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Olybirder
5th November 2013, 03:36 PM
My nephew, who is a Panasonic user, thinks that this guy is the bee's knees and couldn't wait to point out this (http://www.digitalrev.com/article/olympus-om-d-e-m1/MTYxNTM3MDk0) not entirely flattering review of the E-OM-D E-M1.

Personally I don't think he has a clue what the point of the E-M1 is. He spends about half the review commenting on the appearance of the camera and complaining that it is half way between an m4/3 and a dslr. That is exactly what it is and that is the whole point of it.

Admittedly about half way through he does concede that it works extremely well but, by that point, I already hated him. :D See what you think of it.

Ron

brian1208
5th November 2013, 03:41 PM
The man specialises in clowning about in all his reviews Ron, many youngsters in particular seem to love his style but as with you, I just find him a pratt *yes

As you say, he grudgingly admits its rather good but my approach is to treat what he does as an attempt at creative art rather than a rational camera review *chr

Chevvyf1
5th November 2013, 03:44 PM
My nephew, who is a Panasonic user, thinks that this guy is the bee's knees and couldn't wait to point out this (http://www.digitalrev.com/article/olympus-om-d-e-m1/MTYxNTM3MDk0) not entirely flattering review of the E-OM-D E-M1.

Personally I don't think he has a clue what the point of the E-M1 is. He spends about half the review commenting on the appearance of the camera and complaining that it is half way between an m4/3 and a dslr. That is exactly what it is and that is the whole point of it.

Admittedly about half way through he does admit that it works extremely well but, by that point, I already hated him. :D See what you think of it.

Ron

Ron, its not worth viewing and he probably only did it because "the ONE is high in search lists" ... so he can make some "hit" money :) ... he clearly does not Olympus and is not a fan of Quality/Retro design either!

From his initial comment about Oly like the Pen and ball point biro pop ups too ... I did not like him :rolleyes:

There are a great many GREAT Reviews

photo_owl
5th November 2013, 03:44 PM
Admittedly about half way through he does admit that it works extremely well but, by that point, I already hated him. :D See what you think of it.

Ron

I hate him on the basis of what you have posted without even reading it........*chr

Olybirder
5th November 2013, 03:48 PM
Thanks all. I shouldn't really let myself be wound up by a sulky little oik like him, as that is exactly what he is attempting to achieve.

I must admit, I don't even think of the E-M1 as a retro-styled camera. It is a functional answer to the problem of bridging the m4/3 range and conventional SLRs. I hadn't even considered the looks.

Ron

Ralph Harwood
5th November 2013, 04:07 PM
Hi everyone!

After watching the first few minutes of this review I think it is great publicity for Olympus, on the basis of the fact that he doesn't like / understand it, and any right thinking person would watch him and do the opposite of what he says!

Cheers,

Ralph.

G2EWS
5th November 2013, 04:32 PM
I was watching the video this morning and got bored after about a minute!

Regards

Chris

Dick Bowman
5th November 2013, 05:44 PM
I think he has a point about the styling - and I see Nikon are now going down the retro road as well (can't see the appeal). First thing that struck me (more or less literally) when I briefly handled the EM-1 was how the viewfinder location made my nose squish up against the screen.

And talking of the screen - last time out with the E-3 I got a lot of benefit out of the fully-rotating screen. EM-1/5 tiltable just wouldn't have handled it (let alone not being able to fold it out of harm/distraction's way).

I really don't get the point of a retro look if it impedes functionality - and I'm sure that something is going to turn up in a few months/years which will really blow us away. Remember - if you can buy something electonic today, it's probably already obsolete.

I'm fairly sure I'll be letting the EM-1 pass me by - I'd like better low light performance than I presently have, but can't give up some of the other stuff.

