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Zuiko
29th September 2008, 11:54 PM
TIME FOR ANOTHER FTU/E-SYSTEM USER DAY OUT.

THIS TIME TO PHOTOGRAPH THE AUTUMN COLOURS IN EPPING FOREST, ON SUNDAY 9TH NOVEMBER.

I'm afraid there's no cosy cafe to meet for breakfast on this one!

The Meeting Place is the public car park at Connaught Water. I will be there at 6.00 am to meet anyone else interested in a potential sunrise over the lake. If we are lucky (it cannot be guaranteed) we will be rewarded with the rich colours of the dawn sky reflected in the lake, maybe with swirling mist rising gently from the still water! (If we are unlucky we can sit in the car, drinking coffee from a flask while we listen to the rain hammering on the roof! There is an emergency McDonalds within 2 miles that opens early on a Sunday if we get desperate ).

After the sunrise (?) there should be plenty of water scenes, trees, fallen leaves, fungi and birdlife to occupy us until we return to the car park to meet any later arrivals at 9.00 am.

We will then undertake a walk of approximately 6 miles through the heart of the forest which should provide a wealth of woodland photographic opportunities en route. At approximately halfway we will arrive at High Beech for lunch where there is a cafe and a pub.

The forest can be muddy at this time of year so please bring suitable footwear that is also comfortable for a walk of this length. Walking boots and gaiters are ideal if you have them. Also bring waterproofs and warm clothing including hats and gloves. Consider bringing a hot flask and some simple snacks if you have room. Don't forget macro lenses for fungi and a lightweight tripod if you have one. An umbrellor can be useful for holding over your tripod-mounted camera in the rain and a plastic sheet can make ground level shots more comfortable.

If you are interested please reply in this thread or by PM.

Ian
30th September 2008, 07:07 AM
I'll do my best to be there, John. Epping Forest is familiar territory for me as I grew up in Loughton, which borders the forest :)

Ian

andym
30th September 2008, 07:22 AM
15 mins walk for me.Just need to check the date.I'll confirm later.

As for Mcdonalds,not even if your paying.:mad:

HughofBardfield
30th September 2008, 08:59 AM
6am??? !!! :eek:

Is there such a time at the weekend? (I think I dimly remember it could be reached via Saturday night in the days of my yoooof, but I'm sure there was some slight blurring of vision involved...)

Subject to weather... I'm in. May aim for the 9am start, however. That's bad enough!

Xpres
30th September 2008, 09:27 AM
On a good day I can manage 6am, so if it's a good day I'll be there.:) Must check the diary though first.

davidh
30th September 2008, 02:17 PM
I would like to have made it - but on checking 150 miles/2-3 hours :eek:travelling is asking a bit much - i will resurrect my failed :(attempt for a day out and chasewater(sorry to hijack this thread) if anyone is interested for the same date or maybe the week after.


*chr


Dave

Graham_of_Rainham
30th September 2008, 03:53 PM
Sounds like fun ;)

I have every intention of being there and will try hard to make the 6am start.

*chr

Ellie
30th September 2008, 05:23 PM
It would be nice to meet up, but Epping Forest is a lot too far for me. :(

With the same sort of thought as Dave, who'd like to organise a get-together closer to where he lives, if anybody would be interested in a day out in the New Forest - which could be either town or country, please let me know. Would it be an idea to start a new thread?

thecedars
30th September 2008, 06:25 PM
I've never been on a User Day Out but do hope to meet you at this one as I live in Loughton and love photographing the forest and it's reflections in the lakes. It is what got me started and I would love to learn more about doing it better.
Mark

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 07:42 PM
It would be nice to meet up, but Epping Forest is a lot too far for me. :(

With the same sort of thought as Dave, who'd like to organise a get-together closer to where he lives, if anybody would be interested in a day out in the New Forest - which could be either town or country, please let me know. Would it be an idea to start a new thread?

Great idea Ellie,

it makes sense to organise these meets on a more local basis, particularly in view of the high cost of fuel (not to mention the damage to the envoironment of long distance travel). I'm sure if you start a thread for a New Forest meet you'll get plenty of interest - I just wish it wasn't so far otherwise I'd love to come!

