View Full Version : Live debate on the evolution of photography

22nd April 2013, 09:58 AM
Looking forward to joining host Nigel Atherton (What Digital Camera maagzine) , Richard Sibley (Amateur Photographer magazine), and Andy Westlake (DPReview) this coming Saturday afternoon for a live debate on the evolution of photography. The event is being held by the World Photography Organisation:


There is a live webcast but, alas, only viewable by WPO middle and top-tier members. Questions will be taken from a live audience (I understand anyone can purchase tickets to attend) and via Twitter (will post a hash tag once I know what it is!).

If you want to come along (you need a ticket) it's between 16.00 - 17.30 at the Strand Palace Hotel, London.

How about posting questions here too, or simply comments and observations?


22nd April 2013, 10:02 AM
Hash tag is #PhotoTALK. It would also help if you could tag questions @WorldPhotoOrg too.


22nd April 2013, 10:38 AM
Is anyone here a member of the World Photography Organisation?


22nd April 2013, 10:59 AM
Digital Technology has provided a vastly superior capability for experimental photography. I even use a digital camera to setup shots using a Bellows Macro stage then swap bodies to produce film transparencies. I can use digital in much the same way as I did Polaroid.

The ability to teach photography using digital cameras, is so much easier. Assessment of changes from camera setting, composition, etc., provided by digital technology, especially live view streaming is an exceptional facility.

Have fun Ian.

22nd April 2013, 06:52 PM
It's such a vast and diverse subject it's hard to know where to start. It would probably be easier if following the debate live, to see which way it turns. I suppose the big question is what next? What will be the next big thing, the next giant leap forward?

23rd April 2013, 01:39 PM
It's such a vast and diverse subject it's hard to know where to start.

As you often say "it's all about the light"... The rapid growth in LED technology may well provide a viable alternative to an increased range of lighting requirements that currently are the preserve of flash systems.

One thing I have often thought, has been overlooked is the function of a GN Lens. Often the simple adjustment of the aperture for different focal distances is easier to make than adjustments to power settings on the lighting. Yet this very simple function is, to my knowledge, not featured on modern cameras.

I often feel that manufacturers dictate the way we use a camera by virtue of the technology newly introduced, at the expence of features that are perhaps considered "Manual". One of my favorite metering systems was the "Multi-Spot" system (last seen on the Olympus C-8080WZ). It provided for excellent control of mixed and balanced lighting with the very simple sampling for lighting ratios, etc..

Simple "connectivity" enhancements should include WiFi links to control systems that turn off/on studio lights when the camera enters sleep mode and is then reactivated.

Of course, if you actually turn the camera off then the "Smart-kettle" is automatically switched on...:D

23rd April 2013, 04:42 PM
I guessing the most obvious question is whether the panel thinks there will be a decent implementation of on-chip hybrid PDAF/CDAF, perhaps with hundreds of focus points to choose from and what they see as the next big thing in focus technology (laser sighting?)

Next up is proper off the film (well, off the sensor) real time flash control, maybe with a few dedicated pixels on the sensor used for the purpose so the whole sensor does not have to be read (a slow operation).

23rd April 2013, 05:33 PM
Sounds an interesting event. I'll certainly drop by.

23rd April 2013, 06:51 PM
Some good feedback there - keep it coming! :)


24th April 2013, 10:43 AM
More and more often, I find myself using the cameras in either "Intelligent Auto" or Fully Manual. Has P, A & S had its day *???

Maybe the next level of "i" in iAuto could be "intuitive" where the camera responds to user input and adjust settings accordingly. By the user altering shutter speeds or detecting fast movement the camera in iAuto mode could intuitively maintain a set shutter speed and adjust aperture/ISO to achieve optimum results. Equally if the user was adjusting the aperture, the shutter/ISO would be controlled.

Some degree of "intelligent" control of DoF could be achieved by providing "spot focus" selection, where a near and far point having been selected by the user would be used to control the aperture and the optimum focus distance to optimise results.

So much of this is what we did (intuitively) for years as "old School" photographers and perhaps we need to remind ourselves to do so having fallen into the clutches of the all pervasive "I" ;)


Dan in NC
24th April 2013, 12:29 PM
Digital photography has enabled me to once again go from capture to print (via the "digital darkroom") and be able to do it myself with satisfying results. What really frustrated me about film photography during the 1990s was simply that I did not have access to a darkroom and had to rely on photo labs for my prints.

24th April 2013, 01:52 PM
And photo labs were very variable in my experience, too.


24th April 2013, 02:36 PM
Maybe the next level of "i" in iAuto could be "intuitive" where the camera responds to user input and adjust settings accordingly.

How about detecting the camera being panned, switching to a higher shutter speed, tracking some moving edge of the central target (a variant of CDAF focus technology perhaps), and combining the latter with IBIS to deliberately move the sensor at the same speed as the object being tracked at the moment of shutter release to ensure a crisp sharp image rather than a motion blur.

24th April 2013, 06:31 PM
Here is another one. I know some of these are currently possible but will these features be mainstream and with a user friendly UI rather than a clunky add on...
Full live real time connection from camera to connected device for:
live view
full camera operations including focus, aperture, shutter speed, iso, touch focus!, etc
automated backup of each image as it is taken
setting camera options, use of menu etc
storing, naming, and recall of named option sets,
automated bracketing, stacking, intervalometer
webcam broadcast option (using attached camera)

24th April 2013, 10:12 PM
How long before we see variable focal length liquid lenses in phone and micro compact cameras *???

24th April 2013, 10:24 PM
Upon reading this,how long before we send the camera out and sit at home, let the technology define the image, decide the print colour, print and put on the forum, all manual input redundant?

By the way, I am a member of the WPO.

25th April 2013, 03:00 PM
<snip> let the technology define the image, <snip> all manual input redundant?

That would be "Portrait Professional" then... ;)