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Minniesmum
29th January 2016, 07:44 PM
Perhaps I'm being cynical but have been through all this stuff in the 60's and 70's. All the hippie jargon- back to the land, esoteric stuff. Well we thought it was !
ok- the latest trendy words:

Minimalism- it's like- get shot of all your rubbish- if you haven't used it in the past 6 months you never will.
Mindfullness- think before you open your Gob to avoid screwing your life up.
Synchronicity- meaningfull co-incidences:rolleyes:
And the one that really grates on me- " Going Off-Grid "- it won't happen pet ;)

I refer back to my dog-eared copy of the 1971 Last Whole Earth Catalogue. It's ALL been done before.....

- signing off as " Grumpy Old Woman " :):D*chr

Imageryone
29th January 2016, 09:09 PM
Alternatives :-

Minimalism- The new Pen F
Mindfulness - too much Facebook
Synchronicity - Double exposure
Going off grid - Forgot to pay the electric bill

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 12:18 AM
Of course it's all been done before. But there are a whole new bunch of graduates fresh out of university working in Marquetry (marketing) and PR, who need to convince the world that they have new ideas and fresh ways of doing things that will change our lives forever and make us complete.

Oh, and just in case you wondered, "it's because we're worth it."

Sadly far too many people fall for this carp, which is probably why we spend far more on ourselves than we should, or can afford.

Oddly enough, some companies that make obscene profits from doing things differently for the sake of it. After all, why retain things like standard headphone jacks in mobile phones when you can make even more profit by forcing gullible customers to buy expensive new headphones and other accessories? :mad:

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 06:07 AM
How can anyone with GAS be a Minimalist ?;)
I like it- " going off- Grid "- forgot to pay the Leccie bill"- tee-hee :)

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 12:09 PM
Of course if we take a helicopter view we soon realise that corporate buzz-phrases are nothing new. Indeed, I have come across odious individuals who seem to have the ability to hold entire conversations using such phrases; the downside being that nobody actually understands what they are saying!

Rather like the English language, buzz-phrases are constantly evolving; but given the lack of imagination amongst the guilty parties it is hardly surprising that these phrases tend to be recycled, sorry, reinvented with monotonous regularity.

However, when it comes to the phrase 'going off grid' I am never sure whether this means becoming disconnected from the internet, mains electricity and so forth, or whether it simply means going off of the map? :confused:

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 02:11 PM
However, when it comes to the phrase 'going off grid' I am never sure whether this means becoming disconnected from the internet, mains electricity and so forth, or whether it simply means going off of the map? :confused:

I believe that technically " off-grid " means not connected to the National grid for electricity. So I guess having one's own generator as in wind-power and-or solar panels. However have heard the term used also in relation to being self-sufficient regards food by either growing your own or foraging- neither of which are possible all year year round of course- unless you live somewhere tropical !

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 02:15 PM
However have heard the term used also in relation to being self-sufficient regards food by either growing your own or foraging- neither of which are possible all year year round of course- unless you live somewhere tropical !

... Or you have a very large freezer, which would require being connected to the National Grid! :D

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 02:21 PM
... Or you have a very large freezer, which would require being connected to the National Grid! :D
Exactly ! Which is why it can never work in reality ;) will leave the " nouveau Hippies" to dream on tho :)

Harold Gough
30th January 2016, 02:28 PM
I suspect that "going off the grid" has the same origins as "back to square one" The grid was of a football pitch and was published in Radio Times in the 1920s to enable commentators to tell radio listeners where the action currently was.

In other words, it meant "out of touch". I will resist temptation!

Harold

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 02:36 PM
I love Leccie :) also love the outdoors and wild-camping, but sometimes one feels the need to go on EHU. Best of both worlds :)

DerekW
30th January 2016, 05:32 PM
I met an "off the grid ' person last October, they lived just outside of Show Low in Arizona, they had Solar panels - storing spare electricity in batteries, internet via Satellite and endless supply of fire wood (they lived in a forested mountainous area). They had a well and small waste/toilet system.

I think that they had to drive a bit to get Cell phone coverage (mobile phone to us Brits) but then in the UK reliable cell phone coverage would also be a luxury <g>

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 05:58 PM
I met an "off the grid ' person last October, they lived just outside of Show Low in Arizona, they had Solar panels - storing spare electricity in batteries, internet via Satellite and endless supply of fire wood (they lived in a forested mountainous area). They had a well and small waste/toilet system.

I think that they had to drive a bit to get Cell phone coverage (mobile phone to us Brits) but then in the UK reliable cell phone coverage would also be a luxury <g> I'm sure it can be done however you need a fair bit of cash investment to set everything up to start with. Heat by firewood means installing a wood furnace or stove with flu, solar panels aren't cheap. Arizona has long, very cold winters and I guess you would need to get supplies in and use a freezer for food. Many folk in my native Nova Scotia have petrol powered generators as back-up so I guess you could use one of those to generate leccie for a freezer, etc.

Harold Gough
30th January 2016, 06:02 PM
I'm sure it can be done however you need a fair bit of cash investment to set everything up to start with. Heat by firewood means installing a wood furnace or stove with flu, solar panels aren't cheap. Arizona has long, very cold winters and I guess you would need to get supplies in and use a freezer for food. Many folk in my native Nova Scotia have petrol powered generators as back-up so I guess you could use one of those to generate leccie for a freezer, etc.

If it is so cold in winter, why don't they store frozen food outside, as they do in the far north, and save power?

Harold

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 06:03 PM
internet via Satellite

Doesn't that rather defeat the object? :confused:

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 06:06 PM
Doesn't that rather defeat the object? :confused: that's what I thought......

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 06:08 PM
If it is so cold in winter, why don't they store frozen food outside, as they do in the far north, and save power?

Harold

Do you mean Co. Durham? *???

We have done that many times when the fridge has been full at Christmas. :D

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 06:30 PM
Do you mean Co. Durham? *???

We have done that many times when the fridge has been full at Christmas. :D
Ditto here in Teeside ;)

DerekW
30th January 2016, 07:20 PM
Off grid does not mean living in a yurt or tent - it means living in a part of the world where you want to live.

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 07:44 PM
Off grid does not mean living in a yurt or tent - it means living in a part of the world where you want to live. the definition of " off-grid" is different for everyone. There is no fixed definition other than the reference to grid which generally refers to the national grid or mains electric :)

Minniesmum
30th January 2016, 08:53 PM
btw I started this thread as a bit of tongue in cheek fun. I guess I thought the " Lounge" was meant not to be taken too seriously......

Naughty Nigel
30th January 2016, 10:19 PM
Off grid does not mean living in a yurt or tent - it means living in a part of the world where you want to live.

Which I do; although we have internet, mains gas and electricity! :)

There are other parts oft he world that I would like to live in; not all of which are within the United Kingdom, but being mortal I can only be in one place at a time. :rolleyes:

Harold Gough
31st January 2016, 09:32 AM
Do you mean Co. Durham? *???

We have done that many times when the fridge has been full at Christmas. :D

There are fewer bears to steal it than e.g. Canada.

Although freezing was not an issue, we had to be careful where we put our sprouts-on-the-stalk outside, to keep them fresh for Christmas, as we get deer visiting our garden most nights.

Harold

Imageryone
31st January 2016, 10:14 AM
btw I started this thread as a bit of tongue in cheek fun. I guess I thought the " Lounge" was meant not to be taken too seriously......
And so it is, we just get a bit sidetracked when the occasion demands :D:D:D

Another use of " off the grid " - invisible to official government eyes. :):):)