Don't forget to start a thread over on FTU as well. If you need any advice on organising a meet, just drop me a PM. :)

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 07:54 PM
15 mins walk for me.Just need to check the date.I'll confirm later.

As for Mcdonalds,not even if your paying.:mad:

Haha! *yes

It's a rather desperate contingency plan but I don't suppose they'll be much else open at that time on a Sunday morning! (Unless you know better with your local knowledge :))

Personally, I'd rather brave whatever weather we get on the day - however bad it is there is usually something to photograph.

And as far as refreshments go, I'd rather visit the green tea hut where the bikers gather!

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 07:56 PM
Great response so far, this could be our best attended meeting yet!

I'm really looking forward to the day!

theMusicMan
30th September 2008, 08:26 PM
I only wish it was closer for me John... just the mention of birds got the heart 'a fluttering... :)

I hope you have a great day here, I am sooooo envious.... and sad that I cannot make it.

JohnGG
30th September 2008, 08:26 PM
I'm not too sure about the 6 am start, especially if I'm on taxi driving duties for my daughters the night before, but I hope to be there.

Cheers,

JohnGG

andym
30th September 2008, 08:45 PM
Haha! *yes



And as far as refreshments go, I'd rather visit the green tea hut where the bikers gather!


Even at the bikers tea hut you have to drink out of polystyrine cup nowadays.
It used to be big old mugs:(
Never tastes quite the same.

I would recommend bringing something with you as the cafes in Loughton or Chingford dont open until about 10:00 on a Sunday.

One thing I will try to investigate is the Robin Hood pub.They have just put a sign outside saying breakfast.
This pub does nice Thai food in the evenings so it may be Green Curry for breakfast.

davidh
30th September 2008, 09:46 PM
Great response so far, this could be our best attended meeting yet!

I'm really looking forward to the day!


No responses for a day out @ Chasewater :mad::(

Are there any more Midlands based members??

Dave

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 10:46 PM
I only wish it was closer for me John... just the mention of birds got the heart 'a fluttering... :)

I hope you have a great day here, I am sooooo envious.... and sad that I cannot make it.

Ah, all's fair, John. You've got some great locations that make us jealous on our side of the country!

Maybe next year I might consider a central location for a national meet, over a weekend........I wonder? :rolleyes:

Cheers John, and thanks for your good wishes.

*chr

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 10:49 PM
No responses for a day out @ Chasewater :mad::(

Are there any more Midlands based members??

Dave

Hi Dave,

Midlands members may not be looking at this thread as they know that Epping is too far from them.

Why not start a seperate thread and see how it goes? ;)

*chr

davidh
30th September 2008, 10:53 PM
Hi John

i have started a thread for a meet at Chasewater (Twice) but been disappointed at no replies:(

Dave

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 10:56 PM
I'm not too sure about the 6 am start, especially if I'm on taxi driving duties for my daughters the night before, but I hope to be there.

Cheers,

JohnGG

Don't worry, John. I'm sure there will be a number who prefer the 9.00am start. By having two assembly times I'm, hopefully, catering for everyone.

If anyone finds even the 9.00 am start too early, they can always arrange to meet up with us for lunch at High Beech. :D

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 11:01 PM
Hi John

i have started a thread for a meet at Chasewater (Twice) but been disappointed at no replies:(

Dave

Hmmm, I can appreciate your frustration....maybe you'll have to move! :eek:

Seriously, it sounds a great location and there must be some members living in that area. :confused: They can't all be watching Villa! :p

davidh
30th September 2008, 11:09 PM
You may be right:( - but wash your mouth out after mentioning Villa mainly Wolves fans around Cannock:p
*chr

Dave

Zuiko
30th September 2008, 11:12 PM
Even at the bikers tea hut you have to drink out of polystyrine cup nowadays.
It used to be big old mugs:(
Never tastes quite the same.

At least it's still cheap and the ham rolls still come on a proper plate! :D

I would recommend bringing something with you as the cafes in Loughton or Chingford dont open until about 10:00 on a Sunday.

One thing I will try to investigate is the Robin Hood pub.They have just put a sign outside saying breakfast.
This pub does nice Thai food in the evenings so it may be Green Curry for breakfast.

