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shirley
19th May 2013, 11:39 AM
Having nearly moved across to micro 43rds for all my photography I now wish to purchase a macro lens. Currently I use the 43rds 50m lens, which I love, along with an adapter but it is bulky and would love a similar lens in m43rds. I know the 60m gives a macro option, is this my best option or is there something else I am missing? Would the 60m give similar IQ to 50m?
Thank you for any advice you can offer.
Shirley

Graham_of_Rainham
19th May 2013, 02:10 PM
I too have this dilemma! I use the 35mm, 50mm + EX25 and even an old 80mm OM Macro on the Bellows. All exceptionally good at home for table top work, but far from ideal out and about.

Depending on the IQ that you want, and I can only believe that you want the very best, have you tried a supplementary lens on the front. I did a very quick test and while the edge was a bit soft the center was reasonable.

I'm thinking of getting one from eBay and if it isn't what I want, I will sell it again and look on any loss as a "Hire Fee" ;)

If we could only get another group outing arranged, I'm sure some kind sole would let you have use of there's for a while.

shirley
19th May 2013, 02:42 PM
Thank you Graham, food for thought.
I have looked at 60mm reviews, it seems to come out quite well.
I could hire it from Ian....if I decided to buy it I would then get a discount.
Its not something I need to rush into and would probably sell my fav. 12 -60 lens to fund it.
In the meantime I will look into supplementary lenses.

StephenL
19th May 2013, 03:13 PM
The 60mm is really, really sharp. I only sold mine because I discovered that I didn't have the "eye" for macros, and it was too close to my existing 45mm and 75mm lenses.

I do have an "Opteka" 10x supplementary lens, 58mm fit, which I tried once and, again, couldn't get the eye in, but which is apparently well regarded. I'd be willing to let that go if you were interested? PM me if so.

tomphotofx
19th May 2013, 04:59 PM
The 60mm is so sharp you can cut yourself on it, here is a great review which just might persuade you to purchase.


http://robinwong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/olympus-mzuiko-60mm-f28-macro-review.html

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/09/21/olympus-60-2-8-macro/

Regards

Tom :)

yorky
19th May 2013, 05:38 PM
I would keep your 60 and use it with an adaptor. I doubt you will find anything as sharp as the 60. itried to 12-50 with macro facility, whilst its very good it isn't as sharp as the 35 macro.

shirley
19th May 2013, 05:57 PM
Thank you Tom and Stephen for your thoughts. You are right Tom the reviews give a very positive impression of the 60mm.
Yorky, do you mean keep the 50mm? I don't have the 60...yet :eek:

Janet
19th May 2013, 06:24 PM
Shirley, if it's of any use to you, I'm selling a 58mm Sigma achromatic macro lens adapter thingummy...let me know if you're interested. I bought it a while ago, but I've only ever used it once...

Janet

shirley
19th May 2013, 06:32 PM
Thank you Janet but I assume that's a four thirds lens and I already have the 50mm, I am looking for a m43rds lens for my omd.

Zuiko
19th May 2013, 07:07 PM
Thank you Janet but I assume that's a four thirds lens and I already have the 50mm, I am looking for a m43rds lens for my omd.

Shirley, what Janet has is a very high quality close-up filter with a 58mm thread. Could be just the thing......:)

shirley
19th May 2013, 07:19 PM
Ah thank you John and apologies to Janet. However I think 58mm thread will be too large for most micro four thirds lenses...or have I misunderstood?:confused:

Zuiko
19th May 2013, 07:27 PM
Ah thank you John and apologies to Janet. However I think 58mm thread will be too large for most micro four thirds lenses...or have I misunderstood?:confused:

It is too large for most MFT primes and slow standard zooms, but you could always use a step-up ring. It would actually suit me, if I wasn't saving every penny for a short trip to Scotland, as my Panasonic 14-45mm has a 52mm thread and my 40-150mm m.Zuiko has a 58mm thread. I already use 58mm filters on the 14-45mm with a step-up ring. :)

Andrew Riddell
19th May 2013, 09:52 PM
The mft 14-50 has a 58mm thread as well, and also takes the the MCON-P01 macro converter.

Andrew

Zuiko
19th May 2013, 10:41 PM
The mft 14-50 has a 58mm thread as well, and also takes the the MCON-P01 macro converter.

Andrew

Do you mean the 14-150mm, Andrew?

Andrew Riddell
19th May 2013, 11:09 PM
Yes, I do. Sorry for the typo!

Graham_of_Rainham
20th May 2013, 08:51 AM
You may want to consider the Panasonic 45mm Macro

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Panasonic-Lumix-Leica-DG-Macro-Elmarit-45mm-f-2-8-Lens-/140977137537?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item20d2e46781#ht_22wt_958

OlyPaul
20th May 2013, 09:00 AM
Ah thank you John and apologies to Janet. However I think 58mm thread will be too large for most micro four thirds lenses...or have I misunderstood?:confused:

Shirley I use that Sigma attachment lens on the m40-150mm which has a 58mm thread and get passable results with it.

