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jamsa
18th May 2012, 06:54 PM
I have an Oly 4/3rds 70-300 but now have the EM-5, do I sell the 70-300 and buy the micro 4/3rds Panasonic 100-300 or should I get the mm2/3 adapter and keep the 70-300 ?
please help with some advice... thanks:)

drmarkf
18th May 2012, 08:09 PM
Isn't your choice also to include the m4/3 70-300?

Both m4/3 lenses are smaller and lighter - I've owned both the 4/3 70-300 and the Panny: I never got on with the full-size 70-300, whereas I'm regularly surprised by the IQ of the 100-300, especially at shorter zoom settings and when it's properly supported on mono or tripod.
I'm yet to try it on the E-M5.

jamsa
18th May 2012, 08:15 PM
Thanks...I have the 70-300 4/3rds, the 75-300 is the m4/3rds but pricey atm...so limited to the choice..buy adapter or sell and buy the panasonic.

drmarkf
18th May 2012, 08:40 PM
Ah, yes, I see.
Sorry, but I never tried the 70-300 4/3 on a m4/3 body.

jamsa
18th May 2012, 08:50 PM
If anyone has and can help offer their experience it would help lots

son of sid
18th May 2012, 09:30 PM
I've used the standard 70-300 with an adaptor on the Panasonic GH-1. My experience was that it produced good results (same as with my E-510) but the AF operated at half speed compared to the E-510. (and yes I had applied the firmware updates to use it on the GH-1). This made it a pain to use on photo's of opportunity but was OK for static subjects.

It eventually became so irritating I stopped using it on the GH-1.

Sid

The Technician
19th May 2012, 10:35 AM
I have the 70-300mm with the MMF-3 adaptor but it is a bit chunky :D so I am waiting for the grip to arrive so will be giving it a good test then. I hope to get out this weekend if the weather stays dry :o

Greytop
19th May 2012, 11:57 AM
I too am interested in the Lumix 100-300, I have seen very good shots with it and some not so good. Would be very interested in comparisons between it the m4/3rds 75-300.
Of course at the moment (up until the end of May) the 100-300 can be had with a 50 rebate so it does make it a particularly attractive lower cost long range option.

Ross the fiddler
19th May 2012, 12:26 PM
Thanks...I have the 70-300 4/3rds, the 75-300 is the m4/3rds but pricey atm...so limited to the choice..buy adapter or sell and buy the panasonic.

Look at this thread (http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?p=161866#post161866) (& also here (http://www.fourthirds-user.com/forum/showthread.php?p=82183#post82183)) that Ian did a little earlier. The first photo of the second group of photos (on the next day) is actually taken with the Lumix 100-300 lens. The Lumix is (or was till our dollar value went down due to issues in Greece) as a grey import (as we don't pay duty on goods under $1000), would be worth the risk to add to the kit. One particular person compared it to the Olympus M4/3's one with the Lumix appearing less sharp than the Oly MZD 75-300 lens. I can't remember which forum or thread that occured now.

PeteBoo
19th May 2012, 04:39 PM
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/1427/thumbs/P5100330_Medium_.JPG (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=46837)

Taken with the 70 - 300 on OM-D

Greytop
22nd May 2012, 08:25 PM
Caved in and ordered a Lumix 100-300 yesterday, what with the 50 rebate resulting in the lens working out at only 357.00 it was difficult to pass by.
I've been testing it out and I'm very pleasantly surprised by the IQ with the E-M5 with the bonus that focussing is of course very rapid :)

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/Greytop_photos/Lumix%20100-300%20examples/P5220774.jpg

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab269/Greytop_photos/Lumix%20100-300%20examples/P5220777.jpg

jamsa
23rd May 2012, 03:44 PM
Sharp , great images..what distance were you from the sparrows? ie focal length used?

Olybirder
23rd May 2012, 03:57 PM
Very impressive shots Huw. I especially like the second one. Overall, how do you think the EM-5 and 100-300 compares to the other camera and telephoto lens combinations which you have used - the 50-200 SWD + EC-14 for example?

Ron

Greytop
23rd May 2012, 04:03 PM
Sharp , great images..what distance were you from the sparrows? ie focal length used?

Thanks *chr
These were both at 300mm f/8 which is generally considered around about the optimum aperture at the maximum focal length.
What I'm actually surprised about is that I don't see any significant drop off in sharpness wide open at f/5.6 300mm. Which puts it pretty close to my 50-200 and EC-14 in terms of speed but Oh so much more compact!! :D
Of course is not weather sealed either but still it's a decent little lens.

Sorry to ramble on, distance to the sparrows was approximately 4-5 metres for the first shot and about 7 metres for the second. Both are cropped.

Greytop
23rd May 2012, 04:23 PM
Very impressive shots Huw. I especially like the second one. Overall, how do you think the EM-5 and 100-300 compares to the other camera and telephoto lens combinations which you have used - the 50-200 SWD + EC-14 for example?

Ron

Hi Ron, thanks for the kind comments :)
This was a leap of faith to a degree because I have read both good and average about the 100-300.
I was quite undecided whether to go for this or the 75-300 however the fact that it is potentially faster and quite significantly cheaper (when including the rebate until the end of May) I took a chance and ordered one.

