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pandora
14th September 2015, 06:26 PM
Late yesterday conservative MP Malcolm Turnbull challenged his leader, PM Tony Abbott for the top job. At a Party Room meeting last night Tony's colleages voted for a change in leadership so Malcolm when he's sworn in will be Australia's 29th Prime Minister.

Jim Ford
14th September 2015, 06:37 PM
I guess it had the full approval of Rupert, then!

Jim

Naughty Nigel
14th September 2015, 08:00 PM
Hopefully your new PM won't believe the earth is flat! :)

PeterBirder
14th September 2015, 08:07 PM
Yes, it's been on the news here too.

It coincides with our opposition Labour Party "electing" a new leader in an "election" in which any Tom, Dick or Harry, party member or not could pay 3 to sign up to vote. Unsurprisingly the new leader seems to have had a bit of a struggle getting fellow party MPs to join his Shadow Cabinet.

Politics gets more bizarre by the day.*shrug:confused:*zzz

Jim Ford
14th September 2015, 09:14 PM
It coincides with our opposition Labour Party "electing" a new leader in an "election" in which any Tom, Dick or Harry, party member or not could pay 3 to sign up to vote. Unsurprisingly the new leader seems to have had a bit of a struggle getting fellow party MPs to join his Shadow Cabinet.

It's called democracy, and shows how far out of touch the PLP is with that of the socialist supporting public. It exposes just how 'Tory-Lite' the PLP has become!

Jim

Magus
14th September 2015, 09:26 PM
Trouble is in the UK - neither of the main party machines is actually in favour of democracy so when a one person one vote election takes place the apparatchiks are always unhappy with the result.

The only solution they have - effectively sack the electorate and get one which will give them the answer they want by changing the rules.

Actually, they don't have to worry about the General Election as the present system is already so skewed that it isn't really democratic anyway!

pandora
14th September 2015, 10:50 PM
I guess it had the full approval of Rupert, then!
Jim
Precisely Jim - indeed it may even have been Rupert's idea. *susp

Hopefully your new PM won't believe the earth is flat! :)
Absolutely not - unlike Tony, Mal is a climate change 'true believer'.

Yes, it's been on the news here too.
It coincides with our opposition Labour Party "electing" a new leader in an "election" in which any Tom, Dick or Harry, party member or not could pay 3 to sign up to vote. Unsurprisingly the new leader seems to have had a bit of a struggle getting fellow party MPs to join his Shadow Cabinet.
Politics gets more bizarre by the day.*shrug:confused:*zzz
Yea Peter, I've seen the somewhat charismatic Jeremy Corbyn on our news of late ... he comes across as a kind of political messiah with lots of dedicated followers ... now I won't even try to understand UK politics, our system is way more predictable - "phony Tony (Abbott)", or the "mad monk" as he was known two years ago, was so transparently stupid that I was gob-smacked when the electorate made him PM. I'm afraid we Aussies were so distracted by hot dogs, kangaroos, meat pies and footy that we fell for the sporty image he created of himself. Personally, if we had to have a new conservative leader I would have preferred the highly intelligent Julie Bishop, Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party over the arrogant Mal, but the "blokey" Aussie electorate is certainly not politically mature enough yet to elect a female PM. In my opinion, former labour PM, Julia Gillard (who came to power by an internal coup in the Labor Party, just as Malcolm has in the LCP) was arguably the most impressive PM we have ever had.

Ross the fiddler
15th September 2015, 12:04 AM
Precisely Jim - indeed it may even have been Rupert's idea. *susp


Absolutely not - unlike Tony, Mal is a climate change 'true believer'.