E-PL3 and 40- 150mm with Sigma attachment

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8377/8578516858_378687fec8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_craftysnapper/8578516858/)
Pollen Gathering (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_craftysnapper/8578516858/) by The Craftysnapper (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_craftysnapper/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8095/8578517244_94d8bc2cd1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_craftysnapper/8578517244/)
Hoverfly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_craftysnapper/8578517244/) by The Craftysnapper (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_craftysnapper/), on Flickr

Ross the fiddler
20th May 2013, 10:43 AM
I highly reommend getting the Oly 60mm MFT macro lens.
Here is one of my early photos with it.
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/OB120922-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54380)

And another
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/OB201345-tl-cr-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54991)

And a crop of the above (with some rotation).
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/OB201345-xcr-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54992)

It works nice as a short telephoto lens too with lovely sharp results.
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/OB231357-cr-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54993)

Happy decision making. ;)

*chr

yorky
20th May 2013, 11:15 AM
Janet if you look at this site the cu is taken with the 105 sigma with EP l5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelsy/8757583190/in/photostream

Ross the fiddler
20th May 2013, 12:37 PM
Janet if you look at this site the cu is taken with the 105 sigma with EP l5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelsy/8757583190/in/photostream

While Sigma lenses are nice, they can only be obtained used now & are fine for 4/3's but on M4/3's are slow to focus (with the USM 150mm version only reliable with MF) & heavy. The dedicated Olympus 60mm macro lens on the otherhand is lovely & small, light, fast AF & splash proof which is just a perfect match on the OM-D EM5 & to top it off, isn't an expensive lens either. Some of these other options are OK if money is tight etc., but the Oly lens makes a great system & especially if already owning the FL36R flash too as it works quite well with it (as seen in my photos above). *yes :D

*chr

Ross the fiddler
20th May 2013, 12:52 PM
Janet if you look at this site the cu is taken with the 105 sigma with EP l5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelsy/8757583190/in/photostream

They are beautiful photos despite my comments above. *yes *yes

*chr

yorky
20th May 2013, 05:24 PM
Thank you Ross, I have the 12-50 macro lens but I find the 105, seems better though as you say its rather slow but for stationary subjects its fine. I wasn't aware that there was a 60mm in the micro4/3ds. I am saving for the new viewfinder for the EP L5.

mike_j
20th May 2013, 06:05 PM
I have been following this with interest though I like taking close up (flower size) rather than macro (insect size) and prefer a good operating distance. My present favourite is the 75-300mm M.Zuiko and it looks very good at screen resolution - I have posted a few pics here. At A3 it's still OK but not as good as I would like, though I am completely won over by IBIS and auto + manual focus for use in the field compared to my previous basic manual focus system.

What I would like is a really good fast autofocus 150mm f2.8 or thereabouts:- maybe one day.

The 60mm macro looks as though it is a nice lens but hasn't convinced me that I need it yet.

Greytop
20th May 2013, 08:28 PM
Here are some recent examples from the OM-D EM-5 and the 60 mm.

Sorry about the subject matter...

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5189953.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60627)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5189955_800.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60629)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5189956.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60631)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/P5189938.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60625)

I've recently posted some others here (http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26818) and here (http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26796). I hope this helps.

yorky
21st May 2013, 09:18 AM
Those are really good sharp piccies, they show the quality of the lens and photographer. Thanks very much for posting. Maybe I need to start saving though my next priority is the VHF4.

jamsa
21st May 2013, 02:20 PM
Has anyone bought an alternative lens hood for the macro lens, the original price of £45 is steep for a bit of plastic...;)

Ross the fiddler
22nd May 2013, 01:29 AM
Has anyone bought an alternative lens hood for the macro lens, the original price of 45 is steep for a bit of plastic...;)

Yes, the JJC version is available (for the Oly 60mm macro lens) on ebay & about half (or 2/3's) the price but appears to be just as good. http://www.ebay.com/itm/JJC-Lens-hood-for-olympus-M-ZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-60mm-f2-8-Macro-Lens-as-LH-49-/310665983184?

shirley
22nd May 2013, 07:28 AM
Just managed to catch up on this thread. Thank you so much for all your input...pics, links and everyfink!!!
I think I am veering towards going for the 60mm. It seems like a good replacement for the 50mm, but I will still keep an open mind.
In the meantime if anybody has a 60mm they would be interested in selling do PM me.

Thanks again

snaarman
22nd May 2013, 08:35 AM
Then again, you could buy a set of Kenko m4/3 extension tubes. Not cheap considering they have no glass in them. I use them with the 45mm for macro and the results are good, but you need to stop the lens down as it wasn't designed for this..


Plus you can park your other lenses on the tubes and give them a try...

Pete

Ross the fiddler
22nd May 2013, 10:12 AM
Then again, you could buy a set of Kenko m4/3 extension tubes. Not cheap considering they have no glass in them. I use them with the 45mm for macro and the results are good, but you need to stop the lens down as it wasn't designed for this..


Plus you can park your other lenses on the tubes and give them a try...

Pete

I will get the Kenko tubes soon to use with my Oly 60mm macro lens too. As I understand it, using both together (10mm and 16mm) with those focal lengths (45 & 60mm) is not desirable but to just use one or the other for usable results. Would that be right?