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DerekC
3rd November 2013, 09:02 PM
Today I got to use the E-M1 on one of my favourite subjects Motorsport-Rallying.
I used two lens 12-60swd & 90-250 F2:8. I have been very pleased with there performance on the E-M1 focus is fast and without hunting. Both C-AF & C-AF Tracking were tried I settled on C-AF as when using tracking whilst panning it didn't do a good job staying on the cars. Early days will experiement again. IS was switched off. I learnt previously to turn "Rec view" off otherwise you can't see what you are doing whilst using continous shooting. Nice weather today so I used ISO on low for many of the shots.

Here's a few from today
90-250mm @ 132mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/111_Ford_Escort_MK2.jpg
12-60mm @ 27mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/39_Ford_Escort_MK2.jpg
90-250mm @ 132mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/1_1_Ford_Fiesta_R5.jpg
90-250mm @ 180mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/107_Ford_Escort_RS2000_MK1.jpg
12-60mm @ 18mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/18_Ford_Escort_MK1.jpg
90-250mm @ 180mm
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/110_Ford_Escort_MK2.jpg

brian1208
3rd November 2013, 09:08 PM
excellent shots Derek, like you I do not find the tracking function any use for this type of work

StephenL
3rd November 2013, 09:33 PM
Great shots. Which event was this?

DerekC
3rd November 2013, 09:36 PM
Great shots. Which event was this?

Thanks the event was "The Malton Forest Rally" held in the Yorkshire forests of Langdale, Cropton & Gale Rigg. All close to Pickering

birdboy
3rd November 2013, 10:01 PM
Well these all look like good results. How pleased are you with the results in comparison to what you have used before? Are they better sharpness wise, more keepers etc.

My type of motor sport is now taking its winter rest so I will have to wait to next year before testing the EM1, should be used to its dial and buttons by then. I also am finding the C-AF + tracking difficult I tried in on planes stacking for LHR and despite a blue sky and the plane being the only contrast thing in the sky it danced all round the frame and refused to lock on.

dbutch
3rd November 2013, 10:04 PM
Very nice set of pictures Derek, and the little camera seems to handle that big lens pretty well:D

How many old Escorts......:eek:

Dave

David M
3rd November 2013, 10:21 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the Escorts.

Peter_Hartland
3rd November 2013, 10:30 PM
Cracking set of images.

DerekC
3rd November 2013, 10:55 PM
Well these all look like good results. How pleased are you with the results in comparison to what you have used before? Are they better sharpness wise, more keepers etc.

Early days but the keeper rate is good, I did muck some shots up experimenting with different settings. Compared to the E-5 the burst frame rate is much improved. I very pleased with the results I have zoomed right in on some of the raw files and the detail is very good. Sharpness wise there is an improvement, as the weather was good today is was using between 100 & 320 ISO, so didn't try and high ISO. I have 2 more rallies this month 3 if I wanted to drive to Wales. I will have to wait until the new season to try it out on bikes.

DerekC
3rd November 2013, 11:01 PM
How many old Escorts......:eek:

Dave

More and more Escorts seem to appear each year. I think there must as many rallying now as in 1980. They are the mainstay of historic rallying. Today's historic section had 17 cars 15 Escorts mk1 & 2.

PeterBirder
3rd November 2013, 11:39 PM
Great set Derek.

Not a type of photography I've ever tried but you've certainly got it cracked. The camera seems to be doing a pretty good job in the right hands.

Thanks for sharing.*chr

photo_owl
3rd November 2013, 11:55 PM
Compared to the E-5 the burst frame rate is much improved.

really? even with IS off the advantage is only marginal here surely?

DerekC
4th November 2013, 05:53 AM
really? even with IS off the advantage is only marginal here surely?

What I was finding was you could take a high burst of shots, without hitting the buffer. If you reframed and shoot again the camera will carry on.
The E-5 will hit the buffer far sooner and on occasions will not be ready to shoot again

Iansky
4th November 2013, 08:17 AM
Great set of photos Derek,

It looks like the EM-1 with the 4/3 longer fast lenses is a perfect combo for this type of work.

It also looks like the weather was good and the action fast, thanks for sharing.

