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Greytop
28th April 2014, 10:06 PM
Anyone using or tried the 12-32 pancake zoom? If so I would be interested to hear your thoughts.
I'm contemplating getting one for my E-M5 as a very compact walkabout solution.
The points that attract me to the 12-32 are:-
#Very good reported image quality
#12 mm appeals more than the 42 mm of the new Olympus EZ pancake zoom
#Very compact dimensions
#Higher than average quality construction (reported)

Zuiko
28th April 2014, 10:34 PM
Good question, Huw. It's a very interesting lens but I've heard little about it!

Greytop
28th April 2014, 10:59 PM
There's an interesting review here (http://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-g-vario-12-32mm-f-3-5-5-6-asph--lens-review-24162) John and images like this one (http://1.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/52914298/0e2674eabea54ad7852a4d2635dcf201) give a really good impression of it's compact dimensions.
Looks ideal really.

Greytop
29th April 2014, 05:35 PM
Well it looks like I'm about to find out how good or bad it is, I've got one arriving from SRS on Thursday. Judging by reviews and reports I'm hopeful.

Iiyama
29th April 2014, 06:23 PM
Keen to hear what you think. I was tempted!

Glenn S
29th April 2014, 07:35 PM
Got one on my GM1.. A lovely little lens, very light, small and sharp. It can be fiddle to mount and remove because when you twist it it extends into your palm. Another aspect of its use is that it has no manual focus; on the GM1 manual focus is achieved using a slider on the rear screen, but there is no way of focussing manually on another camera. Here are a couple of examples:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/FB2a_zps81a7feda.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/P1000420_zps9de43e2d.jpg

Greytop
29th April 2014, 08:45 PM
Keen to hear what you think. I was tempted!

I'll report back when I tested it out :)

Got one on my GM1.. A lovely little lens, very light, small and sharp. It can be fiddle to mount and remove because when you twist it it extends into your palm. Another aspect of its use is that it has no manual focus; on the GM1 manual focus is achieved using a slider on the rear screen, but there is no way of focussing manually on another camera. Here are a couple of examples:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/FB2a_zps81a7feda.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/P1000420_zps9de43e2d.jpg

Thanks Glenn, just what I was hoping to hear. Thanks for posting example shots too *chr
The lack of manual focus doesn't bother me too much, all the other positives look like outweighing that negative by some way.
Sounds ideal for my compact m4/3rds solution *chr

Greytop
1st May 2014, 10:58 PM
The 12-32 arrived from SRS today, it really is tiny, perfect size for making the E-M5 fit in a largish coat pocket or in my case the Apex 100 AW.
Only had a chance to snap a few test shots in the back garden as it was getting dark, the images show good contrast and detail levels particularly at 12 mm.
There is some purple fringing but this is easily dealt with in CO7. I hope to be able to give it a more comprehensive test soon. So far so good.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5011008.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72870)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5011004.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72869)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5011444.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72871)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5011446.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72872)

Greytop
4th May 2014, 09:40 AM
My final trumpet blowing for this little lens.
Having tested it more extensively I fully concur with the very positive reviews it is receiving. For such a compact unit the only real compromises seem to be the speed f/3.5-5.6 and purple fringing at 12mm (worst when wide open).
In general it's very sharp and contrasty, colour rendition seems close to my other Oly m4/3rd lenses. There is slight corner softness at 12 mm but in relative terms with my example the corners can still be classified as good to very good.
Out of focus blur 'bokeh' is excellent for such a compact lens with limited speed. Build is good and it's very simple to operate with just the zoom ring, oh I guess that's the other negative, no manual focus (not a problem for me given the speed of this lens).
Overall then a great little travel / general purpose walk about for when you want to keep your m4/3rds gear compact / discrete.

Some more examples from yesterday...

12 mm
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5031080.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72921)

32 mm, note the bokeh
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5031079.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/72920)

Ross the fiddler
4th May 2014, 10:41 AM
I can't see any neighbours peering over the fence so you must have been discreet! ;) :D

It looks like you have a nice little lens there Huw. *yes

*chr

OM USer
4th May 2014, 04:03 PM
Nice to see a review of this lens but I think I'll save my pennies for the Olympus pancake zoom - the extra range is more important than the wide end and I have 12mm covered if I think I'll need it.

Ross the fiddler
4th May 2014, 10:07 PM
Nice to see a review of this lens but I think I'll save my pennies for the Olympus pancake zoom - the extra range is more important than the wide end and I have 12mm covered if I think I'll need it.

That's where I find the Stylus 1 camera to be so useful which is like having a constant f2.8, 14-150mm lens on an E-M5 (only lighter) that is as compact as this pancake lens. It gives me great discreetness compared to putting a longer lens on my OM-D bodies (I can say that in plural now since I increased their numbers from last Friday), but for a discreet wider angle this 12-32mm lens would certainly have its uses, especially in tighter situations where you wouldn't be trying to focus in on peoples faces at any distance.

*chr

Zuiko
4th May 2014, 11:04 PM
That looks a great investment, Huw. :)

Greytop
4th May 2014, 11:18 PM
I can't see any neighbours peering over the fence so you must have been discreet! ;) :D

It looks like you have a nice little lens there Huw. *yes

*chr

No neighbours watching Ross, I did a quick check before I ventured out ;)

Nice to see a review of this lens but I think I'll save my pennies for the Olympus pancake zoom - the extra range is more important than the wide end and I have 12mm covered if I think I'll need it.

The Oly Pancake zoom was the other that I considered but 12 mm was of more interest to me than the difference between 32 mm and 42 mm. Still the Oly EZ looks to be a nice option too.

That looks a great investment, Huw. :)

Thanks John, yes I'm pleasantly surprised by the quality for such a compact solution. It's possibly a bit on the expensive side given what you can pay for the std m4/3rds Oly 14-42 Mk2 but the 12-32 is definitely a better performer optically.
To be honest I don't think it's not a million miles away from the Lumix 12-35 f/2.8 at 12 mm which is very impressive.

JonSchick
1st June 2014, 10:48 PM
Nice to read this thread. Venturing back to m43 with a GX-7 plus 20/1.7 pancake, and the 12-32 is coming free as a promotion. Covers a similar range to my old Pentax 16-45, which is quite useful.

Cheers,

Jon

Greytop
2nd June 2014, 12:21 AM
Nice to read this thread. Venturing back to m43 with a GX-7 plus 20/1.7 pancake, and the 12-32 is coming free as a promotion. Covers a similar range to my old Pentax 16-45, which is quite useful.

Cheers,

Jon

Good to hear from you Jon, the GX-7 looks to be a very nice camera.
Are you hanging onto some of your Pentax gear or moving back completely?
Let me know what you think of the 12-32 :)

StephenL
2nd June 2014, 06:31 AM
Nice to read this thread. Venturing back to m43 with a GX-7 plus 20/1.7 pancake, and the 12-32 is coming free as a promotion. Covers a similar range to my old Pentax 16-45, which is quite useful.

Cheers,

Jon

Welcome back, Jon. Good to see you again.

JonSchick
3rd June 2014, 05:43 AM
Hi both. Thanks for the welcome home! Probably moving out of dSLR completely as the m43 kit is a better compromise between portability and image quality for me, so may hang around here a little more frequently soon... :D