Nice one, Andy, could be a good option - especially if the weather is bad and we want to get out of it for a while. :cool:

But curry for breakfast? :eek: Even if it's not green, I would be! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-020.gif

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

andym
1st October 2008, 07:41 AM
Just thought I would add this in case anyone wants to do a bit of background reading.

http://theydon.org.uk/lhs/lhs%20pages/Walks.htm

Jim Ford
1st October 2008, 08:22 AM
Just thought I would add this in case anyone wants to do a bit of background reading.

http://theydon.org.uk/lhs/lhs%20pages/Walks.htm

Interesting link, though it's a bit worrying about the problem of parking in the provided areas. Is car theft the main source of income for the folks of Loughton?
;^)

Jim

andym
1st October 2008, 08:32 AM
Interesting link, though it's a bit worrying about the problem of parking in the provided areas. Is car theft the main source of income for the folks of Loughton?
;^)

Jim


This is prime Essex man and woman territory so there plenty of 4x4 to break into.
I think anyone arriveing for the 06:00 meet may also have to avoid the cocaine dealers and people indulging in other dodgy outdoor activities:eek:

Ian
1st October 2008, 11:23 AM
Interesting link, though it's a bit worrying about the problem of parking in the provided areas. Is car theft the main source of income for the folks of Loughton?
;^)

Jim

Haha! As a former resident of Loughton, what are you implying?! :D

Ian

Bill Gordon
1st October 2008, 05:36 PM
Even at the bikers tea hut you have to drink out of polystyrine cup nowadays.
It used to be big old mugs:(
Never tastes quite the same.

I would recommend bringing something with you as the cafes in Loughton or Chingford dont open until about 10:00 on a Sunday.

One thing I will try to investigate is the Robin Hood pub.They have just put a sign outside saying breakfast.
This pub does nice Thai food in the evenings so it may be Green Curry for breakfast.

Hi Andy

Wots 'appened 2 good old fashioned British food??

tlove
1st October 2008, 06:37 PM
It would be nice to meet up, but Epping Forest is a lot too far for me. :(

With the same sort of thought as Dave, who'd like to organise a get-together closer to where he lives, if anybody would be interested in a day out in the New Forest - which could be either town or country, please let me know. Would it be an idea to start a new thread?

Hi Ellie - start that thread then :D!

I live between the New Forest and Southampton, so it would be a lot closer than Epping Forest. I could be interested if I'm available.

Zuiko
1st October 2008, 07:42 PM
Interesting link, though it's a bit worrying about the problem of parking in the provided areas. Is car theft the main source of income for the folks of Loughton?
;^)

Jim

Sadly, these days it's the same throughout the country at any popular car park where people go off for long walks. The trick is to leave the Roller or Beamer at home and bring the clapped out Mondeo instead. And make sure no valuables or bags that look like they might contain something are left on show. Alternatively, let your car become a complete and utter tip like mine, so that it apppears to have already been ransacked! :o

Zuiko
1st October 2008, 08:00 PM
This is prime Essex man and woman territory so there plenty of 4x4 to break into.
I think anyone arriveing for the 06:00 meet may also have to avoid the cocaine dealers and people indulging in other dodgy outdoor activities:eek:

Should make some interesting reportage style B&Ws! You won't see many doggers, though, it'll be too cold! ;)

The people you usually meet at that time in the morning are anglers!

theMusicMan
1st October 2008, 09:10 PM
Should make some interesting reportage style B&Ws! You won't see many doggers, though, it'll be too cold! ;)

The people you usually meet at that time in the morning are anglers!... or birders... :)*chr

Andrew Riddell
1st October 2008, 09:20 PM
John,

As you know, I'm an urban type, so uncontrolled nature is not usually my thing, but, weather permitting, I hope to see you at 9:00am.

Were you thinking of including the Great Standing (aka - quite wrongly - Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge) as a bit of variety?

Regards,

Andrew

Zuiko
1st October 2008, 11:25 PM
... or birders... :)*chr

Absolutely, John! I know you'd be there at the crack of dawn if you lived closer!

*chr

Zuiko
1st October 2008, 11:30 PM
John,

As you know, I'm an urban type, so uncontrolled nature is not usually my thing, but, weather permitting, I hope to see you at 9:00am.

