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TClement
1st December 2015, 08:26 PM
I would like to purchase the Zuiko Digital ED 12-14mm 1:2.8 Pro Lens but the price is out of my range. :mad: The important part is the 2.8 aperture.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a Legacy lens or some other option with a much lower price tag.
I am using the E-10

Thanks

JonSchick
1st December 2015, 08:54 PM
Hi - I wonder if there is a typo in your message - do you mean 12-40? And presumably E-M10?

If the f2.8 aperture is important there are some good legacy alternatives but only if you are happy with manual focus or pedestrian autofocus (unless you are prepared to get the E-M1 which sorts that issue out quite nicely by being able to autofocus legacy glass rather well).

The most obvious lens is the Olympus Zuiko Four thirds 14-54 f2.8-3.5 (preferably mk ii for faster AF) and you could also consider the 12-60 although that tends to be more expensive. Either of them would be quite large on the E-M10 body though.

If you really did mean 12-14mm, then I have an 11-22 Four Thirds lens for sale on this forum, which is also f2.8-3.5, and a lovely lens to use (but I'm going with the typo theory!).

Kiwi Paul
1st December 2015, 09:14 PM
You may be able to pick up a pre loved Lumix 12-35 lens, they are excellent and have been out a few years now, a few pre loved ones might be about for a reasonable price, cira 350 -400.

Paul

Greytop
1st December 2015, 11:37 PM
If you're on a budget I would plump for a 14-54 (Ideally MK2) and a MMF(1, 2 or 3) adapter, make sure it's a genuine Olympus one.

TClement
2nd December 2015, 05:11 PM
Thanks to all - yes my blooper - I did mean 12-40 and I do have a OMD-E10.

Will look around with these suggestions.

Tim

Ricoh
2nd December 2015, 05:47 PM
Personally I don't see the attraction of a zoom lens, and f2.8 isn't all that fast.
Have you considered something like a Panny 1:1.7/15mm (theres one for sale on the forum for silly money) and an Oly 1:1.8/45mm, again dead cheap. Both are brilliant lenses and more or less cover the focal range. If you have a 25 prime already, you're good for most shooting, plus you're getting much more light.

TClement
2nd December 2015, 08:25 PM
I do have the M45/1.8 - great lens but too narrow for some of my work.

Got me thinking . . . . .:rolleyes:

Tim

JonSchick
2nd December 2015, 09:09 PM
Tim - it's my 15mm lens that is on offer here for "silly money" and it would be a brilliant accompaniment to the 45mm (the only thing is, the build quality is in a different stratosphere - the Lumix lens is stunning.

Ricoh
2nd December 2015, 09:21 PM
Tim,
This is NOT a double act, in fact I don't know Jon at all. But I have a copy of the 15mm and I can tell you it's an absolute stunner, I have it permanently 'welded' to one of my cameras, and probably gets more work than any (until the M240 arrived).

TClement
3rd December 2015, 09:32 AM
I am assuming the 1:1.7/15mm will fit on the OMD-E10 w/o an adapter.

Tim

Zuiko
3rd December 2015, 09:43 AM
I am assuming the 1:1.7/15mm will fit on the OMD-E10 w/o an adapter.

Tim

That's correct, the mount is the same and no adapter is needed. :)

Ulfric M Douglas
3rd December 2015, 10:23 AM
TClement, do you really want a wide bright prime,
or do you really want a cheap F2.8 zoom?
Very different kettles of fish but both easily doable.

...for your E-M10

TClement
3rd December 2015, 01:20 PM
The more feed back I get to my original post the more I lean towards a wide sharp prime as I can always crop.

Tim

Otto
3rd December 2015, 01:39 PM
Ffordes have a Samyang 12mm f/2; I've no idea of the quality of this lens but it would seem to fit your requirements

http://ffordes.com/product/15092911082971

They also have a used 12mm Zuiko for a bit more money

http://ffordes.com/product/15112610592331

xperia
3rd December 2015, 02:26 PM
Erm, shameless plug but I have a 12-60mm 2.8-4 SWD lens, works great with MMF adaptors, and many people will say it is sharper, or at least AS sharp as a 12-40 PRO. It's only 230 so a good cost saving, plus the build quality of a tank :) Even if you dont buy one, try one to see just how good it is :)

Ricoh
3rd December 2015, 02:51 PM
Tim,
I learnt something from years of experimenting with differet lens set ups, that is if you stick to one lens, and learn the way it 'sees', you will see the finished picture in your head long before you raise the camera to your eye, or via the LCD.
For me the 35mm FF equivalent is the best lens for what I need, and now I'm beginning to see the frame without the camera such that I know where to stand in relation to the subject. You can always 'zoom' with your feet, and learn at the same time.
I would have mentioned the brilliant Oly 17mm f1.8, but as you indicated earlier you were looking for something wider (12mm at the wide end of the 12-40) the 15mm came to mind. I've tried both and in the end I sold the 17 and kep the 15.

TClement
4th December 2015, 07:54 AM
Thanks again to all.

They say that to become good at golf you need to practice at least 10,000 hours. I am beginning to realize that the same is with photography.
Another thought - this forum is a valuable tool in that as you work though all this advice and ideas, it enables one to re-think the original question and come back to what was behind this question. So this is what I have come to (at this moment). I would like a fairly wide, sharp, lens for low light. my 1.8 isn't too bad for what I need but too narrow.

Here is a question on the Panasonic Leica 15mm f/1.7 Lens
Note on aperture ring when used on Olympus camera bodies

I've read that the aperture ring only work on Panasonic cameras at the time of this writing. Maybe Olympus might want to update their firmware. If not then, there's seriously no point for Olympus camera users to buy this lens over the Olympus 17mm f/1.8 lens.

byegad
4th December 2015, 08:01 AM
Ffordes have a Samyang 12mm f/2; I've no idea of the quality of this lens but it would seem to fit your requirements

http://ffordes.com/product/15092911082971

They also have a used 12mm Zuiko for a bit more money

http://ffordes.com/product/15112610592331

I have the Samyang 12mm and the much more expensive Voigtlander Nokton 25mm f0.95. The Samyang is very nearly as good as the Voigt at a lot less money.

Ricoh
4th December 2015, 09:32 AM
Yes that's correct Tim, the PL 15 f1.7 aperture control only works on Panasonic bodies.
The Olympus 17 f1.8 has the added benefit of an optional manual focus mode - Olympus call it the snapshot mode, or something like - the focus ring is pulled back to do this and it reveals a DoF scale, it's basically manual focus by wire.
Both lenses are very well made, so it's a case of take your pick. Go for the one appropriate to your needs and intended use.

TClement
4th December 2015, 02:58 PM
Here is another idea while on the 50mm prime.
What about an OM Olympus Zuiko 50mm f1.8 with an adapter?
Tim

Ricoh
4th December 2015, 03:05 PM
Been there tried it, sold it.
You realise of course that it's an equivalent of 100mm fl on u43, and its manual everything, focus and aperture. Further, the lens was designed for film of 35mm format and doesn't really match the optical performance of the modern lens developed for digital and for u43.

TClement
30th December 2015, 03:03 PM
Thanks for all the input. In the end I went for a Panny 1:1.7/15mm and it turns out that this is what I really was looking for. It just takes a while to think differently from a zoom lens I was using. My shots in dim lighting are far better.*chr:D

Beagletorque
30th December 2015, 03:36 PM
Post something up, let's have a look!

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