Yea Peter, I've seen the somewhat charismatic Jeremy Corbyn on our news of late ... he comes across as a kind of political messiah with lots of dedicated followers ... now I won't even try to understand UK politics, our system is way more predictable - "phony Tony (Abbott)", or the "mad monk" as he was known two years ago, was so transparently stupid that I was gob-smacked when the electorate made him PM. I'm afraid we Aussies were so distracted by hot dogs, kangaroos, meat pies and footy that we fell for the sporty image he created of himself. Personally, if we had to have a new conservative leader I would have preferred the highly intelligent Julie Bishop, Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party over the arrogant Mal, but the "blokey" Aussie electorate is certainly not politically mature enough yet to elect a female PM. In my opinion, former labour PM, Julia Gillard (who came to power by an internal coup in the Labor Party, just as Malcolm has in the LCP) was arguably the most impressive PM we have ever had.

Obviously the voters had a gut full of the antics of the previous lot & after their dismal failed policies so had to take what was offered, reluctantly. I only hope things work out better for us all now, but we shall see.... :rolleyes:

Also, it wasn't her gender that wasn't accepted but that she kept stepping in the brown stuff too often (without taking advice how not to). :p

pandora
15th September 2015, 09:56 AM
Obviously the voters had a gut full of the antics of the previous lot & after their dismal failed policies so had to take what was offered, reluctantly. I only hope things work out better for us all now, but we shall see.... :rolleyes:

Also, it wasn't her gender that wasn't accepted but that she kept stepping in the brown stuff too often (without taking advice how not to). :p

Welcome to the conversation, Ross. *chr

During her prime ministership it is extensively documented that Julia Gillard endured an unprecedented campaign of sexist and chauvinist abuse, denigration, double standards, gross disrespect for the office of Prime Minister and gross disrespect for her as a person not only by Abbott but in particular by the Murdoch press. On her watch as Prime Minister during the global financial crisis, our growing economy was the envy of the world - low unemployment, low interest rates, low inflation and triple-A credit ratings. In foreign policy Gillard negotiated the basis for high level discussions with China which more recently were brought to fruition by Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, a woman politician for whom I have the greatest admiration and respect, without subscribing to the vested interests of the party she represents.

It is hard for any two-eyed person not to see the poetic justice in Tony's demise having fallen under the knife of the "smiling assassin". :cool:

Wally
15th September 2015, 11:37 AM
Not wanting to get into 'politics' as such, it does, however, look like interesting times ahead for the land of OZ and here in the UK.

We could have done with a similar nudge some years back both here *yo and in the US *yo then perhaps the deep dark sticky smelly brown stuff in the ME might never have come about.

Wee man
15th September 2015, 11:42 AM
Mark did you not stand?

Wally
15th September 2015, 11:48 AM
Mark did you not stand?

There you go... bringing common sense into the nonsense that is politics. There's always got to be a spoil-sport. ;)

pandora
15th September 2015, 11:49 AM
Not wanting to get into 'politics' as such, it does, however, look like interesting times ahead for the land of OZ and here in the UK. We could have done with a similar nudge some years back both here *yo and in the US *yo then perhaps the deep dark sticky smelly brown stuff in the ME might never have come about.
Aussie politics is never dull, Wally. *chr

Mark did you not stand?

I never learnt to snivel, pump hands or nurse babies, Ed. *chr

skids
15th September 2015, 06:40 PM
Oz has a new PM - is it June 2010 / June 2013 / September 2013 / September 2015 again already?

pandora
15th September 2015, 09:23 PM
Oz has a new PM - is it June 2010 / June 2013 / September 2013 / September 2015 again already?

Such is the rough and tumble of the Aussie political landscape, jon! *chr

(not a bad system really, it was inspired by the olde English chivalry tradition of jousting, I believe! *whack )

Ross the fiddler
15th September 2015, 09:49 PM
Such is the rough and tumble of the Aussie political landscape, jon! *chr

(not a bad system really, it was inspired by the olde English chivalry tradition of jousting, I believe! *whack )

Yep!
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/2005_0524IronFest20050016s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58600)

This was a women getting the guy in the head. Slightly dirty hit maybe? Or maybe she just didn't have the strength to hold the jousting pole with more control. *shrug I wonder who she could be? :rolleyes: ;)