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dkayuk
19th September 2013, 03:48 PM
Hi
for those of you who are in the know :), can someone please let know if there is any tethering support that comes with the software shipped with this camera?

ie can I see the images straight on my desktop (PC or Mac) if I am shooting with the USB cable attached (camera to PC/Mac).

Or does the WiFi support extend to a computer too, ie shoot straight from the camera into a specific directory that I can "watch" with Adobe Lightroom?

thx
DK

Chevvyf1
23rd September 2013, 07:54 AM
On one of the early EM-1 threads (that camera) someone posted an Oly person in New York using Wifi tethering to tablet/smartphone - not sure about to computer ? but that vid may give you a few clues

StephenL
23rd September 2013, 08:30 AM
No, it's wi-fi to an app which resides on iPad/Pod/Phone, or Android. Not sure if they're doing a Win8 app, but I'm pretty sure it won't extend across programs to LR or anything else.

Graham_of_Rainham
23rd September 2013, 10:47 AM
I have consistently and repeatedly asked for the Olympus Viewer software to have the facility to "tether" as did the Studio software. Using the USB cable would be ok but WiFi would be ideal.

Even a simple WiFi transfer of jpg files to the PC, so that people in the studio can see what is being produced on a screen other than on the rear screen of the camera.

It would also be brilliant to have live view stream to the PC, such that it can be used as a big viewfinder. I do demos and presentations where I often stream from the camera to a digital projector, so having this would be a bonus.

I have sent several suggestions to Olympus and have received positive response, but it has never happened. I have a workaround with the FlashAir card, but it's still not as good as Studio 2 was, years ago, and something that I would really like to see restored to Olympus capability. :cool:

ian p
23rd September 2013, 11:47 AM
I'm hoping some programmer gets hold of one and works out how to do it.

Graham_of_Rainham
23rd September 2013, 12:35 PM
I'm hoping some programmer gets hold of one and works out how to do it.

At the moment I have used "WebRipper" to poll the Flashair Card configured to read the files into a folder. I'd need to set up Lightroom to monitor that folder.

However my ancient laptop will not run LR5 so I guess it's time to update to a tablet that will run the Olympus OIshare.

Just have to wait and see what comes next.

dkayuk
23rd September 2013, 01:12 PM
No, it's wi-fi to an app which resides on iPad/Pod/Phone, or Android. Not sure if they're doing a Win8 app, but I'm pretty sure it won't extend across programs to LR or anything else.

OK, if I am using the camera shutter (or shutter release cable) to take the picture, then will my picture appear on the iPad - does the app work this way?

thx
DK

StephenL
23rd September 2013, 02:07 PM
OK, if I am using the camera shutter (or shutter release cable) to take the picture, then will my picture appear on the iPad - does the app work this way?

thx
DK

As far as I can tell, based on my short time with it, once the camera is connected via wi-fi to the app on the tablet, then the tablet takes over control, so you have to control the camera via the on-tablet display. Camera controls are de-activated.

Ian has played with this for much longer than me, maybe he can better answer this question.

Chevvyf1
23rd September 2013, 02:17 PM
As far as I can tell, based on my short time with it, once the camera is connected via wi-fi to the app on the tablet, then the tablet takes over control, so you have to control the camera via the on-tablet display. Camera controls are de-activated.

Ian has played with this for much longer than me, maybe he can better answer this question.

Yes Stephen is correct :) see that video of the Oly chap in NY NY

dkayuk
23rd September 2013, 03:03 PM
thanks to everyone for their replies.

DK

Ian
23rd September 2013, 03:17 PM
The Olympus Image Share App for Android and iOS (tablets and smartphones) works with:


Almost any camera using a Toshiba FlashAir card (image transfer and sharing only).
The Pen E-PM2 and E-PL5 - these cameras have basic support for FlashAir in camera menus (image transfer and sharing only).
Pen E-P5 - adds live viewing and touch focus/shutter function (iAuto only).
OM-D E-M1 - adds PASM modes.


Ian

photo_owl
23rd September 2013, 03:54 PM
As far as I can tell, based on my short time with it, once the camera is connected via wi-fi to the app on the tablet, then the tablet takes over control, so you have to control the camera via the on-tablet display. Camera controls are de-activated.

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not sure about the camera controls being de-activated bit - whilst I was monitoring the viewfinder and shooting via my Galaxy S2, I also used the connection to view the image files and select/downloaded images to my phone while someone else was shooting.

now, in the moment, it was hard to remember exactly who was pushing buttons when, but I got the impression that the camera responded to either control ie oishare wasn't disabled when the camera was being shot so it's ability to shoot remained live - I think :)

I have to agree with Graham - currently it's going to be android or iOS device running OIshare either being used direct (a big iPad :)) or independently linked/synched to an external screen, or even projector!