Were you thinking of including the Great Standing (aka - quite wrongly - Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge) as a bit of variety?
Regards,

Andrew

I hadn't factored it into my plans but if there is enough demand and sufficient time, or the weather dictates, yes it is possible.

andym
2nd October 2008, 06:24 AM
John,


Were you thinking of including the Great Standing (aka - quite wrongly - Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge) as a bit of variety?

Regards,

Andrew

Its only about 10 mins walk across Chingford Plain from Connaught Water.

HughofBardfield
2nd October 2008, 09:11 AM
Sadly, these days it's the same throughout the country at any popular car park where people go off for long walks. The trick is to leave the Roller or Beamer at home and bring the clapped out Mondeo instead. And make sure no valuables or bags that look like they might contain something are left on show. Alternatively, let your car become a complete and utter tip like mine, so that it apppears to have already been ransacked! :o

Ah... that's my trick as well (at least that's what I tell the wife :o)!

Xpres
2nd October 2008, 09:31 AM
I wonder how many dodgy types are reading this forum and also planning a trip to connaught water to ransack scruffy looking cars? :eek:

The diary is free for that day so I'll be there in my jalopy... Or should we car share?

Zuiko
2nd October 2008, 05:19 PM
I wonder how many dodgy types are reading this forum and also planning a trip to connaught water to ransack scruffy looking cars? :eek:

The diary is free for that day so I'll be there in my jalopy... Or should we car share?

I'm all for car sharing if we're comming from the same direction and, as organiser, I can be sure of arriving first at the meeting point! I'll drop you a PM later.

P.S. For any doggy types looking in, my car with the ransacked look really won't have anything of value in it. My camera bag always comes out the car with me, even if I've just stopped to use the loo....:p

Xpres
4th October 2008, 11:12 PM
Ok then lets do that - I'm a bit closer but the same direction.

Glen Bentley
5th October 2008, 08:07 AM
As I live in Epping it would be rude not to attend.

Will try for the 06:00 start.:p

Look forward to meeting those of you able to make it.

Glen

RogerMac
6th October 2008, 10:29 AM
I would like to come - not yet quite certain that I can but is very likely.

Am looking forward to it

Roger

Zuiko
6th October 2008, 07:40 PM
I'm getting a fantastic response on this one - looks like easily being the best attended day I've organised so far! But there is still room for more! :D

*chr

Ghene
17th October 2008, 06:09 PM
that's interesting as I live near by and would give me ideas for one i am organising on the 15th with my photosocialising group...

may i tag along if I manage to wake up Very early?

Zuiko
17th October 2008, 10:00 PM
that's interesting as I live near by and would give me ideas for one i am organising on the 15th with my photosocialising group...

may i tag along if I manage to wake up Very early?

Hi Ghene,

Yes, of course, you'll be most welcome.

Look forward to meeting you. :)

fulhamphil
19th October 2008, 09:26 AM
Got my leaving do for work the evening before, but i,m gonna do my best to get there, it sounds good, regards, Phil.

Xpres
1st November 2008, 10:36 AM
John your message box is full!

Still on for Tomorrow? Sunday looks like it's going to be a dry and bright window in a rainy few days.

andym
1st November 2008, 10:40 AM
John your message box is full!

Still on for Tomorrow? Sunday looks like it's going to be a dry and bright window in a rainy few days.


Hi

Think you,ve got your dates mixed up(or I have).I think it's the 9th.

Xpres
1st November 2008, 10:48 AM
You're right - the ninth.

It's early - I'll put my head on soon.... :o

Zuiko
3rd November 2008, 11:11 PM
Hi,

The day will soon be here and, despite it looking likely that the best of the colours will have passed, I'm sure that the forest will still be beautiful with plenty to photograph.

I've had 17 replies, most of them definites, but only 3 (apart from myself) have said they are up for the 6 am start! The advantage of meeting at this time is that if there is a sunrise we will be there to capture it. The disadvantage is that it will be cold, dark and there is no guarantee that the weather will co-operate to make it worthwhile!

Could Xpres, Graham of Rainham and Glen Bentley please confirm they are still up for the early start and could any others who plan to be there for 6 am please let me know.

