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DJMC
11th June 2012, 12:04 PM
:confused:

A year ago I posted a thread regarding some E cameras' inability to reproduce purple, here: http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16189

From my own tests I've found that the following cannot reproduce purple JPEGs, turning them blue: E-510; E-600; E-620; E-3

These CAN do purples: E-1; E-PL1, E-PL2; XZ-1

Can anyone tell me which camp the OM-D falls into?

Whilst not particularly interested in buying an OM-D at present, I do keep looking at them and this will be one of my deciding factors.

Thanks for any help!

;)

OlyPaul
11th June 2012, 12:57 PM
You missed the E-30 of the cannot do list.;)

DJMC
14th June 2012, 10:44 AM
*yes

Ah... got it!

All you 1000 OM-D owners have rushed out to check the 'purple' query, found that your flowers turn out blue, and are too embarrased to admit you've therefore smashed your OM-D into pieces with a club hammer on the patio! :rolleyes:

Seriously though, I DO expect the OM-D to do purples because the PL1 and PL2 can and I have this strange thought that being m43, not 43, the OM-D should too?

Anyone?

:confused:

snaarman
14th June 2012, 10:54 AM
I looked at this challenge and tried to think of something purple, but ground to a halt. What did you have in mind?

Pete

DJMC
14th June 2012, 11:18 AM
I have purple pansies in my garden....

E.g. E-600....

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1253/E-600_colour_3.JPG

E-1....

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1253/E-1_colour_3.JPG

Janet
14th June 2012, 12:03 PM
I simply HAD to find something purple to see if my e510 could reproduce it, as your comments intrigued me. I've never noticed any problems with colour?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5152/7186282711_87732ece6b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janetstansfield/7186282711/)

Unfortunately, one of the neighbours came out as I was taking the photo a few minutes ago and looked at me as though I was barking mad!

Photo is SOOC jpeg with no tweaking.

Janet

DJMC
14th June 2012, 12:17 PM
I simply HAD to find something purple to see if my e510 could reproduce it, as your comments intrigued me. I've never noticed any problems with colour?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5152/7186282711_87732ece6b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/janetstansfield/7186282711/)

Unfortunately, one of the neighbours came out as I was taking the photo a few minutes ago and looked at me as though I was barking mad!

Photo is SOOC jpeg with no tweaking.

Janet

Interesting... custom settings galore? Whatever I set, I could never get my 510 to do that!

:rolleyes:

Janet
14th June 2012, 12:21 PM
Nope, no custom settings - well, at least none that I'm aware of! I've certainly not changed anything since I bought it.

I just put the camera on auto and that was the result.

Janet

DJMC
14th June 2012, 12:51 PM
Maybe I had a duff 510?.... and 600, and 620, and E-3!!

Anyway.... how about the OM-D....?

:rolleyes:

Ian
14th June 2012, 01:06 PM
Are we only referring to camera JPEGs? What about RAW?

Ian

DJMC
14th June 2012, 01:18 PM
Are we only referring to camera JPEGs? What about RAW?

Ian

JPEGs only. I'm still scared of RAW due to the PP implications/time!

This was an earlier thread of mine where I did manage to adjust the blue to purple in JPEG PP: http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16189

OlyPaul
14th June 2012, 01:28 PM
Are we only referring to camera JPEGs? What about RAW?

Ian

It depends on the raw processor.

Lightroom turns them out blue but if you use the Huelight profile for the E-30 and E-620 it corrects it.

Adobe Standard Profile on the Left and Huelight Profile on the Right

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1439/Picture00013.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47929)

Capture One 6 gets it right .

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1439/Web1.JPG (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47930)

Ross the fiddler
14th June 2012, 01:29 PM
How about vlolet?

