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Loup Garou
2nd June 2012, 07:30 PM
I have a old but good quality Kaiser flash bracket that has a plain metal hotshoe at the top of the grip. I bought it a few years ago to use with a bounce slave flashgun - a Digislave Deluxe 3000 - meant for digital cameras and used it to boost the flash output while using my old Canon G9. The instructions with the Digislave specifically instructed the user to insulate the metal sensor on the gun's own shoe from any metal hotshoe. To achieve this, I stuck a small square of ducktape on the floor of the bracket's hotshoe and it worked without problems.

But now I intend to use that same bracket with the dedicated Olympus FL-600R flashgun, using the little clip-on flash of my new OM-D to trigger it. In doing so, do I need to continue to insulate the flashgun's contacts from the metal hotshoe on the bracket? If so, I need to use a larger piece of tape because the FL-600R has four contacts to just one on the Digislave.

Ross the fiddler
3rd June 2012, 01:41 AM
Yes, you should keep anything from shorting or interfering with any RC Olympus flashes. The RC mode should work well in that set up. If you are doing critical close flash work, it can be helpful to shield the trigger flash from lighting the subject, because a tiny amount of light can impact on the photograph in those situations. If you take a photo of yourself in the mirror with just the trigger flash set to RC mode, you will see it's tail end of light in the photo (earlier DSLR models do anyhow).

Loup Garou
3rd June 2012, 03:52 PM
Thanks. I just discovered that the pointy contacts of the FL-600R rip off the insulating tape and so short-circuiting can still be a problem.

Is something like this - http://www.hama.co.uk/006959/hama-mounting-shoe-with-insulating-plate - solve the priblem?

Loup Garou
9th June 2012, 07:54 AM
Problem sorted to perfection.

I first fitted http://www.amazon.co.uk/Camera-Adapter-Wireless-Trigger-Microphone/dp/B002YURVJC/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339227977&sr=1-12 to the metal hotshoe of my Kaiser flash bracket. It was a secure fit, using the circular nut to tighten it in place.

I then used http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-Mounting-Insulating-Plate-Thread/dp/B00006IVAK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1339228125&sr=1-1 threading it to the Kaavie bit. I needed to use a tiny washer to tighten the Hama bit in the right position but I had plenty of those. The little top plate of the Hama is plastic and so insulated.

The result was very aesthetically pleasing and functional fit. To make sure the ensemble worked as I wanted it to, I put the FL-600R and OM-D into their respective RC modes and tried a few sample pictures around the house - perfect. The flash 'saw' the camera settings though the little in-house flashbit that came with the OM-D. *chr

Ross the fiddler
9th June 2012, 08:16 AM
I've ordered one of these brackets (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flash-Arm-Bracket-Hot-Shoe-Tripod-Mount-Canon-Nikon-Olympus-Sony-DC-DSLR-DV-/320874380002?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessorie s&hash=item4ab59a7ae2) to use with the FL50R at the side in the same way you are suggesting. It should be better than having the larger flash sitting on top of a small camera.

Loup Garou
9th June 2012, 08:45 AM
Some 17 years ago I found a very sturdy German made Kaiser flash bracket for 9 at a car boot sale. It was expensive for a boot sale but though obviously used it was good quality stuff and so I bought it. I still had my old Canon EOS10 film camera and Speedlite flash and used them with the bracket for a few years, with only insulating tape to prevent the flashgun short circuiting. But the Olympus FL-600R's contact pins are a lot sharper than Canon Speedlite's and so I needed this adapter ensemble.

The Kaiser bracket has a good handle to support the flashgun and hold the ensemble steady. This http://www.amazon.com/Kaiser-Folding-Flash-Bracket-Flashes/dp/B000KZCM7Y is a modern version but probably made in China.

Ross the fiddler
9th June 2012, 12:47 PM
Some 17 years ago I found a very sturdy German made Kaiser flash bracket for 9 at a car boot sale. It was expensive for a boot sale but though obviously used it was good quality stuff and so I bought it. I still had my old Canon EOS10 film camera and Speedlite flash and used them with the bracket for a few years, with only insulating tape to prevent the flashgun short circuiting. But the Olympus FL-600R's contact pins are a lot sharper than Canon Speedlite's and so I needed this adapter ensemble.

The Kaiser bracket has a good handle to support the flashgun and hold the ensemble steady. This http://www.amazon.com/Kaiser-Folding-Flash-Bracket-Flashes/dp/B000KZCM7Y is a modern version but probably made in China.

I see what you mean & I think I will just generally put the flash on top of the camera if needed (I've been using it & it isn't too bad) & for lower power, the FL36R will do too. When I eventually get the HLD-6 grip, it will make things easier for stability with heavier lenses & flashes attached to the camera.