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Footloose1949
11th July 2012, 09:15 AM
I already have the 4/3rds version of this wonderful lens, but it's bulk in comparison to the m4/3rds version when used on the OM-D, is a bit OTT. Has anyone seen a review comparing the image quality of these two? I know the 4/3rds version is built a lot better, but the other, is dramatically smaller and lighter. However, because the difference in rear element to sensor distance is likely to have a negative impact on one of these, I'm left wondering which of these, has been 'compromised'? I wouldn't mind meeting up with someone with the m4/3rds version, but seriously doubt because I've never seen a 7-14mm being used by anyone else, if someone lives a reasonable distance from Reading, in the Uk.

Ian
11th July 2012, 09:41 AM
I concur with Andy Westlake's review on dpreview - yes, I'm linking you to dpreview!:

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/panasonic_7-14_4_o20/5

The Panasonic 7-14 is excellent in most respects but do expect to have to correct CA. Maybe a good alternative is the Olympus m.Zuiko 9-18, which is also a lot smaller and lighter, plus cheaper.

Ian

DekHog
11th July 2012, 10:01 AM
The Panasonic 7-14 is excellent in most respects but do expect to have to correct CA. Maybe a good alternative is the Olympus m.Zuiko 7-14, which is also a lot smaller and lighter, plus cheaper.

There is no M.Zuiko 7-14mm? Did you mean the 9-18mm? The CA from the 7-14mm on an Olympus body is very easily corrected in Lightroom.....

StephenL
11th July 2012, 10:06 AM
If you call Edinburgh a reasonable distance, you can come up here to check my Panny 7-14 ....

snaarman
11th July 2012, 10:10 AM
I concur with Andy Westlake's review on dpreview - yes, I'm linking you to dpreview!:
Ian

Careful. Don't get lost in those long dark corridors. They're full of Trolls....

Kiwi Paul
11th July 2012, 12:34 PM
If you read their review of the m9-18 it gets a very good one too and I concur with that although can't say the CA's have ever been bad.

Paul

Ian
11th July 2012, 12:39 PM
Careful. Don't get lost in those long dark corridors. They're full of Trolls....

I know Andy Westlake quite well and we end up talking for what seem like hours when we meet up - I certainly trust his work. Thankfully it's separate from troll city! :D

Ian

Ian
11th July 2012, 12:40 PM
There is no M.Zuiko 7-14mm? Did you mean the 9-18mm? The CA from the 7-14mm on an Olympus body is very easily corrected in Lightroom.....

Ooops - thanks for spotting that, have corrected it in my post!

Yes, Lightroom 4 CA correction works amazingly well with just one click.

Ian

StephenL
11th July 2012, 01:39 PM
FWIW, this was taken using the Panny 7-14mm at 7mm.

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/500/gh2-1000552.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/21246)

snaarman
11th July 2012, 02:04 PM
FWIW, this was taken using the Panny 7-14mm at 7mm.

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/500/gh2-1000552.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/21246)

Woo! What a monster. I bet you get no aggro at all with a dog that size. Awesome :)

Cathrine Stephansen
11th July 2012, 03:31 PM
For some comparison, here are a few dogs photographed from above with the Oly Four thirds 7-14 mm. At 7 mm. I have a thing about dogs noses :D

All taken against a white background.

Roxy the Australian shepherd:
http://csspikkerud.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v25/p430555164-5.jpg

Nila the cross breed:

http://csspikkerud.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v22/p439657029-5.jpg

And my very own Emil the springer spaniel.
http://csspikkerud.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v26/p125603782-5.jpg

http://csspikkerud.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v13/p95605246-5.jpg

Footloose1949
11th July 2012, 05:59 PM
Sorry DekHog, should have spotted that one, I have, and am referring to the 4/3rds 7-14mm Zukio zoom; I bought this in 2006 pretty soon after the E1 body, also have an E3 and now, OM-D. Have just read the DPReview's Panny 7-14mm review, it's sadly not much good as I'm looking for a Panny (Lumix) Vs Zukio 7-14mm comparative review. Strangely, when summing up this lens, they refer to it being cheaper than the 9-18mm, but make no mention that it's cheaper than the Zukio 7-14mm, which should be the lens they match it up against, rather than the 9-18mm ... As usual, the Zukio, is ignored, as it is invariably the case when magazines do any ultra/super-wide group tests.

Maybe this is because (tongue-in-cheek, whilst holding a big spoon!) the reviewers are mainly Nikon/Canon fanboys and hate being reminded that these two manufacturers still have yet to produce an APS-C zoom which comes near it, even though since 2010, (to rub even more salt in this wound) Sigma began producing in 2010 a 8-16mm zoom (for APS-C users) which is 0.5 degrees wider than Zukio and Panny's 7-14mm zoom ... Come to think of it, THAT lens also doesn't appear in ultra/superwide zoom group tests either .... !!

George Dorn
11th July 2012, 08:21 PM
Cathrine, that last photo makes Emil look like he has some Moomintroll in him :)

Footloose1949
12th July 2012, 12:48 AM
Catherine, those are some superb images! I'm guessing that getting them to pose as you wanted, was a bit of a challenge! ... Maybe you used wine-gums?

Cathrine Stephansen
12th July 2012, 10:16 PM
Cathrine, that last photo makes Emil look like he has some Moomintroll in him :)

Hmmm. You're right! I'll have to ask his breeder :D

Cathrine Stephansen
12th July 2012, 10:21 PM
Catherine, those are some superb images! I'm guessing that getting them to pose as you wanted, was a bit of a challenge! ... Maybe you used wine-gums?

Actually, they were all easy to work with, all are used to working for treats. (No such thing as a free pose...)

This one isn't with the 7-14, though, but just to show you those two lovely dogs (sadly not mine ;))
http://csspikkerud.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v21/p63804128-5.jpg

David Morison
18th September 2012, 07:00 AM
I have read reviews on the Panasonic 7-14mm and I don't find it convincing enough to consider selling my Olympus 7-14 to fund one. I have often used the Olympus on the E-M5 and although the AF is a bit slow, this isn't a fag for the subject matter I use this lens for. With the battery grip fitted I don't find the Olympus 7-14mm OTT at all and the undoubted IQ, possibly unequalled, is worth any additional weight carried.

David

StephenL
18th September 2012, 08:28 AM
I have read reviews on the Panasonic 7-14mm and I don't find it convincing enough to consider selling my Olympus 7-14 to fund one. I have often used the Olympus on the E-M5 and although the AF is a bit slow, this isn't a fag for the subject matter I use this lens for. With the battery grip fitted I don't find the Olympus 7-14mm OTT at all and the undoubted IQ, possibly unequalled, is worth any additional weight carried.

David

If you're happy enough with the extra weight, I would concur.

I was happy with my Panny 7-14 (which I sold because it wasn't getting enough use), but if I had to compare it with my Oly 7-14 (using hindsight, as I no longer own that lens either), I would have to say that the Oly, as with most Olympus glass, has that certain "something" that, in the main, Panasonics just don't have. I'm not talking pure sharpness, just a sort of extra clarity. Difficult to explain, but I think that's where Olympus beats Panasonic.