I see you had IS "Off", have you tried the setting that still provides IS but also works when panning?

photo_owl
4th November 2013, 09:02 AM
What I was finding was you could take a high burst of shots, without hitting the buffer. If you reframed and shoot again the camera will carry on.
The E-5 will hit the buffer far sooner and on occasions will not be ready to shoot again

Thanks, now I understand where you are coming from :)

I agree, the buffer must be significant on the M1 - I was shooting over 20 frames RAW last week on some guys surfing that storm with a slow (30mb/s) card; the indication of the buffer was just how long the camera remained writing after I stopped shooting!

photo_owl
4th November 2013, 09:17 AM
I see you had IS "Off", have you tried the setting that still provides IS but also works when panning?

be aware that theoretically this would have you down at 3.5fps...

Zuiko
4th November 2013, 10:32 AM
The technical stuff is very interesting but wow, I really enjoyed these pictures! Maybe the thread title should have been, "You don't need a Ford Escort to go rallying but it helps." :D

OM USer
4th November 2013, 11:20 AM
Nice shots of the Fords being put through their paces.

Olybirder
4th November 2013, 11:45 AM
Excellent action shots Derek. I am very impressed.

Ron

DerekC
4th November 2013, 12:31 PM
Great set of photos Derek,

It looks like the EM-1 with the 4/3 longer fast lenses is a perfect combo for this type of work.

It also looks like the weather was good and the action fast, thanks for sharing.

I see you had IS "Off", have you tried the setting that still provides IS but also works when panning?

I did try IS on one car, but didn't get any better results. I will try again to see if using IS I can get good results whilst panning at low shutter speeds.
2 more rallies this month so time to try.

photo_owl
4th November 2013, 12:52 PM
I did try IS on one car, but didn't get any better results. I will try again to see if using IS I can get good results whilst panning at low shutter speeds.
2 more rallies this month so time to try.

are you travelling far for these? we don't get much rallying in the SE unfortunately; although there's rallycross at Lyden :)

DerekC
4th November 2013, 02:06 PM
are you travelling far for these? we don't get much rallying in the SE unfortunately; although there's rallycross at Lyden :)

Like buses, rallies within a reasonable driving distance all come at once. These were taken in Langdale Forest which is next to Dalby Forest North of Pickering roughly 1 1/4 hrs drive, it is the second time in a month it has had a rally stage. Next weeks rally starts at Pickering and heads north via Croft and Carlise. At the end of the month there is a rally in Sherwood Pines, north of Nottingham about 3/4 hours drive. Other than that it's a long drive to North Wales.

Bikie John
4th November 2013, 02:37 PM
A very impressive collection, Derek.

I was hoping to be able to post some rugby with the E-M1/90-250 combo but the fates conspired against me on Saturday. When I can overcome the embarrassment I may put up a new thread explaining why :)

John

photo_owl
4th November 2013, 02:45 PM
Like buses, rallies within a reasonable driving distance all come at once. These were taken in Langdale Forest which is next to Dalby Forest North of Pickering roughly 1 1/4 hrs drive, it is the second time in a month it has had a rally stage. Next weeks rally starts at Pickering and heads north via Croft and Carlise. At the end of the month there is a rally in Sherwood Pines, north of Nottingham about 3/4 hours drive. Other than that it's a long drive to North Wales.

just looked up the Premier Rally (which I assume is the one you are referring to - might well be tempted to head up, but I have a vague recollection of v limited spectator access?

DerekC
4th November 2013, 03:19 PM
just looked up the Premier Rally (which I assume is the one you are referring to - might well be tempted to head up, but I have a vague recollection of v limited spectator access?

Yes it is the Premier Rally, it is all contained within Sherwood Pines. Spectator access is fairly good you are in an open forest so the only limit is how far you wish to walk. Last year there had been a heavy frost so it was very cold.

DerekC
4th November 2013, 10:07 PM
Just to show the although the E-M1 is the way forward the E-5 can produce a pleaseing image.
This was taken yesterday by the other half.
E-5 50-200mm SWD
http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Ollie_Mellors_Reg_Smith_Millington_Proton.jpg

banjukes
4th November 2013, 10:46 PM
Great images and fantastic clarity. Thanks for sharing.