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/O6140159-s.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=47931)

Resized in Olympus Viewer 2

OlyPaul
14th June 2012, 01:40 PM
Off course the advantage of it making purples blue is that for once Bluebells actually come out blue! ;)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1421/Bluebells10.JPG (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47932)

snaarman
14th June 2012, 02:53 PM
I know there's no purple involved, but I wonder if this might be part of the problem:

Here are two pictures taken moments apart today in the shade. These are from the E-M5 using Auto White balance and are out of camera jpeg files.
The top one is what the camera thinks is the correct White Balance based on what it can see, which is all browns and greens. Look what happens in the bottom picture if you introduce a reference grey card set* ! Suddenly it has proper greys whites and blacks to grab on to and the true colours appear.


http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/622/EM540978.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47937)

So, here's my thought. The E-1 measures it's White balance in a different manner. It has a little white window that looks at the sky. I think it decides from that what the best WB is based on some preset values (maybe it is even cleverer). Anyway, the E-1 it isn't fooled by the subject matter because it is looking elsewhere...

So if you point an E-1 at a scene and an E-510 then they will probably come to different WB conclusions.

Pete


*If you want to impress folks, take a tripod. If you want to impress another photographer, take a big tripod. If you want to impress another photographer who also has a big tripod, take a set of grey cards out :-)

DJMC
14th June 2012, 02:56 PM
Call me old fashioned, but 30 years ago I was used to using my OM-2n to take a photo with only the options to adjust aperture/speed (& focus) before I pressed the button, and that was that.

So now I still tend to do the same and want to see the final result on my screen without fiddling around in PP. That's why I need a camera that reproduces what I see in the VF.

The E-1 is still vastly complicated compared to the OM-2n, but it does mostly do what I need, as do the XZ-1 and E-PL2.

Colour rendition in OOC JPEGs must therefore be right first time for me.

;)

DJMC
14th June 2012, 03:28 PM
I know there's no purple involved, but I wonder if this might be part of the problem:

Here are two pictures taken moments apart today in the shade. These are from the E-M5 using Auto White balance and are out of camera jpeg files.
The top one is what the camera thinks is the correct White Balance based on what it can see, which is all browns and greens. Look what happens in the bottom picture if you introduce a reference grey card set* ! Suddenly it has proper greys whites and blacks to grab on to and the true colours appear.


http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/622/EM540978.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47937)

So, here's my thought. The E-1 measures it's White balance in a different manner. It has a little white window that looks at the sky. I think it decides from that what the best WB is based on some preset values (maybe it is even cleverer). Anyway, the E-1 it isn't fooled by the subject matter because it is looking elsewhere...

So if you point an E-1 at a scene and an E-510 then they will probably come to different WB conclusions.

Pete


*If you want to impress folks, take a tripod. If you want to impress another photographer, take a big tripod. If you want to impress another photographer who also has a big tripod, take a set of grey cards out :-)

That's interesting, never seen anything like that before. Can you say why the E-PL1/2 and XZ-1 don't have the same problems (for me) as the other 43 bodies? Is it just all 43 bodies post E-1 that are looking for WB at the subject, and the PL1/2 and XZ-1 are looking elsewhere?

Also, does it not bother you having those cards in the middle of all your photos? :rolleyes:

snaarman
14th June 2012, 03:33 PM
Also, does it not bother you having those cards in the middle of all your photos? :rolleyes:

Nah, you get used to them..

DJMC
14th June 2012, 04:08 PM
Nah, you get used to them..

Being serious, I understand you use the cards for WB correction, but I've only ever seen reference to a white card, not grey or black. Can you direct me via a link to a good guide showing how these various cards should be used?

Much appreciated. I'm always keen to learn.

*chr

bilbo
14th June 2012, 04:41 PM
Call me old fashioned, but 30 years ago I was used to using my OM-2n to take a photo with only the options to adjust aperture/speed (& focus) before I pressed the button, and that was that.

So now I still tend to do the same and want to see the final result on my screen without fiddling around in PP. That's why I need a camera that reproduces what I see in the VF.

The E-1 is still vastly complicated compared to the OM-2n, but it does mostly do what I need, as do the XZ-1 and E-PL2.

Colour rendition in OOC JPEGs must therefore be right first time for me.

;)Well if you want results comparable to shooting film, you need to shoot digital film - and that's.... RAW. Your camera in producing the JPEG already makes a number of decisions according to the settings you have made. If you have set White Balance to Auto, then (on the E-3) if there's no white in the picture (a la the white and grey cards above) it will make a guess. You can correct this in the RAW processor. I use Adobe Camera Raw as a pre-processor to Adobe Elements, and it really isn't difficult.

