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Jim Ford
23rd June 2008, 09:07 PM
Anyone know where I can get a replacement, please?

(Luton Cameras don't list it)

Jim

Who's_E
23rd June 2008, 09:27 PM
No, but mine is numbered as an EP-7 so you could try and Google that

Nick

gno
23rd June 2008, 09:48 PM
They list an eye piece here for an Olympus not sure if its the same

http://www.buyspares.co.uk/

Regards

Gavin

emirpprime
23rd June 2008, 09:51 PM
Last resort, many Oly specialist dealers should be able to order them. LCE shops are a good bet as they support Oly pretty strongly. I know Norwich to be very helpful but I'm sure there are others. Digital Depot in sstevenage might be worth a try too.
Phil

Nick Temple-Fry
23rd June 2008, 09:54 PM
Luton Cameras only list part of their spares inventory on the web, it is worth giving them a quick phone call.

Nick

theMusicMan
24th June 2008, 05:54 AM
You might want to try the EP-6 eyepiece as this is deeper and in my opinion fits more keenly on the eye than the default eyepiece.

Here's a link...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Olympus-EP-6-LARGE-Eyecup-Evolt-E500-E510-E410-E420_W0QQitemZ370043000735QQihZ024QQcategoryZ50493 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

Haisbro
10th July 2008, 07:46 PM
Anyone know where I can get a replacement, please?

(Luton Cameras don't list it)

Jim

I've lost mine as well. Clearly a design fault. Product recall imminent!:D

Thanks all for the info how to get replacement.

David

Jim Ford
10th July 2008, 08:04 PM
Picked one up at SRS in Watford - 7.99.

Jim

Haisbro
10th July 2008, 08:19 PM
Picked one up at SRS in Watford - 7.99.

Jim

Even better a UK option. Thanks Jim

David*chr

Wreckdiver
10th July 2008, 08:28 PM
I think this is going to be a problem with the E-3 :( On several occasions my eyepiece has come off, mainly when putting the camera back in the bag. One day I am sure I am going to fail to notice.

If Oly are reading this, please note.

Steve

Nick Temple-Fry
10th July 2008, 08:42 PM
Initially when I had my E-3 I was regularly finding the eyecup was dislodged when placing it in the bag - at that stage a medium size camera backpack. Quite frankly the camera was too thick for the space between the fixed dividers and the top of the bag (or maybe you could say the fixed dividers were too long).

I now use a Tamrac Velocity 9x, which is one of those sling bags, where the camera is supported with the lens dangling down. Swallows my E-3 (which I use without grip), 50-200, Sigma 135-400 + ec1.4, 11-22, 35mm, plus oddments in the outer pocket. So far (6 odd months +) the eyecup has remained happily in place.

Nick

PeterD
11th July 2008, 12:31 AM
I reported this problem to oly and posted a thread on this site about the problem soon after I got my E3 last year. I think that they have a tolerance tiering problem and said as much. A few days later, I got a free replacement from Oly at Watford. Last week I lost another one....damn:(.

The E500 eyepiece fits so I have 'borrowed' it until I get another replacement. You can see the difference in the E500 and E3 eyecup mounts in my old gallery. Its the one without an identified owner.

Cheers

Peter

Henk
11th July 2008, 05:12 AM
There was a thread on this subject some time ago and Steve (250swb) had a working solution for it:

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?p=13759#poststop

art frames
11th July 2008, 07:54 AM
You can see the difference in the E500 and E3 eyecup mounts in my old gallery. Its the one without an identified owner.

Cheers

Peter

I have searched and looked for the gallery without a name and cannot find it Mods can you put a link to these pictures to help please.

I am not wanting to lose my eyecup too. I am going to squeeze the sides as suggested.

art frames
11th July 2008, 08:23 AM
I have searched and looked for the gallery without a name and cannot find it Mods can you put a link to these pictures to help please.

I am not wanting to lose my eyecup too. I am going to squeeze the sides as suggested.

