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DJMC
6th November 2012, 05:43 PM
:confused:

I found myself looking at other 3rd party grips yesterday.

Something about the HLD-6 just doesn't seem right to me. Certainly the OM-D needs a grip for larger lenses, even the 14-150 which is my largest, but the position of the extra shutter button in landscape isn't very comfortable for me. My index finger just seems to be at an odd sticky-out-in-front angle, and I find it hard to adjust the rear dial with it attached (the grip that is, not my finger). I'd rather use the original shutter button but have something for my fingers to curl around.

I was looking at the jlm grip, as here: http://www.mu-43.com/f42/grip-option-27093/index10.html

I had a HLD-2 briefly for my E-1, but thought it overkill as: 1/ the E-1 is superbly ergonomic anyhow; 2/ I don't shoot portrait; 3/ I can replace a spent battery with a charged one; 4/ I don't need to look like a Pro.

Has anyone else here bought a 3rd party grip rather than the Oly one? How is it?

Thanks for your thoughts.

*chr

CJJE
6th November 2012, 06:02 PM
I was one of the lucky early adopters who got the Olympus grip free from Olympus UK. As such it was excellent value for money (even if built into the early camera price before discounts were available!)

I use the basic grip all the time and have no problems with it - and much prefer the camera with it than without it. As I haven't invested in a second battery, I don't use the bulky battery compartment section. (I used to have a similar grip with my Canon EOS camera, but in practice didn't get on too well with that either as it was too cumbersome, and didn't really help me even when using it for studio pics.)

johnh
6th November 2012, 07:19 PM
I also received the free Olympus grip,but found having to remove it to change the battery an inconvenience.I already own a number of RRS products so was very interested when they introduced a custom modular grip for the EM-5.It is now permanently attached to my camera.Details can be found here http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.aspx?code=BodyOlympusEM5&key=cat.

DJMC
6th November 2012, 07:22 PM
I also received the free Olympus grip,but found having to remove it to change the battery an inconvenience.I already own a number of RRS products so was very interested when they introduced a custom modular grip for the EM-5.It is now permanently attached to my camera.Details can be found here http://reallyrightstuff.com/Items.aspx?code=BodyOlympusEM5&key=cat.

Yes, I noticed that one too. It looked a little bulky though?

Any chance of posting some photos with you holding it? *chr

johnh
6th November 2012, 07:59 PM
There is a comparison picture on the RRS website but here are some of my camera.The grip is just as compact as the Oly and no heavier but with the other advantages of battery access and being a base plate for my ball head.

DJMC
6th November 2012, 08:15 PM
I guess your middle finger goes in the groove, yes?

How long have you had it, and apart from the battery changing advantage, how does it compare for comfort to the oly grip?
Is the (rather nasty) "Really Right Stuff" writing on the front of the base plate engraved into it or a sticker?

Did you also consider the jlm grip?

Thanks for the info.

;)

Seonnaidh
6th November 2012, 08:20 PM
Rather a useful looking piece of kit. I've got the Oly grip but very shortly I will be buying another OMD so I reckon one of these will do just fine.

Doug H
6th November 2012, 09:34 PM
I found the HLD-6 very useful in feeling more secure when holding the camera, especially with big lenses, but, like David, I didn't welcome the second button and kept turning the wrong wheel to get at the battery. My lower fingers also just 'didn't know what to do'.
I saw the RRS grip (which certainly looks good), but it didn't seem to deal with the issue of my lower fingers and am also am trying hard to downsize my gear so decided to rummage through my box of bits and found a Manfrotto Camera Bracket 143. By removing the extra screws and adding a metal loop and bolt (for a shoulder strap), I ended up with a cheap and cheerful DIY solution, which, at the moment, works for me as it solves the issue of what my fingers can hold onto, gives a nice rounded hold at the base of my thumb and maximises the use of the rubber thumb grip - which I really like.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/cAMBACKET1.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54139)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/CAMBRACKET2.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/54138).

