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snaarman
13th October 2008, 07:59 PM
This is an image I've revisited after many years. A lot of fiddling with off camera flash and black background...


http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/610/rope2.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/8754)

Any thoughts?

Pete

Barr1e
13th October 2008, 08:12 PM
Is it Indian Pete?


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It seems to me to be very well executed.

I like it very much.

Regards. Barr1e

Graham_of_Rainham
13th October 2008, 08:51 PM
I think I looked at this just before you put it up for comment.

It's an image that I find myself looking at, with thoughts of how can I do that? What would I do differently? Would that improve it? and I don't see how I could, I'd end up with a totally different image and I doubt it would be nearly as good.

Anyway you've done all that already and the result that you present here shows clear signs of a lot of thought in what you want as an image and how to go about it.

The thing that is confusing me (it don't take a lot) is that you have called it "Sidelighting" but it looks to me as though the source of light is from about a 2 o'clock position and not very much above the plane of the coil of rope. Had the light been above the plane of the rope a bit more it may have brought out some more detail in the depths of the coils. But that would likely reduce the surface detail that is so much of the content of the image.

I guess you must have tried coiling the rope with the end on the outside rather than coming out of the middle. Yes of course you did, and I bet it looked nowhere near as good.

I like the way the left end disappears into the darkness, but that also gives it a floating in mid air look that I feel would look better if it was just about visible so that it holds it in the frame.

I'd like to know how may shots and lighting arrangement you tried before you settled on this one.

Overall I like this. I've enjoyed looking at it and thinking about it. It's also given me food for thought so:

Thank you

*chr

snaarman
13th October 2008, 09:28 PM
This turned out to be a difficult shot. You need to get enough light onto the rope without illuminating the black back cloth. I used some cardboard boxes in front of the flashes to act as obstructions to the lighting.

There were 2 flashes, one at 3 o'clock and one at 11 o'clock (set at 2 stops lower power). The right hand flash is intended to give the edge lighting, while the other one gives just enough fill to lift the rest of the rope out of the shadows.

I'm afraid it took about 15 shots to get the effect I was looking for...


:)

Pete

PS, I shot original about 15 years ago on Delta 100 film using a slide projector as the lighting source. I think I used a whole film up on that occasion...

PeterD
13th October 2008, 09:30 PM
Pete

I really like this. Its simple (as an image but NOT to set up) and as a result draws you in without distractions. Instead, you find yourself searching for the detail which is visible by the lighting effect you have chosen. I am sorry to say that I cannot provide any help in improving it as I think it looks very good as is.

Thanks for posting this. It makes a change from my wildlife photography and I find it pleasing.

Cheers

Peter

Henk
14th October 2008, 04:43 PM
Lovely light and detail. Have you tried to crop the top down to the inner coil and then rotate it 90 deg anti-clockwise?

Cheers,
Henk

snaarman
14th October 2008, 05:45 PM
Lovely light and detail. Have you tried to crop the top down to the inner coil and then rotate it 90 deg anti-clockwise?

Cheers,
Henk

Hi there Henk.. We used to meet on another 4/3 forum as I recall...

Give it a go and show me what you mean..

Pete

jucca
14th October 2008, 05:59 PM
I like it a lot.
Anyway, it's seems little bit unbalanced for me, I'd rather used same light source on the left side too. But, on the other side, on the left side is "infinity" side of the rope, probably you wanted actualy to emphasise in that manner.

Henk
14th October 2008, 06:25 PM
Hi there Henk.. We used to meet on another 4/3 forum as I recall...

Yes, I stopped moderating and posting there because of the censorship by the site owner on some good discussion threads and the horrible site lay-out nowadays.

Give it a go and show me what you mean..

Ok here goes.. :) .. just an idea.

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snaarman
14th October 2008, 06:33 PM
I do like black, as you may gather... every picture should have some ;-)

My instinct, having had 24 hours to look at it, is that the left side of my original (bottom side of Henk's version) should be darker, to emphasise the one - sided nature of the image.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/610/rope1.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/8768)

And even more extreme: This is a different shot with harder lighting

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/610/rope3.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/8769)

Ever onwards towards minimalism...



Pete

Graham_of_Rainham
14th October 2008, 09:15 PM
I much prefer the second to the third and compareing the 1st with the 2nd, I'd go for the 2nd.

You've really roped in the comments with this one... :D

Oh come on, someone had to say it :o

*chr

shenstone
15th October 2008, 09:25 PM
You've really roped in the comments with this one... :D


Or is that just attracted some ropey comments :rolleyes::)

I've also liked looking at this set and I agree with much of Graham's 1st comment, but on seeing the variants I find myself going back and appreciating the original more than the subsequent variants

It just shows that we have varied tastes doesn't it

BTW I agree that black can really add somthing and also that there is nothing worse than an image where the blacks aren't just that.

Regards
Andy