Wee man
5th November 2013, 05:45 PM
Made myself watch it to the end only one word Wally!

catkins
5th November 2013, 05:54 PM
In the maxim that all news is good news I watched this and 'quite' enjoyed his video - it was entertainment rather than review, over-laboured the ball point biro 'joke' and I ended up feeling that perhaps he was a frustrated pen designer! But he does get the hits and his review will not be the only review watched by those interested in buying a camera - it perhaps does give a valid opinion that will probably appeal most to a diehard Canikon user who is wondering what all the fuss is about, feeling frustrated that Olympus is getting all this publicity, and why a PEN (or its derivatives) is mightier than a sword!!

Regards
Chris

Ulfric M Douglas
5th November 2013, 06:17 PM
You're not catching me out! : that link was to digitalrev.

Where's the proper link Ron? Funny.

StephenL
5th November 2013, 07:32 PM
From his initial comment about Oly like the Pen and ball point biro pop ups too ... I did not like him
Couldn't agree more! *chr

Awful boy!

bredman
5th November 2013, 07:33 PM
Oh no, not Kai and his misfiring Alan Partridgisms. :rolleyes:

Zuiko
5th November 2013, 08:20 PM
Haha! When I first discovered Kai I, too, thought he was a "pratt" - preceded by a quantifying adjective that is rude and vulgar but also extremely versatile and very useful for reinforcing a point. Since then he has grown on me, if only for entertainment value and I have to admit he is (quite) a good photographer.

It actually speaks volumes that the one and only thing he can find to critisize this camera (if you discount video) is it's styling. Everything else is beyond reproach and for Kai to admit that must have been like having teeth pulled! The negativity of this review actually translates as a huge positive! :D

George Dorn
5th November 2013, 09:07 PM
John has it right! Kai reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson, like him or hate him.

This amounts to a good review for them.

Digital Rev videos are FAR more entertaining when Alamby is in them :o

brian1208
6th November 2013, 05:58 AM
Kai reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson

that would be why I think he's a pratt then! *chr

Orogeny
6th November 2013, 07:49 AM
Yep, you wouldn't realise he was giving it the thumbs up if you haven't seen his other reviews.

Like those above I didn't think much the first time I saw one of his youtube pieces - crummy jokes, strange articulation... ding - Jeremy Clarkson!

Definately a marmite character. Watching his tripod review won me over.

Re the review, he doesn't like the styling (sticking on a silver lens didn't do it any favours for me), thought the video was weak and pointed out an issue with the screen and flaps on the side (which no one seems to have mentioned before).

On the plus side everything a camera should do, it does it well.

Cheers, Paul.

bilbo
6th November 2013, 09:56 AM
Jokey review which if you stick with it and cut away the cr@p is actually complimentary. It's probably a generational thing :D

Ian
6th November 2013, 10:18 AM
I actually enjoyed watching several of his reviews - I think he is based in Hong Kong? DigitalRev, incidentally, is an online etailer.

I think his E-M1 review has several technical errors and it is full of personal opinions and declarations of personal preferences. As long as his opinions and preferences are honest then that's OK with me but I'm not sure they should be the basis of a review. He does make some attempt to balance his opinions, although he could work harder on that! :)

I do worry that some of his technical mus-apprehensions will put people off needlessly - like his use of C-AF tracking mode to demonstrate PDAF mode (it doesn't work in that mode) and saying that PDAF is not designed for Micro Four Thirds lenses (it is and works by default in standard C-AF mode).

So - yes, too much opinion and mistakes but I like his style! :D

Ian

timg
6th November 2013, 12:24 PM
I like Kai's reviews (as I like Top Gear too! :D) but I do find it annoying when his personal opinions get in the way of hard facts... like with the EP5 review where he said it was only 1 year since the EP3 was released trying to make it out that Oly release updates all the time when it was actually 2 years between them... then when he made nothing of the new sensor in the EM5... seeing as Lok is such an Oly fan I'm surprised he lets Kai get away with it!

