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jdal
30th April 2012, 08:33 PM
Just to start the thread off. We need someone with intimate local knowledge for an idea of locations. Any volunteers??

Ronel100
30th April 2012, 09:16 PM
This map of Seaham shows where the photographs from the orignal thread were taken if that is any help. It shows roads and footpaths and was taken from Open streetmap (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.8281&lon=-1.3315&zoom=13&layers=M)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Seaham_map.jpg

It would depend on other commitments, but if available I'll come along - although as you can tell from the photographs I don't mix with people often !!! My wife calls it anti-social behaviour.

meach
1st May 2012, 06:50 AM
I'm definitely interested in coming along.

catkins
2nd May 2012, 11:33 AM
Sorry - coming into this thread late after two days of intense wedding shot sorting!!

I know the area fairly well having walked there once or twice a year.

There are two main places to park:

one as shown by the P on the map above, near Blast Beach is along a track and is good for walks southwards onto the beach or along the cliff top (there is a choice of circuits including one or two steep short climbs off the beach up to the top of the cliffs)
the other in the town centre to the right of where it says North Road (just north of the harbour) - this is good for access down to the harbour area


Walks from the first:
One option is to explore the beaches and cliffs that contain so many photo opportunites and interesting historical background.
It starts with a steep drop down a track from near the parking to the raised 'beach' (sulphurous remains of coal waste tipped onto the old beach, now used to protect the magnesium limestone cliffs from erosion) which is accessible whatever the tide, and the opportunity to explore the industrial debris (rusty ironwork, glass, timber, stone, brick, etc., etc.).
For anyone not wishing to head down the steep section of track, there is the option to stay on the paths along the top of the low cliffs, and if necessary use the easier route donw to the beach halfway along the beach.

A short climb half way along the beach (or the really hardy can scramble up the steep grass cliff at the far end) leads to a walk along the top of the cliff southwards eventually meeting the Hartlepool to Sunderland railway line, near Hawthorn Dene.

At this point there is the option of crossing the line onto a wildflower meadow area before heading back along the railway to the car park.

Alternatively, a path leads down a steep series of steps down onto Hawthorn beach (a mix of a slightly more natural looking industrial waste and rocky foreshore), along the beach with the possibility of crossing a stream (bring suitable walking boots as it is often a case of dashing through shallow water!), and if the tide is out the chance to explore a bit more beach and some rock stacks, before heading back to the stream and up a path to its side.
This leads up the dene, under the railway viaduct and an option to climb up the valleyside to some old WWI training trenches hidden in the long grass to the south east of the viaduct.
Otherwise, the walk continues up the dene a little way, past some previously inhabited caves before crossing the stream (bridge) and up to the wild flower meadows mentioned previously.
Just past the meadows is a large disused but closed off limestone quarry with old heaps covered in orchids in the late spring/summer.

The harbour too has some interesting photo opportunities especially if the waves are being blown by a good wind! The road down to the north pier does seem to get shut off occasionally, although the last few times public access seems to be fine. The pier itself is closed off.

I've made a Google Earth folder with the key parking & walking options, together with warnings for access issues, points of interest, etc. - as the E-Group site only allows zip files rather than the original Google Earth file, I've attached the zip file below - hopefully if you can unzip it, then you should be able to access the Google Earth kmz file which will then show the Seaham walks! Any problems, then let me know.
I'll also set up a web album with some photos, if time allows in the next few days.

Regards
Chris

jdal
2nd May 2012, 12:22 PM
Catkins:

Brilliant! Thanks.

We now need a date. I'm pretty much out of action at weekends until 16th June. I notice that on Sun 24th June there is a low tide at 13:24, which sounds ideal. (from this (http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/england/seaham)site)

meach
2nd May 2012, 01:24 PM
Catkins:

Brilliant! Thanks.

We now need a date. I'm pretty much out of action at weekends until 16th June. I notice that on Sun 24th June there is a low tide at 13:24, which sounds ideal. (from this (http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/england/seaham)site)

Sounds good to me - plenty of notice for everybody to get sorted.

catkins
2nd May 2012, 02:14 PM
Catkins:

I notice that on Sun 24th June there is a low tide at 13:24, which sounds ideal. (from this (http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/england/seaham)site)

Sounds good for me too - a low tide would certainly add to the photo opportunities and good exploring potential!

Regards
Chris

Ulfric M Douglas
2nd May 2012, 04:02 PM
We could call it the "Low Tide Seaham Excursion", and watch as we all get cut off by the roiling waves in some craggy alcove with a WWII mine bobbing about.

Oh, count me/us in too.

catkins
2nd May 2012, 09:56 PM
We could call it the "Low Tide Seaham Excursion", and watch as we all get cut off by the roiling waves in some craggy alcove with a WWII mine bobbing about.