Going back to film, if you shot indoors under tungsten light with a daylight film, then you would get strangely coloured prints back from the chemist. Similarly if you used tungsten balanced film in daylight. That's because when they processed the film, the process they were meant to follow was different depending on the film type. So this issue with white balance is nothing new - it's just that you are now in charge of the processing.

Here are a couple of cornflowers taken on my E-3 (I came here from Susan's recent thread)

1. JPEG with the WB set to daylight (5300K on my E-3.)
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1435/cornflower-from-jpeg.jpg

2. RAW with the white balance right out of kilter (-7 on the Green-Magenta axis) and corrected to daylight in Adobe Camera Raw.
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1435/cornflower-from-raw.jpg

After all that, I can't say which is better :rolleyes:, the second I think, but they ain't blue - at least not on my screen. :)

DJMC
14th June 2012, 04:59 PM
So, if I ever get time to start investigating RAW + PP, what's my best bet for basic software to give me a basic understanding of how to PP before I possibly fall for it and buy a better processing package?

Is any Olympus software likely to give me this basic usage, or am I better off with a free or trial 3rd party offering?

I take it you're saying WB is completely irrelevant if I shoot RAW? That'd be some reward!

;)

bilbo
14th June 2012, 05:25 PM
So, if I ever get time to start investigating RAW + PP, what's my best bet for basic software to give me a basic understanding of how to PP before I possibly fall for it and buy a better processing package?

Is any Olympus software likely to give me this basic usage, or am I better off with a free or trial 3rd party offering?

I take it you're saying WB is completely irrelevant if I shoot RAW? That'd be some reward!

;)I use Photoshop Elements (PSE) ~ 50 from Amazon for version 10. No way would I spend 600+ on the full Adobe CS software! I just don't need it.

With PSE, there's a free downloadable Adobe Camera Raw (you'll see this referred to as ACR) plug-in that is specific to the camera you're using, so I've got the E-3 plug-in. I'm guessing there's one for the E-620... or maybe someone will be along soon to chip in...

And with RAW, you get what the camera saw - pretty much back to your OM-2 Shutter, Aperture, Focus settings. Then it's up to you what you do with the digital "film". You can probably set your camera to record both RAW and JPEG files, so that you've got it covered both ways while you experiment...

hth

OlyPaul
14th June 2012, 05:27 PM
So, here's my thought. The E-1 measures it's White balance in a different manner. It has a little white window that looks at the sky. I think it decides from that what the best WB is based on some preset values (maybe it is even cleverer). Anyway, the E-1 it isn't fooled by the subject matter because it is looking elsewhere...

So if you point an E-1 at a scene and an E-510 then they will probably come to different WB conclusions.

Pete




Nope not it at all, it is a sensor thing with those models.

Putting a white card behind the purple mauve flower takes care of the WB.

I shot raw plus jpeg and put them into LR

Image top left is the jpeg which also had the white eyedropper tool put on the white background which made no difference to the WB (it was correct even though the flower colour was wrong)

Image right was the raw with Adobe standard colour profile and underneath the Huelight profile which shows the correct colour of the flower.

Basicly Olympus got the colour profiling of this sensor wrong for those models as far as purples are concerned and any image taken of that colour will have to be specificly altered for just that colour spectrum to appear correct.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1439/Picture0002.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/47945)

Ulfric M Douglas
14th June 2012, 07:05 PM
Our e-600 shows blue on the LCD but takes purple alright, although bluebells can need tweaking.
Here we have some Rhododendron flowers from a couple of weeks ago, pretty much the colour we remember.
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/506/PinkPurpleRhodo_LowtherJune2012.JPG
Not very purple but enough to make my point : our e-600 can do purple.

OlyPaul
14th June 2012, 07:33 PM
Our e-600 shows blue on the LCD but takes purple alright, although bluebells can need tweaking.
Here we have some Rhododendron flowers from a couple of weeks ago, pretty much the colour we remember.

Not very purple but enough to make my point : our e-600 can do purple.

I disagree Ulfric, I have that same bush in my garden and they are more of a lilac colour than purple and the colour shift is less noticeable.