The double tripod screw adds good security and is also easily removed when necessary. I don't really care what it looks like as long as it does the job - and my hand covers it most of the time anyway.

Doug

johnh
6th November 2012, 10:16 PM
I've had it since July.In terms of comfort there is a difference in that the Oly grip has its own release and control wheel and protrudes slightly further from the camera.With the RRS your first finger does the action while the second fits into the groove but I soon got used to this.My photos were taken with flash,in reality the laser etched name is very discreet-much smaller and less prominent than the OM-D OLYMPUS on the front of the camera.

CJJE
9th November 2012, 10:32 AM
Another option might be to go for the Gariz leather half cases? I don't have any experience of these, but they seem to provide additional grip to the front of the camera body while still leaving you access to the battery cover and rear screen.

http://www.lovecases.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/450x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/o/m/omdem5-bk-01.jpg

Details at http://www.lovecases.co.uk/gariz-genuine-leather-olympus-om-d-em5-half-case-black.html

StephenL
9th November 2012, 11:01 AM
I too got the full grip set free with my camera. I always use the first grip, but never the second. It's a matter of 30 seconds to change the battery - hardly inconvenient as you do get notice of battery depletion. As regards turning the rear dial, which for me is set to exposure compensation, I use my index finger to turn the front edge of the dial, not the rear.

Ross the fiddler
9th November 2012, 11:30 AM
I may as well mention what I made that works quite well too. It allows battery access, the grip is based on a Panasonic shape & is cork covered in leather over an aluminium structure with sling strap & grip connection points.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1457/thumbs/P7122418-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49040) http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1457/thumbs/P7112401-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49022) http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1457/thumbs/P7112400-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49021) http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1457/thumbs/O7090946-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=49017)

There is a plastic (said to be poured? epoxy?) one that is based on the E-PL1 shaped grip, but it is cheap & I don't think it would be very strong (mainly around the battery access point). I wouldn't like to trust it. Oh, & it's made in the USA.

David M
9th November 2012, 11:39 AM
I like the look of the RRS solution, it will fit all my tripod heads and allow a better grip for the very rare occasion I hand hold.

Alpha1
9th November 2012, 02:10 PM
Another option might be to go for the Gariz leather half cases? I don't have any experience of these, but they seem to provide additional grip to the front of the camera body while still leaving you access to the battery cover and rear screen.

http://www.lovecases.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/450x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/o/m/omdem5-bk-01.jpg

Details at http://www.lovecases.co.uk/gariz-genuine-leather-olympus-om-d-em5-half-case-black.html

I have used a Gariz case on my Fuji X1 Pro and I can confirm that it is very well made with good quality leather and a metal base with opening for battery replacement. It certainly protects the camera when out and about and as you say offers a decent handgrip.

My Fuji X1 Pro is going up for sale with three prime lenses and Gariz case as I prefer the OMD.

StephenL
9th November 2012, 02:13 PM
Must confess I do like the look of the Gariz case. Not so sure about the price though ....

Greytop
9th November 2012, 02:20 PM
I'm a big fan of the HLD-6 hardly ever off my camera.
No complaints :)

DJMC
9th November 2012, 02:51 PM
I may as well mention what I made that works quite well too. It allows battery access, the grip is based on a Panasonic shape & is cork covered in leather over an aluminium structure with sling strap & grip connection points.



Over the past few days I too have been toying with making my own custom grip using aluminium or delrin maybe. Flat base plate with adjustable grip consisting of three rotating eccentric mini drums (of ali or delrin), one for each of the three gripping fingers, tightened underneath by a bolt through all three drums when a comfortable final rotated position for each is found, then maybe covered by closed end shrink tubing for a warmer, grippier, tidier, finish.

I'm going to try it out in wood first to get an idea if it will work. Just sourcing the materials now. :rolleyes:

DJMC
13th November 2012, 12:38 PM
Must confess I do like the look of the Gariz case. Not so sure about the price though ....