Oh, count me/us in too.

And don't forget the Procter & Gamble promotion of free Ariel stain remover gel capsules ('Brighter yellows made ultra white'), together with the Great North Air Ambulance prize for the first photographer to fall into the yellow sulphurous pond on Blast Beach - a free helicopter ride all the way to Staines!

Regards
Chris

catkins
8th May 2012, 10:00 AM
Catkins:

Brilliant! Thanks.

We now need a date. I'm pretty much out of action at weekends until 16th June. I notice that on Sun 24th June there is a low tide at 13:24, which sounds ideal. (from this (http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/england/seaham)site)

Just to add clarity to this as my brain needs organising and we don't seem to have made this a definite event -

Are we all happy to agree that the following:


That we will have an E-Group meet at Seaham
To make the best of the low tide, we will meet at 11am, Sun 24th June 2012 at Noses Point car park on the site of the old Dawdon colliery(see Google Earth folder with key parking and walking options at http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2245&d=1335958041) - there is a drystone wall / sculpture / seating area just to the east side of the car park that makes for a good rendevous point.
There are perhaps two main options for anyone attending this event -
- Upper level, mainly on the flat, purpose made footpaths or along grass tracks on top edge of the cliffs, exploring the views of the coast and wildlife of the magnesium limestone habitat - option to use easier access down onto Blast beach or to carry on to Hawthorn Dene area
- Lower & upper level, steep descents down to the beachs, explore low tide Blast beach and rocky foreshore, then continue on to Hawthorn Dene and beach (steep, stepped descent), back along through the wildlife meadows/cliff tops, etc. - option to see WWI training trenches - more walking involved.
If time allows, late afternoon could be a good time to explore Seaham harbour by relocating to the North Road car park in Seaham. The tide will be higher and if the day is windy then the waves can be good!


Bring picnic, walking boots, walking stick if taking steep route down to Blast Beach (it always scares me, so you can use the longer alternative route down!), camera (!), waterproofs (well, that might just scare off all this rain we're having), etc., etc.
As with any car park anywhere in the country be sensible with not leaving valuables in your car! This car park is well used at weekends and should have plenty of space.

We could perhaps arrange pick-ups for anyone needing a lift to Seaham from Newcastle or Tyne Valley and perhaps other areas of the north, so please, if you have space in a car or if you need a lift, let us know.
You can also get to Seaham by train http://www.northernrail.org/journey/planner/NCL/SEA and by bus http://www.simplygo.com/our-services/drifter/ (Route 60, bus stop at Byron Place which is the new shopping centre near the harbour).

Please check this thread for any changes to the above before the day - this is just the first draft until others agree or disagree!

For those interested, there is a good video showing what this area used to look like when it was a desolate dumping ground for colliery waste, and what it looks like now - http://www.durhamheritagecoast.org/dhc/usp.nsf/pws/Durham+Heritage+Coast+-+Durham+Heritage+Coast+-+Videos+-+Turning+The+Tide
Leaflets can also be downloaded at http://www.durhamheritagecoast.org/dhc/doclibrary.nsf/vwebbycoll?OpenView&Start=1&Count=30&expand=2#2

I'm looking forward to seeing a good turnout from the northern contingent for what is a spectacular location if the weather holds fair - it has so many different aspects to photograph. I was further up the coast at Cresswell on Saturday photographing sea anglers, and the coast was beautiful and the waves spectacularly lit by perfect sunlight.

Regards
Chris

jdal
8th May 2012, 10:32 AM
It's in SWMBO's diary now. Sounds excellent. I'll have space for 2 from Morpeth area.

catkins
8th May 2012, 10:51 AM
It's in SWMBO's diary now.

!! I had to look it up :o

Regards
Chris

jdal
8th May 2012, 11:26 AM
....

- Lower & upper level, steep descents down to the beachs, explore low tide Blast beach and rocky foreshore, then continue on to Hawthorn Dene and beach (steep, stepped descent), back along through the wildlife meadows/cliff tops, etc. - option to see WWI training trenches - more walking involved.
...., walking stick if taking steep route down to Blast Beach (it always scares me, so you can use the longer alternative route down!),...
Shall I bring ropes, harnesses, slings, pegs etc? :)

If wor lass is coming along, and she may, I'll sadly be taking the long way round :mad:

meach
8th May 2012, 11:36 AM
I'll be coming up from Norton and can offer a lift to a couple of people.

