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The Saint
28th March 2013, 08:24 PM
Looks like I'm going to have a busy weekend!

One of my building projects, a quite bland office development in London, completed this week. Before we handed it over to the client I managed to get an hour to walk around with the camera with the primary aim of getting some record photos (I quite often get asked by my colleague for details and to show the a photo normally makes it easier for them to understand).

So along the snaps, I challenged myself to try and get a few "interesting artist" images, which considering its primarily a square business park box was going to need a little creative thinking, also time was of a premium to avoid getting told off by the boss for not doing the day job.

Anyway with a mix of fisheye lens, HDR tinkering and interesting prospectives. I actually got a dozen or so images that I was quite pleased with.

When I was on-site the next day one of the site managers, who I bumped into while taking the images, was interested to see what I had done, so I popped the ipad out and let him flick through images. He was quite complementary, which obviously gave me a buzz and asked if I wouldn't mind emailing him a couple which I thought nothing of.

Today while I was back down on site tidying up some loose ends I got pulled into the office by one of the site directors and conversation went along the lines of:

Simon, I saw the images you took the other day, thought they were really good. (Getting that buzz again that someone appreciating my hobby).

As you know we have the project completion party a week Tuesday and got circa. 200 guests arriving. There's an ante room into the venue we are using which everyone will gather in.

Do you mind if we could use dozen or so of your images and display around the room as something of interest / talking point to keep the guest entertained before the formal speeches.

So my first response was, didn't you have your normal professional tog go around on Saturday, aren't you using any of his images?

To which the response was no (I've seen some of this guys work and he specialises in this field and is very good), so I'm now even more confused.

Anyway I'm now getting to the point thinking oh Bugger, would have been nice to know earlier as I would have taken the images to suit the audience.

As I'm writing this message now I thinking BUGGER BUGGER!!! Just realised that not only will the guys I work with on a day to day basis see the images along with senior people in my business, which isn't really a problem. Even the Client I'm not too worried about as I'm sure he would just appreciate a "nice photo". What has just dawned on me is the senior partners of the architects are likely to be there, these are some of the UK's top architects and here I am depicting their design, photographically, in front of some quiet influential people within the construction industry (brown pants time!).

To make matter worse, it's unlikely I'll be able to now gain access to the building again reshoot any of the images and apart from a very informal exhibition I did at work with my colleagues a few years ago to raise a few pounds for charity, I've never seriously presented any of my work.

So this weekend I'm going to be busy re-doing the PP on my images (as I only went to the level of detail suitable for low res on the Ipad) and trying to make the best of the situation with my limited skills.

Let's just hope there is lots of alcohol at the party!

Simon

gregles
28th March 2013, 08:30 PM
Get in there Simon and enjoy fella*yes

The Saint
28th March 2013, 08:36 PM
As a worrying oman, just had email from recruitment agency!

:eek:

Wee man
28th March 2013, 08:39 PM
Go for it remember if they do not go mad over them they do not have your photographers eye.

Zuiko
28th March 2013, 08:53 PM
They obviously like your pictuures as they are or they wouldn't have asked you to exhibit. Just process to full resolution as you did for the low res. The biggest problem might be getting the prints on time. Good luck - and enjoy it! *chr

LMGruchy
28th March 2013, 09:17 PM
Try to enjoy yourself. Well done.

Imageryone
28th March 2013, 09:59 PM
Don't knock it, the next time YOU may be the photographer of choice, how good would that be?

rutwij
3rd April 2013, 08:03 AM
This can only be a good thing! Commercial corporate and architectural photography is a good field to crack into! Congratulations and well done!!

Rutwij

wanderer
3rd April 2013, 08:32 AM
Well done.
Be pleased that someone else likes your pictures, wants to use them and that you now are a known talent in house.
Be pleased that another group will view them and may come to you with offers of work.
Now you have a superfast learning curve, so you should get to do it in work time.
I did a lot of photography 'ad hoc' for my office as part of my 'day' job.
Now I'm employed as a photographer and loving it.

The Saint
4th April 2013, 03:53 PM
The continuing saga......

Well unknown to me everybody has been on leave until today. So nothing further has been progressed other than me tweaking the image and getting a few new external ones on Tuesday while the sun was shining!

They haven't been to the venue yet, but I've got a layout of the room, which is circa. 7.5m by 10.0m with the intention that they put the images on easels on the two short ends and one long end (It's a grade 1 listed property so no sticking the images on the walls and unfortunately no picture rail). The lighting doesn't look that wonderful either!