Ross the fiddler
14th June 2012, 10:48 PM
So, if I ever get time to start investigating RAW + PP, what's my best bet for basic software to give me a basic understanding of how to PP before I possibly fall for it and buy a better processing package?

Is any Olympus software likely to give me this basic usage, or am I better off with a free or trial 3rd party offering?

I take it you're saying WB is completely irrelevant if I shoot RAW? That'd be some reward!

;)

I would suggest, before you try any proprietary software for dealing with your RAW files, to use Olympus Viewer 2 first (which is free). That way you can see a number of adjustments that can be made to RAW files (including WB & the JPEG as well), plus you can apply an Art Filter (if applicable to your model camera) just for the fun of trying them afterwards & it is then saved as a JPEG (or TIFF) file. After that, there are many here that will recommend their preferred software for getting more out of the RAW files.

DJMC
15th June 2012, 08:11 AM
I would suggest, before you try any proprietary software for dealing with your RAW files, to use Olympus Viewer 2 first (which is free). That way you can see a number of adjustments that can be made to RAW files (including WB & the JPEG as well), plus you can apply an Art Filter (if applicable to your model camera) just for the fun of trying them afterwards & it is then saved as a JPEG (or TIFF) file. After that, there are many here that will recommend their preferred software for getting more out of the RAW files.

OK, I already have Viewer 2 on my computer so I'll switch to taking JPEG+RAW and see what results I can achieve.

:)

Ross the fiddler
15th June 2012, 11:58 AM
OK, I already have Viewer 2 on my computer so I'll switch to taking JPEG+RAW and see what results I can achieve.

:)

When you do open the RAW file there are two ways. The RAW file editor icon on the top bar is the one I would not use, but just click on the RAW file thumbnail & use the tabs on the right [Edit](jpeg) & [Raw] which allows using both before saving. Have fun & experiment with all the functions.

Ulfric M Douglas
22nd June 2012, 09:53 AM
Let's get back to important issues. (But forget the e-M5 eh?)

Paul you're absolutely right ;
I disagree Ulfric, ...
Here's one I made earlier. See how the lighter flowers have a purpley colour fine, but the really nice deep purple didn't come out at all.

e-410 14-54MkI SOOC Jpeg
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/PurpleFail_e-410Jpeg_P6220021.jpg

Subsequently altering WB (RAW or Jpeg) really loses the nice greens and amberises everything too much. It'll have to be selective colour tweaks in RAW to fix this.
Off I go then ...

...found it.

Using ACR in Photoshop choose the camera calibration tab, slide BluePrimary somewhat to the right. (This didn't wreck one with some overcast sky in it either, but big blue skies would suffer I'm sure.)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/GardenGeraniums_P6220021RAW-Jpeg_BluePrimaryRight.jpg

Ulfric M Douglas
11th July 2012, 12:21 PM
Just to confirm the E-1 is doing purple Jpegs ... :) (only had it two hours, fun )

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/GeraniumP7119582e.JPG

David M
11th July 2012, 11:35 PM
I'm surprised non of the people who shot film for decades have come up with a possible answer to this.

Ian
14th July 2012, 10:39 PM
How about this one?:

http://dpnow.com/galleries/data/547/P7141277.jpg (http://dpnow.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/26393)

Ian

DJMC
14th July 2012, 10:51 PM
That is most definitely BLUE Ian!

So, the answer to my question is "NO".

:eek:

DJMC
14th July 2012, 10:52 PM
Just to confirm the E-1 is doing purple Jpegs ... :) (only had it two hours, fun )

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/GeraniumP7119582e.JPG

Now THAT is purple!

*chr

OlyPaul
15th July 2012, 07:52 AM
T
I remembered this earlier today when I saw a hanging basket with some very nice blue flowers. Here is the picture:

Does the colour look authentic to you?

Ian

Well if it is supposed to be blue then no and even does not come close to violet blue.:)

Real blues are easier it is the violet/blues that are harder.

The only Olympus camera that does true violet/blues is the E-1.

These quick jpeg images were done in the shade with AWB and a set Shade WB results were the same.

Top images are from the Oy Pen and are similar to all E-system cameras I have owned except for the E-1.

The images on the left are a violet/blue and the ones on the right are a pale purple.

