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Kiwi Paul
7th October 2015, 03:52 PM
I've been browsing through the "Explore, Recent Photos" on flickr recently and there is some excellent stuff there that has hundreds of favs and thousands of views, no problem with that.....but there is also some very middle of the road stuff (to be polite) that also has thousands of views and hundreds of fav's.
It makes we wonder what people decide to fav, is it just to get noticed or do they really think some of the crappy photos are that good?
Also how do folk get so many views, and so many followers, some folk have thousands of followers?


Paul

Graham_of_Rainham
7th October 2015, 03:55 PM
Click Bots... :o

Kiwi Paul
7th October 2015, 04:06 PM
Click Bots... :o
Possibly in some cases but a lot of them seem to have genuine views and hundreds of comments, how do they get to be so popular on flickr.

I don't promote myself on flickr at all, just pretty much what I post on here and a couple of other forums so I don't expect to be popular on flickr, but say I wanted to become popular, how would you do it? I'm not but just curious.

Paul

MargaretR
7th October 2015, 07:00 PM
Flickr is a mystery to me too, when you see some of the cr*p that gets hundreds of faves. And I don't take seriously anyone who is following thousands (how can they possibly discriminate between good and rubbish that way?) and/or has thousands of followers themselves. (Unless the latter is a Big Name Pro)

I suspect there's some algorithm somewhere that looks for activity/sheer number of clicks, and if you fave everything and follow everyone, you get noticed, and therefore in turn become popular. As one who is rather more selective, I'll never be popular or Explored, but OTOH, that's not what photography is about to me anyway.

Probably my view is out of tune, in seeing it as about the photography, rather than about the being 'famous' on social media... But that's fine with me!

Kiwi Paul
7th October 2015, 07:06 PM
I'm with you Margaret, it's only about the photography for me too, it's nice to have folk fave your pics but only if its genuine, judging by the cr*p that gets faves as we have seen a lot of the faves are just to get noticed and not discerning.
A shame but that's life I guess.

Paul

IanB
7th October 2015, 09:40 PM
its game about numbers Paul, befriend as many people as possible, return every 'friendship' and spend LOTS of time saying nice things about lots of other photos and those people will tick lots of your boxes. Some of the best photographers/photos don't get many, or any views because they are not into the numbers game; and a time game. I have a mate from Canada who set out to get a 1,000,000 G+ followers and now has 1,047,923! This bloke (https://plus.google.com/111710709520144583864/posts?hl=en) . Sadly he only uses a Sigma DP2 Merrill; he would have 2 mil followers if used an Oly em 10 ........... would have over 4 mil followers if he used an EM1 :rolleyes:

It's often more a people # and time put in than photography quality

Graham_of_Rainham
7th October 2015, 09:56 PM
Perhaps we should "follow and fave" each other ;)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21646256@N08/

pdk42
7th October 2015, 10:37 PM
Perhaps we should "follow and fave" each other ;)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21646256@N08/

Done! .

alfbranch
8th October 2015, 12:35 AM
It is done by joing groups and posting photos of a certain style in them mostly.
It can be fun giving negative comments on a photo though as some people really take badly to it.

One of my shots was on Explore yesterday.

bredman
8th October 2015, 12:54 AM
I fave images there, sometimes the image will be crap but of something of interest, or an old lens on m43 perhaps. Folk out there will have lots of reasons to fave. Many won't fave at all preferring to give and receive comments.

Personally i just like my images to be viewed. If you want to share your images with the public then uploading one to Flickr isn't enough, so you have to put it where folk can see it. That means to get explored (which is nothing more than a lottery for new images) or to post to a group. There are probably millions of groups, many are even abandoned, but they may be specific interest groups or competition groups etc. When folk have seen your photostream they may follow you and if you're interested in their photography for whatever reason then you can follow them back or obviously just follow anyone you wish at anytime. Then your 'community' will grow provided you maintain a certain level of activity. It is unlikely that anyone will randomly find themselves on your photostream unless led there.

Yes Flickr can be tedious, i manage about 2 weeks on and 4 weeks off.

I've had one image explored on the front page. I have no idea why-how, it was just selected with 500 others. It was surrounded by images that had received thousands of faves throughout the day whereas mine received just a few hundred. It's not a great image but it got almost 20,000 views though, which is kind of cool.:)


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/20009967659_c46d41f4c8_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wudjfp)Ruddy Darter On Dune Grass (https://flic.kr/p/wudjfp) by Pete O'Sullivan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/122278067@N06/), on Flickr

Petrochemist
8th October 2015, 07:23 AM
Like Bredman I think I have also Fav'ed photos that are poor quality, because of what they feature. It may be a homemade photo accessory that looks interesting, or perhaps explaining a technique I plan to try.

Kiwi Paul
8th October 2015, 07:29 AM
Thanks for all the info, I never actually looked at the "Groups" so now I know about them have joined a couple, not to get noticed particularly but because I like the topics.

