since. The only compensation was the Galaxy's infinitely superior 16 megapixels camera with 64MB of memory compared to the iPhone's 8 megapixels camera and 16MB of memory. But my daughter's new Huawei-P9 (http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p9-7972.php) with its incredible twin lens technology and impressive specs leaves all in its wake.

tomphotofx
22nd November 2016, 03:51 PM
Nice images Mark these smart phones are getting better and better some even deliver a raw image too.

Tom

iso
22nd November 2016, 06:33 PM
Any one had dealings with these 'clip-on' lenses for phones?

pandora
25th November 2016, 07:13 AM
Nice images Mark these smart phones are getting better and better some even deliver a raw image too. Tom
Tom - I can't see phone cameras as ever likely to entirely usurp the dslr or mirrorless camera as their limiting feature is their non-optical zoom. More likely it is that happy snappers will abandon their Olys and Canikons leaving those devices to pros and the true believers - and I must confess that at this point in my life I number among them.