The Oly fails miserably at rendering both accurately.

The Pentax K-r makes a good stab at the left one but no cigar and renders the one on the right spot on.

So I guess the answer is it depends on the camera .

http://dpnow.com/galleries/data/1138/compare1.jpg (http://dpnow.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/26394)

s4ean
15th July 2012, 08:18 AM
That is most definitely BLUE Ian!

So, the answer to my question is "NO".

:eek:

I'm not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but Ian's picture looks completely purple to me. Actually, on my Macbook Pro, if I tilt the screen all the way from one end to the other, it goes through a full spectrum from blue, violet, to purple, then magenta :o So I'm just assuming what I get in the middle is closest to accurate, lol.

DJMC
15th July 2012, 08:24 AM
I'm not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but Ian's picture looks completely purple to me. Actually, on my Macbook Pro, if I tilt the screen all the way from one end to the other, it goes through a full spectrum from blue, violet, to purple, then magenta :o So I'm just assuming what I get in the middle is closest to accurate, lol.

No, no sarcasm.

Ian's flowers are blue. Ulfric's are purple. Both viewed on same screen.

Not sure where Olypaul got Ian's quote from but it's confusing?

:confused:

s4ean
15th July 2012, 08:32 AM
No, no sarcasm.

Ian's flowers are blue. Ulfric's are purple. Both viewed on same screen.

Not sure where Olypaul got Ian's quote from but it's confusing?

:confused:

I see he actually got it from the sister site where Ian posted in this thread: "http://fourthirds-user.com/forum/showthread.php?p=84804#84804"

Although it looks like the commenters their remarked that it didn't come close to blue on their screens... another macbook pro user perhaps? :D I can't see blue in it either, but Ian did say they were blue. Our screens must be off. Oh, but I will add Ulfric's do appear purple on my screen at least, no matter how I tilt the screen.

OlyPaul
15th July 2012, 09:54 AM
Yep copied from the FTU site to save typing it out again but I had meant to cut that quote out.

The thing I find interesting from my test is that before it I was presuming it was down to the Panasonic sensor as the E-1 has a kodak sensor.

But as the E-M5 and the Pentax K-r both have a Sony sensor it cannot be that and must be the in camera software.:)

DJMC
15th July 2012, 10:07 AM
Yep copied from the FTU site to save typing it out again but I had meant to cut that quote out.

The thing I find interesting from my test is that before it I was presuming it was down to the Panasonic sensor as the E-1 has a kodak sensor.

But as the E-M5 and the Pentax K-r both have a Sony sensor it cannot be that and must be the in camera software.:)

What's the sensor in the E-PL1 & E-PL2, as they can do purples as good as the E-1? That's partly the reason I asked to start with, as it seemed to me the OM-D may be an evolution from the PENs and not the 43 bodies, and so worthy of a look when prices fall.

Seems my recently acquired and repaired E-410 will likely have to go if it can't pass my purple test!

:rolleyes:

OlyPaul
15th July 2012, 10:16 AM
What's the sensor in the E-PL1 & E-PL2, as they can do purples as good as the E-1? That's partly the reason I asked to start with, as it seemed to me the OM-D may be an evolution from the PENs and not the 43 bodies, and so worthy of a look when prices fall.

Seems my recently acquired and repaired E-410 will likely have to go if it can't pass my purple test!

:rolleyes:

It is the same Panasonic sensor the same as the E-PL3.

And by the way you have not done a back to back with your E-PL2 and E-1only the E-600, so I'm sceptical of that assumption.;)

Ulfric M Douglas
15th July 2012, 10:51 AM
Ian's flowers are blue. Ulfric's are purple. Both viewed on same screen.

:confused:
On my (cheapo uncalibrated LG Flatron W2242S ) screen Ian's flower is hugely saturated PURPLE with shouty CAPS,
while mine is a subtler nicer purple with a smooth moustache. :)

Although Ian didn't post an explanation WITH his purple flower picture : out of camera Jpeg or not?

What's the sensor in the E-PL1 & E-PL2, as they can do purples as good as the E-1?
Urk. Mine do purples as terribly as our e-600, as was shown in (maybe) the first page of this thread.
Only this old E-1 gives good purples right from the Jpeg.