So now for some advice. I was angling for DS Colour Labs to do the printing as I've always had a good experience with them, but this seams out of the question as the company who are organising the event doen't have an account with them and want to use Service Point instead. Has anybody had experience using them for photographic prints? Based on their website they look like they are set up to do photogrpahic prints but I'm not sure if they take the same care to detail that DSCL seam to have.

Also for speed the organisers are suggesting that Service Point mount the images too. What I have seen Service Point do is a boarderless mounting to Foamex board, which my gut is saying could be advantagious from a rigidity prospect on the easel's, the current thinking is the prints will be circa. 24 inches on the long edge (there is a mix of landscape, portraite and square). Again anybody got any hints, tips or other suggestions? I was originally thinking of a traditional mount with a white or black boarder and actually this might still define the edges of the images from the surroundings so might still see if we can go that way, the rooms quite ornate and obviously want to get and keep the attention on the images.

Service Point are saying they can turn the printing and mounting around in half a day, so hopefully if I can get the order in tomorrow morning (even maybe just the first couple) at least I can see the quality and still have Monday and Tuesday to source another solution if they don't perform.

There is also a chance I can get in the room tomorrow as well.

The images are only going to be on show for the evening, so I'm not looking for a long lasting solutions. But want to show the images in the best light possible, not only for me but everyone else who have put a lot of effort over the last 2 yrs actually designing and building it.

Any thoughts and suggestions are greatly apprecipated.

Simon

Graham_of_Rainham
4th April 2013, 04:37 PM
I'd go with the foam board mount and stick to uniform standard 40 x 50 (20" x 16") sizes.

Borderless prints can often look really good, but need to be displayed correctly. On an easel the bottom edge is "framed" so can distract. However as I guess most bottoms will be the floor of the building this may well work for you.

Very best of luck, and do please show us the results (including a shot of the displayed images)

*chr

Wee man
4th April 2013, 05:48 PM
Go with block mounts or the foam board ( can warp under lights).I used foam board and was pleased with the results but I could use the walls. Best of luck and remember to let us see the room setup and some of the shots.

Imageryone
4th April 2013, 06:06 PM
I have used Foamtex and really like the finish. I used sticky back Velcro to mount the board to framework, that way the whole picture is on view.

The Saint
4th April 2013, 06:07 PM
Thanks for the suggestions . I'll see what I can do on pictures of the room and if I can post any of the images. Unfortunately we are under quiet strict confidentiality clauses, although this is outside our contractural works.

Simon

wanderer
4th April 2013, 09:56 PM
I agree with the previous 3. They only have to be up for one evening. Sadly, they will probably be 'wallpaper' but they are yours, they are there and its your exhibition. The only worry is if someone decides 'Oh, we could use them at .....' My experience is that a 2nd exhibition using the same boards/prints will look tired. I would bet money you will get more work and the time and money to do it.

The Saint
4th April 2013, 10:04 PM
All I can imagine will happen to the images after the evening is they will either be trashed or be hidden away in the site office.

I'm not sure if there would be any future work out of this let alone paid...

But we can only hope.

I just enjoyed going around the site trying to think up creative images, made a change to the day job for an hour.

Just resized all the images to suit a 20 x 16, which I'm hoping will be big enough for the venue and wouldn't look too small.

Simon

The Saint
17th April 2013, 07:41 PM
Well an update with a few images!

Sorry for not getting back any earlier but it's been mad at work and I was away at the weekend.

So how did it go......

Well it was a right mess. I had meetings prior to the event and was meant to have an hour to help finish the setting up, but as you can probably guess meetings over ran and I ended up getting to the venue only 20 minutes before the party started (10 minutes before people started arriving).

When I got to the venue they were still putting the last of the easels, so not prepared at all. The easels were a right pain in the **** as the legs just went all over the place and trying to get them the same level, square and spaced was near impossible. I just ran out of time trying to get them to the standard I would have liked, but there was nothing I could do (after a few glasses of champagne I'm sure they looked level to most people!). In the end the images were printed to near A1 size on foamboard and I have admit they looked quite good, I wasn't sure if there would have been a drop off in quality at that size, but I needn't have worried.

Anyway, forgetting the presentation the comments I received were very good, a lot of them on the "arty feel" to the images rather than normal bland record photos.

The images have now been shared with the design team as they were of a quality equal if not surpassing what they would have got from their "pros" which is nice to know. One of the contractors also liked the image of his works so much that he offered to pay me for a copy (due to reasons I wouldn't go into I couldn't except, but nice to know they would have).