I have now tightened up the screws and that made very little difference but in my toolbox I found some black vinyl electrical tape which I have used to create a tighter fit in a couple of places and also wrapped a piece through the bottom of the eyepiece (as the rubber isn't attached here!) onto the body. I will need to replace that from time to time but it is now far more secure if a little bodged.

Two points I noted, it is most lose-able as it goes in and out of the free Olympus rucksack. I noted that putting it away is the moment it pops off and also the camera gets turned on - until now I thought I'd left the camera switched on from time to time (but no, it isn't me, it is the action of backplate rubbing against that horrible orange textured fabric and I'll need to think how to modify that too).

But why doesn't the eyepiece deserve a grub screw or metal to metal finish (rather than plastic)? This is supposed to be pro gear and if it were pro 'audio' gear it would be far better finished and would lockdown.

Peter

PeterD
11th July 2008, 10:24 AM
I have now tightened up the screws and that made very little difference but in my toolbox I found some black vinyl electrical tape which I have used to create a tighter fit in a couple of places and also wrapped a piece through the bottom of the eyepiece (as the rubber isn't attached here!) onto the body. I will need to replace that from time to time but it is now far more secure if a little bodged.

Two points I noted, it is most lose-able as it goes in and out of the free Olympus rucksack. I noted that putting it away is the moment it pops off and also the camera gets turned on - until now I thought I'd left the camera switched on from time to time (but no, it isn't me, it is the action of backplate rubbing against that horrible orange textured fabric and I'll need to think how to modify that too).

But why doesn't the eyepiece deserve a grub screw or metal to metal finish (rather than plastic)? This is supposed to be pro gear and if it were pro 'audio' gear it would be far better finished and would lockdown.

Peter

Peter

These are the photos I mentioned

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/medium/E3_Eyecup_Body.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/807)

E3 & Eyecup


http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/E500_Eyecup_Body.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/808)

E500 & eyecup

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/E3_LHS_Eye_Cup_Mount.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/859)

Close up LHS E3 eyecup mount

Note the difference in the mounts and yet the eyecups are interchangeable!
The main problem seems to be that the tolerances between these two components on the E3 is wrong and therefore there is a high susceptability for these to be dislodged on some (most?) E3s.

I hope my post to Olympus has caused them to verify the problem and adjust the body casting accordingly. I was the only one with the problem but, I have seen several posts since.

Peter

art frames
11th July 2008, 10:45 AM
Peter

Thank you for those pictures. Clearly you can find them somehow with the system as it is???

The photos do show the flange on the E3 is adapted for no clear reason. It is this which allows the eyepiece to turn and flex more than the e500.

I have never seen any reason for this and as you say the numbers of lost eyepieces are growing. I'd personally call it a warranty fault for the next two years. Just so they have to see the numbers in head office.

I see no way that Oly could adapt the casing but a locking screw could be added with better eyes than mine.

Peter

DerekW
11th July 2008, 12:16 PM
The E3 eyepiece is a disaster all round. The E1 had a very positive bayonet type lock that required the eyepiece to be rotated to remove it. This worked well with the angle viewer (VA-1).

With the E3 the VA-1 requires that the adapter for the E3 is replaced on the VA-1 - however the adapter stays on the camera body when the VA-1 is removed from the E3 and so a separate action of removing the adapter from the camera and fitting it back on the VA-1 is required - definitely a step backward compared to the E1.

PeterD
11th July 2008, 02:31 PM
Peter

Thank you for those pictures. Clearly you can find them somehow with the system as it is???

The photos do show the flange on the E3 is adapted for no clear reason. It is this which allows the eyepiece to turn and flex more than the e500.

I have never seen any reason for this and as you say the numbers of lost eyepieces are growing. I'd personally call it a warranty fault for the next two years. Just so they have to see the numbers in head office.

I see no way that Oly could adapt the casing but a locking screw could be added with better eyes than mine.