The full list of those that have said they are coming, or possibly coming is:-

Ian
andym
HughofBardfield
Xpres
Graham of Rainham
thecedars (Mark)
JohnGG
Andrew Riddell
Glen Bentley
RogerMac
Ghene
fulhamphil
thestickman (Phil)
Barrie & Anne
Peter H
the4ts

Could all the above please confirm if definitely coming (and specify if 6am or 9am), either replying on this thread or by e-mail to johnperriment@btinternet.com

On the day my contact mobile number is 07772416988

The meeting place, Connaught Water, is situated on the A1069 between Chingford and the A104 (the main road that runs through the centre of the forest). Approaching from Chingford it is situated on the left and has a large car park.

I look forward to seeing you all on Sunday!

Cheers,

John

RogerMac
4th November 2008, 06:05 AM
I intend to be there and should be at the 6am start

Roger

Glen Bentley
4th November 2008, 06:23 AM
Yes I am up for the massochism.

See you there.

andym
4th November 2008, 07:56 AM
Hi John

I'll be there.My intention is to walk so I wont be there for 6am as it still dark then and I dont want to fall in any mud holes as I walk through the forest.:eek:
The sun seems to be rising at about 07:00 so I'll probably aim for about that time.
I'll find you around the lake,if I can't I'll give you a ring on your mobile(I have the number).

There are still lots of good colours around the forest.*yes

See you Sunday.*chr

Ps If I need a lift I may have to ask that nice Mr Bentley if he will pick me up.

Glen I'll give you a ring if I need too.

Ian
4th November 2008, 11:08 AM
I'm aimimg for the 6AM start and I should have a Lumix G1 with me as it's due to be delivered tomorrow.

Ian

Glen Bentley
4th November 2008, 08:28 PM
Ps If I need a lift I may have to ask that nice Mr Bentley if he will pick me up.

Glen I'll give you a ring if I need too.[/quote]

Andy,

No problem.

Barr1e
4th November 2008, 09:07 PM
Hi Glen -

I'll join you for a pint one day.

Regards. Barr1e

davidh
4th November 2008, 11:27 PM
Hope you all have a good day - wish i could join you but i have a weekend away in Conwy North Wales

Lookforward to seeing pics

Dave

Zuiko
4th November 2008, 11:42 PM
Hope you all have a good day - wish i could join you but i have a weekend away in Conwy North Wales

Lookforward to seeing pics

Dave

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your good wishes. Hope you have a great weekend in Wales!

Cheers,

Napper
5th November 2008, 02:55 AM
Hi I'm planning to be there hopefully at 6:00 depending on traffic its a bit of a treck from Norwich but sounds like a great day out. This will be my first meet so I'm looking forward to meeting you some of you guys. Does anyone have the post code for the meet point so I can get my sat nav to do the work, trying to drive and think about reading maps etc that time of the morning just doesn't work.

Glen Bentley
5th November 2008, 06:56 AM
Hi I'm planning to be there hopefully at 6:00 depending on traffic its a bit of a treck from Norwich but sounds like a great day out. This will be my first meet so I'm looking forward to meeting you some of you guys. Does anyone have the post code for the meet point so I can get my sat nav to do the work, trying to drive and think about reading maps etc that time of the morning just doesn't work.

Hello,

Not sure that there is a postcode as it is in the middle of the forest.

If you enter Rangers Road E4 into streetmap or a imilar website you cannot miss Connaught Waters.

Or enter Chingford Station in your satnav or perhaps the Royal Forest Hotel which is nearby. This will get you close.

Look forward to seeing you there

Ian
5th November 2008, 07:40 AM
Might it be best to meet at the Royal Forest hotel?

Ian

andym
5th November 2008, 07:54 AM
Might it be best to meet at the Royal Forest hotel?

Ian


You just want to make me walk further.:eek:

Heres a link to the meeting point

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=540350&y=195050&z=3&sv=540350,195050&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

If you click on the - sign you get a bigger view.

There a bigger car park at the lake than at the Royal Forest Hotel.

Zuiko
5th November 2008, 09:08 PM
Hi I'm planning to be there hopefully at 6:00 depending on traffic its a bit of a treck from Norwich but sounds like a great day out. This will be my first meet so I'm looking forward to meeting you some of you guys. Does anyone have the post code for the meet point so I can get my sat nav to do the work, trying to drive and think about reading maps etc that time of the morning just doesn't work.