So the positives for me are:-

1) It's small for 100-300 dwarfed by my 50-200 + EC-14 + MMF-3
2) It's so light for a 100-300 lens.
3) It's comparatively well built although mainly plastic construction it has a metal mount.
4) It comes with a hood and good quality lens pouch (Oly take note).
5) I haven't seen overtly nasty colour fringing yet (Photozone review) and I have been using it in high contrast situations.
6) It's a very good performer for the price. It is pretty sharp at all focal lengths and rapid to focus with the E-M5 (significantly faster than native 4/3rds but then that is to be expected).

Negatives
1) It doesn't quite match the 50-200 + EC-14 for sharpness (if you get the focus spot on with the 50-200) but it's really not that far away.
2) It's not weather sealed.
3) The quality feel of Olympus HG / SHG lenses is so nice but then so is the price and weight :)
Honestly not much else I could mark it down for.

Olybirder
23rd May 2012, 04:36 PM
Thanks Huw, that is very useful. I would really like a lighter combination than the E-30, 50-200 SWD and EC-14, which I use most of the time. I totalled up the weights and the E-30 combination works out at 1820g, whereas the E-M5 and 100-300 Panasonic comes to about 890g. That is quite a saving and is definitely worth thinking about.

If the free grip was still on offer, I would probably go for it but I suppose this is now the worst time to buy an E-M5. The initial offer has expired but the discounts and other offers have not started yet.

Ron

Doug H
23rd May 2012, 06:14 PM
Another vote of thanks...had been humming and hawing between this and the Olympus, but, in the end, price won + the fact that it comes with a lens hood.

Doug

jamsa
24th May 2012, 01:19 PM
The MMF 2 arrived today so pics wil be up later..;)

jamsa
24th May 2012, 04:33 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/gambo48/1-P5240176.jpg

This was taken with the newly arrived MMF2 adapter and 70-300 hand held...

jamsa
24th May 2012, 04:35 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/gambo48/4-P5240203.jpg
...and so was this... so I am pleased i didn;t have to buy a long lens for the time being...although the lighter 100-300 or 75-300 micro fourthird options will make sense at some stage.

Ross the fiddler
24th May 2012, 10:55 PM
jamsa, that looks very encouraging with them both looking very nice. That's the way I will have to do it for a while too, but I'm getting the E-M5 to go lighter than the E30 (& grip) & the lighter M4/3's options would be a goal for the future (probably the Panasonic because of price & less risk as a grey import). I will still need a handfull of batteries for any high volume of photos I take though (which I tend to do, with only a handfull of actually nice keepers). I think my priority will be to buy the grip to make handling more secure (& that 2nd battery to extend shooting time).

*chr

shirley
26th May 2012, 08:34 AM
I am interested in this thread as I have purchased (waiting to be delivered as I write!) an EM5. As I have mentioned elsewhere I am going to the Canoe Slalom at the Olympics and would love to take some pics. I saw Ian's fabulous images and wondered if there is any chance of me capturing similar pics with the EM5 and 70-300, which I already have. Clearly the image quality can be very good, as demonstrated by the pics in this thread, but I was wondering if the AF would be fast enough for sport.

I do have the option of hiring 50-200 (to go with E30) or buying a panasonic 100-300 (maybe!!!!).

I have just realised I could hire the 75-300. So many options and I have no idea. Obviously I can try the 70 - 300 as soon as the EM5 arrives but I have no personal experience of the other lenses, so any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Shirley

Olybirder
26th May 2012, 09:28 AM
Obviously I can try the 70 - 300 as soon as the EM5 arrives but I have no personal experience of the other lenses, so any advice would be appreciated.
Don't forget you will need an adapter to fit your 70-300 to the EM5. Do you already have one of those?

Ron

shirley
26th May 2012, 09:39 AM
Yes I do, I have the EPL2 and bought an adpater for that.
Thanks

jamsa
26th May 2012, 10:41 AM
I took some pictures at a paintball event recently using the 70-300. I think as with any of the lenses you mention the best way of freezing the action is to use manual focus or "pre lock" and use the 4.5 or 9 frames per second. These two are examples:
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/gambo48/Battlegrounds%20Aberdeen/329-P4296014.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/gambo48/20-P4296049.jpg
This is the technique I used here and with no problem.

jamsa
26th May 2012, 01:05 PM
...and this one was taken this morning. the 70-300, mmf2, EM5 on a tripod.http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/gambo48/1-P5260210.jpg

David Morison
26th May 2012, 01:19 PM
I have just realised I could hire the 75-300. So many options and I have no idea. Obviously I can try the 70 - 300 as soon as the EM5 arrives but I have no personal experience of the other lenses, so any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance for any info.
Shirley

Having owned two different 70-300s and now own a 75-300mm I would say that the latter lens is a leap ahead of the other and off course the focusing is much, much faster. I realise there is a great difference in the price (although I got mine used from Amazon at a good discount) but it is more compatible IQ wise with the EM-5 and would be a must have IMO.

David