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Dick Bowman
6th December 2007, 09:28 AM
Speculating...

Sometimes it seems the manual is opaque (perhaps that's just me - but surely the turn-off IS-on shake isn't "initialising").

Forum messages seem to come and go - over time it's hard to locate and sort the good from the bad - it's not a "reference" format.

In the olden days people published books like "how to use the Grotto X347" (I think - maybe I'm fantasizing). Not sure that the printed book is an appropriate vehicle nowadays (example - Adobe peddling a book about Lightroom 1.0 while the software is at 1.3).

Feeling that somewhere to turn to for an alternative reference might be welcome. Elsewhere the online Wiki format is popular - people seem to find them relatively easy to set up.

So - would an E-3 Wiki be a useful resource, and does anyone have the time/knowledge to kick it off?

Or has it already been done?

emirpprime
6th December 2007, 09:59 AM
Sounds like a good idea. You can get free ones at http://www.wikidot.com (sure there are other places too).

Alternatively we could have a tips forum maybe? Then you have one place to search here.

Another alternative is a blog. Again you can get free ones. What does everyone else think? Any comments Ian on whether to make it official or a community project?

Sound it be E3 only, or a section for each camera/general Oly DSLR?

Lets get it rolling :)

Whatever the form, I'm happy to help set up and run if wanted.

All the best,
Phil

Ian
6th December 2007, 11:00 AM
Sounds like a good idea. You can get free ones at http://www.wikidot.com (sure there are other places too).

Alternatively we could have a tips forum maybe? Then you have one place to search here.

Another alternative is a blog. Again you can get free ones. What does everyone else think? Any comments Ian on whether to make it official or a community project?

Sound it be E3 only, or a section for each camera/general Oly DSLR?

Lets get it rolling :)

Whatever the form, I'm happy to help set up and run if wanted.

All the best,
Phil

Well, I have just the thing already set up and waiting to go. It's not on this site and, to be frank, it was never part of the remit of e-group.uk.net. But there is a Mediwiki installation (same engine as Wikipedia) just raring to be populated with entries, over at our other site, Four Thirds User. See:

http://www.fourthirds-user.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

It's accessible via the Knowledge button from most pages there.

Ian

emirpprime
6th December 2007, 01:42 PM
Seems you're two steps ahead Ian. We'll have to get out typing caps on and start filling it out :)
Phil

Ian
6th December 2007, 01:48 PM
Seems you're two steps ahead Ian. We'll have to get out typing caps on and start filling it out :)
Phil

The Wiki has been there right from the start of FTU, but I haven't had the time to add articles to it. I'm not that well versed in the MediaWiki script either.

Are you familiar with wiki editing, Phil?

Ian

emirpprime
6th December 2007, 02:06 PM
I've toyed with it, but never got too involved. I'm well versed in html though (do my own sites, blogs etc), and AFAIK most Wikis just use a limited version of html. I look forward to learning :)
Do you have a structure in mind for it? Sectioned into User Reviews, Tips etc or anything like that?
I'd be pleased to have a look this afternoon and see if i can handle it and help out.

Phil

Ian
6th December 2007, 02:13 PM
I've toyed with it, but never got too involved. I'm well versed in html though (do my own sites, blogs etc), and AFAIK most Wikis just use a limited version of html. I look forward to learning :)
Do you have a structure in mind for it? Sectioned into User Reviews, Tips etc or anything like that?
I'd be pleased to have a look this afternoon and see if i can handle it and help out.

Phil

Mmmm - feel free to get stuck in and to experiment. I don't think it's like HTML at all though - so be warned :)

I will set up a public ftp account so pictures can be uploaded for the wiki if required.

Structure - good question. Best just get some articles entered and we can build the structure as we go along - which is one of the fun aspects of wikis as they aren't too dependent on structure and what structure there is evolves naturally.

Ian

DerekW
6th December 2007, 03:51 PM
Most books and websites define a process ie how do I do such and such...

- what is also needed is a way of selecting a problem and then getting the solution -
eg the incident I had with the flash gun which was caused by the selected AF setting.

or I put the camera on a tripod and in spite of using the IS the picture was blurred (allegedly)

The original Wiki is pretty strong in requiring an item of fact to have a URL to validate the information - would you expect the four3iki to be as demanding

emirpprime
7th December 2007, 10:50 PM
I have started on 2 pages accessible from http://www.fourthirds-user.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I will get quicker with the syntax as I get used to it, but the real time consumer is creating the content. So anyone with material or ideas for these pages or any others please get in touch :) Also if you see mistakes etc please speak up.

Hopefully we can build this into a really useful resource.

Phil


ps - feel free to edit/create pages yourself, but if not, drop me a line/post and I'll do it for you.

PeterD
8th December 2007, 01:12 AM
I have started on 2 pages accessible from http://www.fourthirds-user.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I will get quicker with the syntax as I get used to it, but the real time consumer is creating the content. So anyone with material or ideas for these pages or any others please get in touch :) Also if you see mistakes etc please speak up.

Hopefully we can build this into a really useful resource.

Phil


ps - feel free to edit/create pages yourself, but if not, drop me a line/post and I'll do it for you.

Thanks Phil. Looks like it will become very useful for all especially new E3 users - there are enough of us!;)

theMusicMan
8th December 2007, 09:25 AM
Yes, this could be useful, but might be better placed on this site rather than on t'other one Ian...?

Ian
8th December 2007, 10:12 AM
Yes, this could be useful, but might be better placed on this site rather than on t'other one Ian...?

Hi John!

Four Thirds User is a general site that is aimed at all Four Thirds Marques and is not specialised for one country. The information there can be shared with many more people than here. But there needs to be ease of access from here and the portal facility of this site will soon get the promised enhancements that be able to provide easily accessed links to all manner of useful information, both here and on other sites.

Ian

Ian
8th December 2007, 10:15 AM
I have started on 2 pages accessible from http://www.fourthirds-user.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I will get quicker with the syntax as I get used to it, but the real time consumer is creating the content. So anyone with material or ideas for these pages or any others please get in touch :) Also if you see mistakes etc please speak up.

Hopefully we can build this into a really useful resource.

Phil


ps - feel free to edit/create pages yourself, but if not, drop me a line/post and I'll do it for you.

Thanks Phil! Looking good. I hope that your efforts will act as a catalyst to get others to muck in. I must admit I was very wary of the concept of a wiki, where anyone has free access to the pages and an modify content there, but it's a proven concept. I will check regularly for spam and malicious updates.

Ian