Previously I had posted what I thought were purple from the 12mpx cameras but they were too light and as the real life colour darkened to truew purple they stopped showing it in out-of-camera Jpegs.
I had to shift colours (best in RAW) to get them right.

DJMC
15th July 2012, 10:55 AM
And by the way you have not done a back to back with your E-PL2 and E-1only the E-600, so I'm sceptical of that assumption.;)

Yes, good point. I'll have a hunt for purple flowers when time allows.

;)

Ross the fiddler
15th July 2012, 11:10 AM
There seems to be a lot of discussion with various DSLR models & various PEN models, but I thought the main point of this thread was to query the colour performance of the E-M5, namely it's purple appearance from the JPEGs. :confused:

OlyPaul
15th July 2012, 11:26 AM
There seems to be a lot of discussion with various DSLR models & various PEN models, but I thought the main point of this thread was to query the colour performance of the E-M5, namely it's purple appearance from the JPEGs. :confused:

True but you need to compare it to something.

Ross go here and tell me if Ian's blue flower taken with the E-M5 looks blue to you?:)

http://www.fourthirds-user.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11240

Ulfric M Douglas
15th July 2012, 12:02 PM
There seems to be a lot of discussion with various DSLR models & various PEN models, but I thought the main point of this thread was to query the colour performance of the E-M5, namely it's purple appearance from the JPEGs. :confused:
Bah. On-topic is overrated. :D

I've just been out in my garden hunting three different purples ; LittleFlowers (turn out to be a lavender) with a nice pinky purple.
Garden geraniums which at the moment are mostly a definite purple with some blueish purple.
Cadbury's Hot Chocolate tub : the 'control' purple.

Of all the Olympus sensors I'm only missing the e-500 & e-M5 (wot thread is about) but if Jdal pops round we can do that too.

Jpeg results ;
Lavenders : best : e-600 (yes, really), E-1, e-pL1-underexposed. Everything else makes them too light but still pinkypurple.
GardenGeraniums : best E-1 & LumixG1. Middling e-410. Worst e-600. Pretty bad : all the others.
Cadbury : best LumixG1. E-1 was a bit too blue. Worst e-600 terribly blue.

Ross the fiddler
15th July 2012, 12:10 PM
True but you need to compare it to something.

Ross go here and tell me if Ian's blue flower taken with the E-M5 looks blue to you?:)

http://www.fourthirds-user.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11240

I'm not sure what colour that flower is supposed to be, but it looks like a very blue purple. What about my photo of a Violet which is #13 post in this thread (http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21013) which was taken with the Picture Mode being Vivid?

Ross the fiddler
15th July 2012, 12:15 PM
Bah. On-topic is overrated. :D
Yeah, I know. ;)

OlyPaul
15th July 2012, 12:16 PM
From what I can see there is no really accurate colours in photography.

The Oly green and blues which are much loved (by me as well) are not accurate.

Canon blue skies and skin tone always seem to have to much magenta tinge for my liking.

Pentax greens leave a lot to be desired. :)

Off course these are all OOC jpegs if you shoot raw then everything is adjustable even individual colours.;)

David M
15th July 2012, 12:36 PM
I take it no one else on here shot plants/flowers for publication in the Kodachrome/Velvia era?

DJMC
15th July 2012, 06:46 PM
Paul, here you go....

Two sets of three photos using the E-410; E-1; E-PL2.....

E-410:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P1016474a.JPG


E-1:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P7156463a.JPG


E-PL2:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P7150047a.JPG


Back to E-410 again:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P1016481a.JPG


E-1:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P7156456a.JPG


E-PL2:

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1460/P7150055a.JPG


You were right! Only the E-1 repeats the purple flower's colour.

I also re-tested my XZ-1 as previously that had matched the E-1 and E-PL1 in a 'purple test' but that too gave a blue colour on this occasion. I'd not previously tested the E-PL2 having assumed it would follow the E-PL1's good purple rendering. I imagine the E-PL1 would have failed today's test too!

:eek:

David M
15th July 2012, 07:32 PM
Given you seem to be getting different results now than previously maybe you should change your testing parameters.