Paul

MargaretR
8th October 2015, 08:59 AM
OK, I've just tracked down and 'followed' a few of you that I didn't already follow. Am I Popular now? :D:D:D

Groups on Flickr can be interesting, again if you're selective. It amazes me the weird things some people choose to specialise in ....

mstphoto
8th October 2015, 09:02 AM
I emailed Flickr and asked why one of my Explored images from a few years ago was suddenly dropped recently.
I never received a reply but all my Explored images were then dropped.
I've had Explored images that aren't in any groups and only a handful of views and faves.
I think Explore is one of life's many mysteries.

Also, did you know that if you add a border and w/m they are instantly dropped?
Neither did I until a couple of weeks ago
Grrr!! :mad:

Mike

mstphoto
8th October 2015, 09:08 AM
Perhaps we should "follow and fave" each other ;)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21646256@N08/

I think I've "followed" quite a few of you *yes
Its good to see stuff that isn't posted on the forum.
I personally, don't post every shot I post on Flickr on here

Mike

shotokan101
8th October 2015, 09:18 AM
There's actually a thread over on AVF where we post up examples of photos that make it into the Explore selection for "unknown reasons" - if you get my drift ;)

Some real howlers make it to Explore every day.....

Jim

Kiwi Paul
8th October 2015, 09:26 AM
Perhaps we should "follow and fave" each other ;)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21646256@N08/

Good idea, I'm following you...:eek:

mstphoto
8th October 2015, 09:28 AM
Stalker!! :D :D :D

Kiwi Paul
8th October 2015, 09:29 AM
OK, I've just tracked down and 'followed' a few of you that I didn't already follow. Am I Popular now? :D:D:D

Groups on Flickr can be interesting, again if you're selective. It amazes me the weird things some people choose to specialise in ....

I'm following you now.....taken out of context that could sound creepy lol :eek:

Paul

Kiwi Paul
8th October 2015, 09:30 AM
Stalker!! :D :D :D

I've been following you for ages!!!:rolleyes:

Graham_of_Rainham
8th October 2015, 09:32 AM
Stalker!! :D :D :D

Great pictures.

But I'n not sure I could ever "follow" someone with the handle eosmike... ;)

mstphoto
8th October 2015, 09:37 AM
Great pictures.

But I'n not sure I could ever "follow" someone with the handle eosmike... ;)

:D
I've seen the light and now living the dream :p

Mike

MargaretR
8th October 2015, 09:44 AM
I emailed Flickr and asked why one of my Explored images from a few years ago was suddenly dropped recently.
I never received a reply but all my Explored images were then dropped.
I've had Explored images that aren't in any groups and only a handful of views and faves.
I think Explore is one of life's many mysteries.

Also, did you know that if you add a border and w/m they are instantly dropped?
Either did I until a couple of weeks ago
Grrr!! :mad:

Mike

Ah well, there's the answer. I watermark mine, for whatever protection it gives against 'tea leaves', so obviously that's why I'm not Popular and have never been Explored! :D

I'll keep telling myself that, anyway ... ;)

(not that I care a whit)

IainMacD
8th October 2015, 11:06 AM
I have been 'stalking' one or two of you on Flickr for a while and have just added some more through the links in this thread, there are lots of great pictures on there folks!
I still don't 'get' why photos of Lego (and other toy manufacturers) characters are so popular and can usually be found in the top 50 most days? Am I missing something?

I emailed Flickr and asked why one of my Explored images from a few years ago was suddenly dropped recently.
I never received a reply but all my Explored images were then dropped.
I've had Explored images that aren't in any groups and only a handful of views and faves.
I think Explore is one of life's many mysteries.

Also, did you know that if you add a border and w/m they are instantly dropped?
Either did I until a couple of weeks ago
Grrr!! :mad:

Mike

I had 2 shots in Explore on September 29th, one was dropped later in the day but after reading your message Mike, I don't think I will ask any questions! :eek:

andym
8th October 2015, 11:15 AM
Yes I've had a few in explore. Gave me quite a shock first time when I turned my tablet on in the morning and was bombarded with 300 odd favorite notifications. Seemed to go on forever.

I've got a few of you added, always nice to see your pics.

MarkG
8th October 2015, 11:56 AM
I had a shock seeing all my iphone photos on flickr, thought it had shared them but luckily they are set to private.

I don't have the pro version of flickr to get detailed stats, what I don't understand is most of my photos have perhaps 10 to 50 views, but one group of flower pictures has some 1500 to 2000. no idea where from.

bredman
8th October 2015, 02:34 PM
I emailed Flickr and asked why one of my Explored images from a few years ago was suddenly dropped recently.
I never received a reply but all my Explored images were then dropped.
I've had Explored images that aren't in any groups and only a handful of views and faves.
I think Explore is one of life's many mysteries.

Also, did you know that if you add a border and w/m they are instantly dropped?
Neither did I until a couple of weeks ago
Grrr!! :mad:

Mike

There is 2 levels of being explored. One is to remain on the front page. The other is in what they call 'the long tail', to find the long tail click on the last image on the explore page and you'll see the images continue. Those explored images will get much less attention compared to those on the front page.

Apparently, to be explored the image must be titled, tagged, and in no more than 5 groups - along with other requirements. Images are only explored in the first 24 hours of posting. It is a lottery, 1 in 17000 new images get explored.