Peter

They are all together as a personal gallery but with the user name deleted. They have always been this way and that is why I find it hard to understand why the user name could not be simply added. They are not scattered which would give rise to a problem. I can only guess that this is a task that constantly being placed at the bottom of the list and hence it has taken close on 4 months so far. Never mind - be patient.

For those interested. Go to Members galleries, select 'views' from the drop down and set order to 'descending' You will find the fourth user gallery is un-named. Thats the one that belongs to me. I have not found any other way of accessing it as the username link is broken.

Cheers

Peter

art frames
11th July 2008, 03:00 PM
They are all together as a personal gallery but with the user name deleted. They have always been this way and that is why I find it hard to understand why the user name could not be simply added. They are not scattered which would give rise to a problem. I can only guess that this is a task that constantly being placed at the bottom of the list and hence it has taken close on 4 months so far. Never mind - be patient.

For those interested. Go to Members galleries, select 'views' from the drop down and set order to 'descending' You will find the fourth user gallery is un-named. Thats the one that belongs to me. I have not found any other way of accessing it as the username link is broken.

Cheers

Peter

Peter an exciting way of navigating to your 108 pictures alternatively I suggest you add the following to your signature

the lost galleries of E-System can be found at ... http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=52

which does the same thing.

alternatively those with the system might be able to make you and user 52 the same and who knows you might be back in business.

take care.

Peter

Graham_of_Rainham
11th July 2008, 03:09 PM
Anyone know where I can get a replacement, please?
Jim


I've got a brand new one, only 750 with a free Brand New (but Dead) E-3 attached. :)

Graham

PeterD
11th July 2008, 03:23 PM
I've got a brand new one, only £750 with a free Brand New (but Dead) E-3 attached. :)

Graham

Seriously, I think you have good grounds to make a warranty claim. Try it as I shall. Perhaps Oly will then think about a fix.

Peter

PS oops. This was in reply to Jim. Sorry Graham

Westy
11th July 2008, 03:48 PM
I have got to admit that since trying the fix mentioned my eye piece hasn't yet shown any signs of coming loose or falling off. I loosened both screws pinched the eyepiece together by about 2mm and whilst still pinching the eyepiece re tightened the screws.The eyepiece was nice and tight when pushing it back on, I quite honestly believe I would struggle to get it off now.:confused:

Jim Ford
11th July 2008, 03:57 PM
I've got a brand new one, only 750 with a free Brand New (but Dead) E-3 attached. :)

Do I detect a tone of irony in your posting, Graham?

Jim

PeterD
11th July 2008, 04:23 PM
I have got to admit that since trying the fix mentioned my eye piece hasn't yet shown any signs of coming loose or falling off. I loosened both screws pinched the eyepiece together by about 2mm and whilst still pinching the eyepiece re tightened the screws.The eyepiece was nice and tight when pushing it back on, I quite honestly believe I would struggle to get it off now.:confused:

Therin lies the rub. To clean the rear viewfinder properly, the eye piece should be removed.

Peter

250swb
12th July 2008, 09:51 PM
As the poster of the original 'fix' I think I should explain how it works.

The idea of gently pinching the sides in together is simply to take the tension off the screws as you tighten them. The aim if in doubt is to further distort the plastic plate more than the factory tolerance, not set the sides of the eyepiece further inwards (those two big prongs at the bottom of the plate, shown very well in the photo's above, are almost irrelevent). The plate has two wedge shaped ramps near the top, and as you tighten the plate into the main eyepiece body these are pushed outwards, thus making a tighter grip on the camera body.

All I can say is my eyepiece hasn't fallen off any of my Olympus cameras since doing this same mod across them all. It is clearly the way it was designed, an adjustable pair of screws, and clearly Olympus are on the margins of having them tight enough.

I can't think it is a good enough reason to redesign the camera castings with a further unknown outcome when the solution is already built into the current equipment, hopefully ;-)

Steve