I've also been asked if I would be willing to do some more similar work in the future and get paid, so we'll see what comes out of that. A little pin money to go to the camera fund will never go amiss.

Simon

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http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Chis_4_of_41_.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Chis_34_of_41_.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Chis_26_of_41_1.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Chis_24_of_41_.jpg

http://www.e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Chis_31_of_41_.jpg

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PeterBirder
17th April 2013, 07:59 PM
Hi Simon.
These are great, I can see why your "audience" liked them, very "profesional". No. 5 is superb.

Thanks for sharing.*chr

wanderer
17th April 2013, 08:03 PM
Very nice. A clean crisp set.
I particularly like the juxtaposition of the waterfall (soft) and building (hard) in the last one.
I recognise the 'road' even the easels in half an hour.:D
I see where its going. Have fun. You're going to get paid to do what you do for fun.
Don't sell yourself short. Ask at least as much as you earn per hour.

rutwij
17th April 2013, 08:05 PM
Very nicely composed Simon! I like the one of the bathroom... very professional looking shot! The slow exposed waterfall was a nice touch!

Rutwij

OM USer
17th April 2013, 08:14 PM
Superb set, well done. Looks like you timed it well to use the best of the natural light (well, other than the bathroom & basement shot).

Bikie John
17th April 2013, 08:44 PM
Great photos, I'm not surprised they liked them. Maybe it helped that you were doing it for yourself, rather than working to a standard brief and producing standard results.

Here's hoping you can grow it from here.

Best wishes ... John

Zuiko
18th April 2013, 01:55 AM
Great photos, I'm not surprised they liked them. Maybe it helped that you were doing it for yourself, rather than working to a standard brief and producing standard results.

Here's hoping you can grow it from here.

Best wishes ... John

John, I'm sure you're right; "professional" means getting the job done on time to a certain standard, not necessarily with any creativity, inspiration or empathy with the subject - which Simon's pictures have in spades.

Well done, Simon! *chr

danellis
18th April 2013, 12:46 PM
Great set Simon :)

Love the one with the external stairs (no. 6?) - and what is it with architectural photo studies and bathrooms? Are bathrooms particularly architectural?? lol

dJE

Chevvyf1
18th April 2013, 01:10 PM
*chr C o n g r a t u l a t i o n 's *chr *chr C o n g r a t u l a t i o n 's *chr

Simon REALLY well done ! I LURVE the "eye" ball shot :) SO VERY Creative *chr *chr

*chr C o n g r a t u l a t i o n 's *chr *chr C o n g r a t u l a t i o n 's *chr

Ulfric M Douglas
18th April 2013, 01:52 PM
Very nice, no! Really, lovely *chr
but
if those are ARTY, what do the stock record photos look liike? :confused:

I was expecting artier, or weirder, or something.

The one contractor trying to buy some must've been a great feeling.

LMGruchy
18th April 2013, 02:07 PM
Well done, they look great.

alfbranch
18th April 2013, 10:35 PM
They are well shot and I really like them.

You should show youre work mate.*chr

Zuiko
19th April 2013, 09:37 AM
Very nice, no! Really, lovely *chr
but
if those are ARTY, what do the stock record photos look liike? :confused:



Often, but not always, the difference between accomplished amateur and professional is the pro is technically sound but creatively mediocre, who excells at marketing, whilst the amateur is inspired by the subject to invest just that little extra something into the photograph, but is pants at selling. :)

dive3dj
26th May 2014, 09:51 PM
I think they are outstanding!

D

pdk42
26th May 2014, 11:34 PM
Yes - fantastic shots. Well done. Great architectural interpretations.

As an observation though, is this an example of the professional photographer's lunch is being eaten? I'm not casting any judgements here - just an observation...

gazza95
27th May 2014, 06:37 AM
Great set of pictures there Simon.

Getting paid something is always a nice.

Gary

xperia
19th January 2015, 09:46 AM
From the title I was assuming stolen photos :x

Pistnbroke
23rd January 2015, 09:04 AM
Yes and the pro who works every day for a living would have charged for the prints to fund his £5000 Nikon D4...they are just looking for a cheap option...

The Saint
23rd January 2015, 09:21 AM
No professional was done out of any work in this case.

As there was no intention to display any images at the event until they saw what I done (I purely did it for our internal record process and as a bit of fun).

They also had a "real" paid professional take images as well for the corporate bouchures and the like.

Simon