As for lightroom, they seem to be going the other way as you can now apply the art filters and other picture settings direct to the image file via your mobile and Oishare before sending direct to the printer/printers!

I wish I had taken the iPad mini with me to use for this as I can see a number of useful applications - I still remain slightly confused about the need for a WLAN in the background to enable all this (or not) especially given the GPS data tagging capability that they run alongside. No doubt all will become clearer (although the manual didn't help in this respect)

bilbo
23rd September 2013, 04:14 PM
I still remain slightly confused about the need for a WLAN in the background to enable all this (or not)I was under the impression that the camera effectively provided the network SSID for the Android/iOS device to connect to. So you ought to be able to use the facility to transfer images from the camera to the device anywhere as long as camera and device can see each other. Right?

StephenL
23rd September 2013, 04:29 PM
There is no need for a WLAN. When Ian tried the system at my house it didn't access my WLAN - definitely.

Ian
25th September 2013, 05:01 PM
not sure about the camera controls being de-activated bit - whilst I was monitoring the viewfinder and shooting via my Galaxy S2, I also used the connection to view the image files and select/downloaded images to my phone while someone else was shooting.

now, in the moment, it was hard to remember exactly who was pushing buttons when, but I got the impression that the camera responded to either control ie oishare wasn't disabled when the camera was being shot so it's ability to shoot remained live - I think :)

I have to agree with Graham - currently it's going to be android or iOS device running OIshare either being used direct (a big iPad :)) or independently linked/synched to an external screen, or even projector!

As for lightroom, they seem to be going the other way as you can now apply the art filters and other picture settings direct to the image file via your mobile and Oishare before sending direct to the printer/printers!

I wish I had taken the iPad mini with me to use for this as I can see a number of useful applications - I still remain slightly confused about the need for a WLAN in the background to enable all this (or not) especially given the GPS data tagging capability that they run alongside. No doubt all will become clearer (although the manual didn't help in this respect)

If you are using a FlashAir card there is no camera control at all so the camera simply works as usual and you can access photos via wifi on the FlashAir card at any time.

However, with the E-P5 and E-M1 when you are in remote control mode the camera is locked up and you can only take photos by remote control from the linked device. I tried to connect more than one device at the same time to an E-P5 but only one would work. I would expect the E-M1 to be the same but I don't have one here to try at the moment.

There is no need for a separate WLAN or router - the connection is peer-peer.

Ian

timd1230
4th October 2013, 06:31 AM
There is an interview out which suggests tethering is an application still to be developed

dkayuk
4th October 2013, 02:53 PM
There is an interview out which suggests tethering is an application still to be developed

Hi timd1230
do you have a link to the interview? I would love to read it or watch it (if it's a video).
thx
DK

OM USer
4th October 2013, 04:43 PM
do you have a link to the interview?

http://www.43rumors.com/page/2/

Focus Numerique (http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-1767/interview-toshiyuki-terada-olympus-e-m1-presentation-caracteristiques-1.html) (google translated (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.focus-numerique.com%2Ftest-1767%2Finterview-toshiyuki-terada-olympus-e-m1-presentation-caracteristiques-1.html)) and Onfoto (http://www.onfoto.ru/review/Olympus-OM-D-E-M1/2481.html) (google translated (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onfoto.ru%2Freview%2FOlympus-OM-D-E-M1%2F2481.html)) posted interviews with Mr. Terada from Olympus. I rely on google translation tool to understand the text so please correct me if there is some error here:
Focus Numerique:
- Development TruePic VII for OM-D E-M1 took more than 3 years.
- It is not possible to add 14bit encoding via firmware upgrade. The encoded 14-bit files require more computing power and thus more expensive processor.
- touch screen on the E-M1 will be improved via fw update. But we need more time for it. We also need to work on the work directly connected to a PC mode. But then again, we did not have time to develop all the applications. There are many applications to integrate and soon.
Onfoto:
- FT lens production will continue until there is a demand for it
- Support of FT cameras and lenses will continue
- There will be no silver E-M1
- There is no plan yet to add phase autofocus on future low end MFT models
- We donít exclude to go Full Frame one day

dkayuk
4th October 2013, 07:04 PM
very interesting interview. At least there's some hope for proper tethering support one day and I like the fact they are not excluding FF one day....obviously this doesn't mean that they will actually do it though....
thanks for posting this.
DK