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Kittykat23uk
21st September 2012, 09:32 AM
Help! I'm looking for a better beamer for my fl50r. But I can't seem to find anywhere in the uk that sell them. Can anyone recommend a place?

thanks

Jo.

Ian
21st September 2012, 09:35 AM
Hi Jo - not really sure what you mean by 'beamer'? :)

Ian

Kittykat23uk
21st September 2012, 09:57 AM
A Better Beamer Flash Extender FX-2

http://www.naturescapes.net/store/visual-echoes-fx-2-better-beamer-flash-extender.html

Ian
21st September 2012, 10:02 AM
I see - a telephoto lens for your flash :)

Simple hint that I am sure you may already be aware of is to ensure you zoom your flash head to 42mm when using these beamers.

Ian

Kittykat23uk
21st September 2012, 10:13 AM
Having never used the external flash (only just bought it) any tips are welcome so thank you for that! I plan to use it with my 50-200 for wildlife..

Invicta
21st September 2012, 10:38 AM
Wex Photographic have a similiar item called the Kirk Flash X-Tender.

Kittykat23uk
21st September 2012, 11:11 AM
Ah that's useful. Any idea which model I need?

Tordan58
1st February 2013, 10:15 AM
Hi,

By coincidence I happen to be looking for a similar device to fit my FL50R. I was recommended the "Better Beamer (http://www.naturescapes.net/store/better-beamer-flash-extenders/)" but this product seems to be hard to find in EU.

I was then directed to a second source "Visual Echoes Flash Extender (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Visual+Echoes+Flash+X-tender&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma)" which seems to do the same.

Have you managed to find out what FX1...FX6 model has best fit with the FL50R?

And do you know if there is a UK retailer that supplies it?

Cheers,
Tord

DerekW
1st February 2013, 10:42 AM
Be careful with the long lens and the flash you may get a big shadow from the lens so check it out before hand - you may have to have the flash raised well above the camera.

Ross the fiddler
1st February 2013, 10:47 AM
There's a guy in Victoria that used to use one for birding with Olympus gear (before he went to the dark side, C***n) & it's necessary, really, when using the 70-300 (or similar lenghts) lens at some distance, like sitting way back in the hall during graduation of our children (young adults) & not getting the best exposure without a matching zoom on the flash to equal the lens.

Graham_of_Rainham
1st February 2013, 11:45 AM
Type "Fresnel Lens" into eBay and all sorts of things come up that can easily be "Macgyvered" into one of these for a few quid.

I've made many types of Flash Modifiers for very little money. It's fun, free and can be easily modified to get just what you want.

I only spend good money on good glass... :cool:

Tordan58
1st February 2013, 12:36 PM
Type "Fresnel Lens" into eBay and all sorts of things come up that can easily be "Macgyvered" into one of these for a few quid.

I've made many types of Flash Modifiers for very little money. It's fun, free and can be easily modified to get just what you want.

I only spend good money on good glass... :cool:
Thanks for the hint.

May I ask what lens material/size/focal length you have tried and which ones that were to satisfaction? For reference I intend to the extender with focal lengths in the range 300 - 600 mm.

May I also ask material did you use when manufacturing the side supports? Plastic? I suppose that it should be possible to achieve a near perfect fit if paying attention to details. Being handy and skilled helps...

Thanks,
Tord

Imageryone
1st February 2013, 02:13 PM
Honitoncameras on E-Bay have one, New but old stock 25.00.

Just put BetterBeamer flash x-tender in e-bay search.

Jim Ford
1st February 2013, 03:19 PM
IIRC you need to be careful with these. If you accidentally point it at the sun you can melt the flash lens.

Jim

David M
1st February 2013, 03:28 PM
Or the body of the flash, basically anything the fresnel can focus the sun on.

You could always e-mail Greg at naturescapes and ask if he knows of a UK supplier. If I remember correctly the better beamer is made by a member on naturescapes.

Graham_of_Rainham
1st February 2013, 04:40 PM
Thanks for the hint.

May I ask what lens material/size/focal length you have tried and which ones that were to satisfaction? For reference I intend to the extender with focal lengths in the range 300 - 600 mm.

May I also ask material did you use when manufacturing the side supports? Plastic? I suppose that it should be possible to achieve a near perfect fit if paying attention to details. Being handy and skilled helps...

Thanks,
Tord

Hello Tord,

I'd go for something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-Fresnel-Convex-Lens-Magnifier-Sub-A4-sized-260-X-177mm-Solar-Firelighter-/120872074185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c24897bc9 as it has a X3 magnification which gives it a better working distance than a simple page magnifier.

I always prototype with photo mount board which is black on one side and white on the other, giving me a choice of reflective or non-reflective.

Double sided tape, Electrical PVC Tape, Aluminium foil, plastic milk containers, honeycomb board, plastic sheet, foam & virtually anything that will do the job.

The silver "Life-Saver" emergency blankets make great reflectors and get used a lot, for all sorts of things (including keeping the models warm)

I may well get one of these to "play" with: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Multi-Image-25-Section-Diverging-Fresnel-lens-165-X-174mm-/120872087392?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2489af60

I'll have to hunt around the school and find an old OHP, they have them inside ;)

Here are a few bits I've cobbled together. They don't look much, but they really do work.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Flash_Mods.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/57054)

Have fun...

Tordan58
4th February 2013, 07:35 AM
Thanks,
I placed an order and will try to manufacture some device that hopefully is found functional. The focal length of the lens is specified 300mm if I got it right, useful to know when designing.
/Tord