Glad you can come, Napper, and I look forward to meeting you. I see Glen has already advised you what to enter in the satnav. Thanks Glen.

Zuiko
5th November 2008, 09:21 PM
Might it be best to meet at the Royal Forest hotel?

Ian

Thanks Ian, I see the logic - especially for locating by satnav.

However, I'm not sure the hotel staff and residents would appreciate us all turning up in their car park at 6.00am! Also, if I change the meeting point at this stage I can anticipate that somebody will not pickup the message and arrive at the lake wondering where everyone is!

I see Andy has posted a map - thank you!

Colours are still looking good (better than ever, I thought today on the way to work). Just pray there are no strong winds or heavy rain between now and Sunday!

Ian
8th November 2008, 05:13 PM
Weather forecast is not too bad. It will be rainy around midnight tonight but the rain should ease by dawn and we could get a glimpse of sunshing during the day.

Incidentally, I have to head off home after lunch as I'm cooking the evening dinner and we have a guest (a mod from one of the other sites I run) :)

But I think 6AM - 2PM is a good stint!

Ian

andym
8th November 2008, 06:48 PM
Its very muddy in the forest at the moment.:eek:

Dont forget your waterprooof shoes or boots.

Ian
8th November 2008, 06:48 PM
If the BBC maps are to be believed, there will be clear skies from dawn until around 9AM or 10AM.

See:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/southeast/#no_url

It's going to be chilly - about 6C at 6AM, maybe reaching 10C by noon.

Ian

andym
8th November 2008, 06:51 PM
maybe reaching 10AM by noon.

Ian

Ian

Is that the local 2 hour time difference:D.

JohnGG
8th November 2008, 06:52 PM
I now have clearance from SWMBO so I intend to be there for the 9am slug-a-bed's start. Probably a good thing going for the later rendezvous as I doubt I'd find the car park in the dark :o

I drove down to Uckfield and back today and despite the wind and rain there were still a lot of leaves on the trees and some spectacular colours, especially around Ashdown Forest. Fingers crossed for some good subjects tomorrow :)

Cheers,

JohnGG

Ian
8th November 2008, 07:01 PM
Ian

Is that the local 2 hour time difference:D.

Er. 10C - you know how things are, grey cells diminishing all the time :eek:

Ian

fulhamphil
9th November 2008, 07:11 PM
:oApologies for my non appearance today, unfortunatly the evenings events and a very late curry done for me this morning, i was looking forward to the day out and i'm very dissapointed for not being strict with myself last night. Hope the weather stayed good and you all had a great day, i look forward to seeing the results!!

Zuiko
9th November 2008, 10:39 PM
Hi Phil, I got your message, thanks.

Hope you enjoyed your do last night and feel a little better now! :D

I'll try to repeat the Epping day next year, if there's enough interest. :)

RogerMac
10th November 2008, 09:23 PM
Thanks for arranging it John, I enjoyed it even if I did need a large whisky when I got home

Roger

Zuiko
10th November 2008, 09:28 PM
Thanks for arranging it John, I enjoyed it even if I did need a large whisky when I got home

Roger

So did I Roger (any excuse!) :D

Thanks for coming :)

JohnGG
10th November 2008, 10:07 PM
Thank you, John, for organising a very enjoyable outing and thank you, Ian, for bringing along all of the "goodies" *yes

The dry weather was a blessing, if it had been like today it would have been miserable. I hope there will be further group visits to Epping Forest, I will definitely be going back as there seems to be a vast amount to photograph. I started processing pictures yesterday evening but I was so weary after lugging that enormous camera bag that I flaked out, not even needing the application of spiritous liquor to send me off :o

I've just put some shots in the gallery and will try and process a few more.

Thanks again for a great day :)

Cheers,

JohnGG

Graham_of_Rainham
10th November 2008, 10:19 PM
John,

Thanks for setting this up it was a really good day out with some really great company.

Ian,

Thanks for the loan of the lens, etc..

Regards to all

Zuiko
10th November 2008, 10:56 PM
John and Graham, it was great to meet you both again. I'm glad you enjoyed the day and will definitely plan another trip to Epping in the future.