Ian
6th November 2013, 12:47 PM
Can't wait for his Nikon Df review :D

http://dpnow.com/9374.html

Ian

Olybirder
6th November 2013, 12:59 PM
Perhaps I misjudged the tone of the review initially. I didn't realise that it was meant to be entertainment rather than a serious review of the camera. However there are still some things in it which annoy me.

After comparing the operation of the mode dial locking button to a ballpoint pen, he has a moan about the operation of it again later in the video. I think the button is a thing of minor genius.

He also has a dig at the menu system, implying that it takes 10 minutes to change a setting. The setting in question is the individual AF point adjustment, a feature which is included in few, if any, other cameras and which will be used once in a blue moon. There is no need for it to be easily accessible.

The separate covers for the hotshoe and the accessory port allow the hotshoe to be used while keeping the port weather sealed. Furthermore, the accessory port cover is difficult to remove by pulling it backwards, which is a good thing to prevent it getting lost. To remove it, you simply insert your finger nail at one end and it comes straight off.

My main complaint, though, is that he fails to acknowledge that the camera is designed as a link between the Olympus m4/3 and DSLR cameras. With the E-M5 some people wanted it to be bigger to match the 4/3 lenses and felt that the grip was too small. Some felt the buttons were a little small and cramped and others found the location of the dials awkward. In this respect, to some extent, the E-M1 designed itself in true 'form follows function' fashion. It is bigger than the E-M5 with a more substantial grip, larger and better spaced buttons and controls which, by and large, work well.

I am ambivalent about Jeremy Clarkson. Some of his work is entertaining but I would never trust his reviews to choose a car. I suppose I should think about the Kai's reviews in the same way. :)

Ron

Zuiko
6th November 2013, 04:46 PM
Perhaps I misjudged the tone of the review initially. I didn't realise that it was meant to be entertainment rather than a serious review of the camera. However there are still some things in it which annoy me.

After comparing the operation of the mode dial locking button to a ballpoint pen, he has a moan about the operation of it again later in the video. I think the button is a thing of minor genius.

He also has a dig at the menu system, implying that it takes 10 minutes to change a setting. The setting in question is the individual AF point adjustment, a feature which is included in few, if any, other cameras and which will be used once in a blue moon. There is no need for it to be easily accessible.

The separate covers for the hotshoe and the accessory port allow the hotshoe to be used while keeping the port weather sealed. Furthermore, the accessory port cover is difficult to remove by pulling it backwards, which is a good thing to prevent it getting lost. To remove it, you simply insert your finger nail at one end and it comes straight off.

My main complaint, though, is that he fails to acknowledge that the camera is designed as a link between the Olympus m4/3 and DSLR cameras. With the E-M5 some people wanted it to be bigger to match the 4/3 lenses and felt that the grip was too small. Some felt the buttons were a little small and cramped and others found the location of the dials awkward. In this respect, to some extent, the E-M1 designed itself in true 'form follows function' fashion. It is bigger than the E-M5 with a more substantial grip, larger and better spaced buttons and controls which, by and large, work well.

I am ambivalent about Jeremy Clarkson. Some of his work is entertaining but I would never trust his reviews to choose a car. I suppose I should think about the Kai's reviews in the same way. :)

Ron

Hi Ron, you may not have misjudged the tone of the review, Kai may well have intended it as a serious review, let's just say that if he did it was a massive fail! The problem for Kai is that he is a natural off-the-wall entertainer in the mould of Jeremy Clarkson, Boris Johnson or Russell Brand and as such is unlikely to be taken seriously. No, I would never buy a camera (or anything else) on Kai's recommendation but I wouldn't mind a day out shooting with him! :D

I don't think he has done any damage to potential sales because I would hope that anyone contemplating a camera at this level is able to separate the wheat from the chaff. :)

Zuiko
6th November 2013, 04:47 PM
Can't wait for his Nikon Df review :D

http://dpnow.com/9374.html

Ian

I must look out for that, it should be a hoot! *laugh