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srtgray
14th November 2013, 07:03 PM
Whether I am using the pop-up flash, an FL50R on body or remotely, my pictures always come out overexposed. The only way around this is to set the flash to Fill IN.

I always thought that a TTL flash would soften itself to match the required lighting, and I'm pretty sure that's how it used to work on my old Pentax film camera, so why am I getting so much light from the Oly flash? I don't wan to have to dial the thing down every single time I use it.

What I am asking for, I suppose, is an idiot's guide to using a flash on an E-5 (although I had the same problem with my E-3 as well).

peak4
14th November 2013, 09:18 PM
It's a long time since I read it, but English Bob, posted some quite good advice over at FourThirdsPhoto a few years ago

http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html (http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html)

Good luck

photo_owl
14th November 2013, 09:38 PM
where to start...

the obvious place to start is what mode, settings and subjects are you shooting? probably the easiest way to progress (other than really starting at the begining) is for you to post an example of what you are trying to avoid with the settings used and to go from there - in one sense it's not complicated, and in another it comes over as hugely complicated! there are also many ways to approach it.

common problems are a mis - match in metering and trying to bring up dark backgrounds with direct flash (it fries the foreground first).

on the first, if you have both camera and flash exposure compensation at 0, are metering your subject correctly (ESP for a subject covering a significant proportion of the scene is safe) and have a scene that has everything at a similar distance from the flash you can only really 'overexpose' with the flash on TTL Auto if there is more light than your camera settings require before the flash gets added.....everything else follows from there.

photo_owl
14th November 2013, 09:43 PM
It's a long time since I read it, but English Bob, posted some quite good advice over at FourThirdsPhoto a few years ago

http://http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html (http://http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html)

Good luck

your link is a little corrupted Bill - but it was close enough to enable me to find it after failing earlier and wasting time typing my response!

http://www.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html

well worth a read

Ross the fiddler
14th November 2013, 09:49 PM
Another way of getting better lighting indoors (which is discussed to some length in the linked info) with your FL50(R) flash is to use bounce flash (with or without diffuser) where practical, but it does depend on which mode you use & what compensation you're applying & if exposure compensation is linked to the flash compensation etc. as to the results obtained.

It would be good for us to see examples of what you refer to as overexposed too so you can get the feedback on settings & technique you're presently using.

peak4
14th November 2013, 09:55 PM
your link is a little corrupted Bill - but it was close enough to enable me to find it after failing earlier and wasting time typing my response!

http://www.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html

well worth a read

Well spotted, just started using Opera 17, which sometimes ,depending on the website, displays the address without the http:// or www. but seems to put the former in when you copy a link.
Must watch out for that one, many thanks. *chr

bilbo
14th November 2013, 10:55 PM
It's a long time since I read it, but English Bob, posted some quite good advice over at FourThirdsPhoto a few years agoThat has to be the best FL-50, FL-36 advice available on the Internet. It works on the E-M1 too as far as I've tried it...

If I knew English Bob, and I wish I did, I would gladly buy him a few English Pints... *chr

or, in my heritage, a few Irish Whiskies. *zzz

Are you here Bob? This is invaluable work my friend.

Sláinte!

photo_owl
14th November 2013, 11:48 PM
reviewing these I would just caution re the use of AUTO ISO because I believe it was implemented differently on the E1, and certainly there is scope for people to have it set to work differently on later models where it's menu programmable.

this doesn't change the principles though

DerekW
17th November 2013, 12:02 PM
Another vote of thanks to EB - I used his advice all the time when taking flash pictures.
The original website and forum has long since died, so glad that his information was rescued a made available.

photo_owl
17th November 2013, 06:46 PM
The original website and forum has long since died, .

hmmm....wonder what I logged onto earlier then?

DerekW
17th November 2013, 07:03 PM
it was reinvigorated and is run from Australia now - originally it was California based.

bilbo
17th November 2013, 07:40 PM
it was reinvigorated and is run from Australia now - originally it was California based.Do point.........

Ross the fiddler
17th November 2013, 08:40 PM
hmmm....wonder what I logged onto earlier then?

It can be found as the 1st 'sticky' in 'Keepers'. http://www.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html

Also, scrolling down through the posts will get to where it has an attached PDF of it all too.

it was reinvigorated and is run from Australia now - originally it was California based.

Australian? Maybe an Australian has it saved somewhere else or was the one to have it saved on the main forum site. Or are you talking about the whole forum site?

DerekW
17th November 2013, 08:58 PM
When the site restarted about a year or more ago registered users of the original site were emailed and invited to join in again. I understood that the new owner was in Oz, I could be wrong - often am. They were using the same URL.

I have received emails from them with the following address
Fourthirdsphoto.com PO Box 72, Brighton, Tasmania, Australia 7030

So not quite Oz but nearly

Ross the fiddler
17th November 2013, 09:08 PM
When the site restarted about a year or more ago registered users of the original site were emailed and invited to join in again. I understood that the new owner was in Oz, I could be wrong - often am. They were using the same URL.

I have received emails from them with the following address
Fourthirdsphoto.com PO Box 72, Brighton, Tasmania, Australia 7030

So not quite Oz but nearly

You're probably right & I just sign in without actually having noting that little detail (not that I actually visit that site much).

EDIT: How about, I found that email with that address! We (I) learn something new every day. :)

Ulfric M Douglas
18th November 2013, 10:06 AM
I just saved all as a text file, useful tips there.

bilbo
18th November 2013, 01:10 PM
I just saved all as a text file, useful tips there.There's a pdf version here: http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/keepers/19507-suggested-fl-36-50-flash-setups.html#post351602