I have one on its way to me today just to see if it satisfies my needs rather than a proper grip. The m14-150 is the largest lens I'll be using. If it doesn't suit, do you want 1st dibs?

I'm still going to have a go at the home made grip route though - watch this space for my 'attempt' in the coming weeks. :rolleyes:

StephenL
13th November 2012, 01:51 PM
I have one on its way to me today just to see if it satisfies my needs rather than a proper grip. The m14-150 is the largest lens I'll be using. If it doesn't suit, do you want 1st dibs?



Hmm ... not sure, the idea appeals but I rather like the HLD-6 Give me a PM if you do decide and I'll think about it.

BTW Have you already got the 14-150? I've decided to sell mine as I've "gorn off" most zooms!

benvendetta
13th November 2012, 01:54 PM
I think that some of these third party creations look hidious and spoil the beauty of the OM-D. The HLD-6 is far better looking IMO.

DJMC
13th November 2012, 03:00 PM
I think that some of these third party creations look hidious and spoil the beauty of the OM-D. The HLD-6 is far better looking IMO.

Wait until you see mine! :eek:

The JLM grip looks the oddest. RRS is too bulbous.

The HLD-6 is bound to look the best, but for me it just feels uncomfortable.

I think the Gariz (Garish?) half case looks good in plain black (the grained special edition doesn't match the OM-D grain on the silver model) but I can't see it offering much more sideways leverage than the bare body grip.

brian1208
13th November 2012, 03:16 PM
the full two part grip is never off my camera as I find that it is the most comfortable set-up for my hands. I only ever put the battery in the grip so never have the hassle of removing it to replace the battery in the body. The fact that I purchased it at full price tells you how important it was to me :)

(how come some people got the grip and are now getting the 45f1.8 as a "Freebie" when all I got was the useless camera case :mad: )

Ghostrider
13th November 2012, 03:24 PM
the full two part grip is never off my camera as I find that it is the most comfortable set-up for my hands. I only ever put the battery in the grip so never have the hassle of removing it to replace the battery in the body. The fact that I purchased it at full price tells you how important it was to me :)

(how come some people got the grip and are now getting the 45f1.8 as a "Freebie" when all I got was the useless camera case :mad: )

You're lucky! I bought mine between promotions and got nothing but a great camera!

DJMC
13th November 2012, 03:47 PM
the full two part grip is never off my camera as I find that it is the most comfortable set-up for my hands. I only ever put the battery in the grip so never have the hassle of removing it to replace the battery in the body. The fact that I purchased it at full price tells you how important it was to me :)

(how come some people got the grip and are now getting the 45f1.8 as a "Freebie" when all I got was the useless camera case :mad: )

Are your hands smaller than mine? My right hand is 90mm across the knuckles (four fingers). With my index finger forced forward by the HLD-6's shutter button my other three fingers struggle to find a grip due to the space between them and the grip.

:confused:

Ross the fiddler
13th November 2012, 09:55 PM
I think that some of these third party creations look hidious and spoil the beauty of the OM-D. The HLD-6 is far better looking IMO.

Except mine of course! :rolleyes: ;)

swing
18th November 2012, 06:08 PM
the full two part grip is never off my camera as I find that it is the most comfortable set-up for my hands. I only ever put the battery in the grip so never have the hassle of removing it to replace the battery in the body.
Indeed, I do the same. It may have helped that I've been using a Canon grip for the 5 years before I moved to the E-M5.

DJMC
19th November 2012, 05:07 PM
:)

I have the Gariz half case now and it is a definite imrovement over the HLD-6 for me. It may well be the best solution but I still have another grip on its way to me, and also the components to make my own. Just need these to arrive and my lathe man to recover from his jet-lag and we'll see what a balls-up really looks like. :rolleyes:

Give me another week or so and I'll make a final decision once I have the Gariz, mystery grip, and home made jobby all side by side to compare.

Oh... just remembered there's a fourth solution IF I can get to see my laser cutting matey at my shooting club on Saturday.


;)