Ulfric M Douglas
8th May 2012, 12:23 PM
We have space for two coming along the A69 from Haltwhistle, Hexham, Corbridge etc etc.
Catkins/Chemop get first dibs, speaking of ... PM time for Chemop.

catkins
8th May 2012, 01:30 PM
[/LIST]Shall I bring ropes, harnesses, slings, pegs etc? :)

If wor lass is coming along, and she may, I'll sadly be taking the long way round :mad:

You might have some fun on the cliffs but I'm perhaps overegging the route down - http://www.flickr.com/photos/thegrizz/5548419130/ shows the track down, as well as the sea arches, the mix of debris in the rocky beach, etc. If dry, I reckon most of us will enjoy the adventurous route!

As a child I had 'verdigris' halfway up a mountain Torridon, for some strange reason got laughed at (*zzz), and it's taken me years to get used to any steep slopes. And even now, while friends happily slide down ice sheets, I tend to delicately tread around the edges in fear of the big embarrasing slide and resulting earthquake!! All I'm saying is . . . when you see me going down it get your cameras ready!
I have also seen many years ago Land-Rovers go down the track but rather them than me - I think I'd rather walk it.

Good to see the transport offers and hopefully we'll get a few more to help out. Thanks Ulfric, that would be appreciated - if however you change your mind, I can offer you a lift!

Regards
Chris

Chemop
8th May 2012, 03:57 PM
I'm very interested in joining you but will be in China from 7-18 June and away in the Lakes for the w/e 22-24 June. Other than that I'm flexible!! Is there any chance you can work around that. If so I'd be grateful for a lift. Thanks Ulfric for the heads up. Seaham has been on my list for a visit for some time - with an Oly camera of course. And if anyone can bring along an EM5 I'd love to try before I buy one. Cheers Chemop

Ken Lister
8th May 2012, 04:32 PM
Count me in for the 24th. Lift available for three from Blaydon, Gateshead, Washington.

Ken

AdamThirtle
8th May 2012, 11:11 PM
I'll check my diary!

catkins
17th May 2012, 02:23 PM
I've made a Google Earth folder with the key parking & walking options, together with warnings for access issues, points of interest, etc. - as the E-Group site only allows zip files rather than the original Google Earth file, I've attached the zip file below - hopefully if you can unzip it, then you should be able to access the Google Earth kmz file which will then show the Seaham walks! Any problems, then let me know.
I'll also set up a web album with some photos, if time allows in the next few days.

Regards
Chris

Just to keep the reminders in the public eye and to give anyone interested in coming along an idea of what can be seen and photographed, I have made public an album of photographs taken along the coast near Seaham.

https://picasaweb.google.com/103084505107039555636/CoastalSceneryAndSeaWashedIronworkAtSeahamCoDurham ?authuser=0&feat=directlink
(If any problems with the link or with viewing in Picasa Web Albums / Google+ please let me know asap)

It shows some of the wide variety of coastal scenery, views, lunar landscapes, pollution, industrial waste, rusty ironwork, wildlife flora and fauna, etc., etc. that hopefully you'll have a chance to find and photograph on 11am, Sun 24th June 2012 at Noses Point car park - see previous posts for further details of what's planned.

Encourage a few friends to come along and although an E-Group meet, anyone interested in the location or its photographic opportunities will be welcome. It's a brilliant location whether you want to walk far or keep close to the meet point, it's got lots of photographic variety, it's as easy or as hard to explore as you want, and I think it is one of the more unisex locations for its amazing variety of scenery and wildlife . . . and for those interested, yes there is a shopping centre nearby (Dalton Park Outlet Village), there is a cafe in town that may be open if you want to sit indoors and sip tea & eat crumpet, and if you want to sunbathe you wont find anywhere in the country hotter than Blast Beach (I presume sulphurous ground can burn?!!) - and we are due a heat wave in June!

Keep an eye out for any updates,

Regards
Chris

catkins
13th June 2012, 06:18 PM
Just to keep the reminders in the public eye and to give anyone interested in coming along an idea of what can be seen and photographed, I have made public an album of photographs taken along the coast near Seaham.

https://picasaweb.google.com/103084505107039555636/CoastalSceneryAndSeaWashedIronworkAtSeahamCoDurham ?authuser=0&feat=directlink
(If any problems with the link or with viewing in Picasa Web Albums / Google+ please let me know asap)

It shows some of the wide variety of coastal scenery, views, lunar landscapes, pollution, industrial waste, rusty ironwork, wildlife flora and fauna, etc., etc. that hopefully you'll have a chance to find and photograph on 11am, Sun 24th June 2012 at Noses Point car park - see previous posts for further details of what's planned.

I look forward to seeing a few Oly users and one or two others on the day, and let's hope that all the rain has run out by then!

Regards
Chris

Ken Lister
13th June 2012, 07:28 PM
Just to keep the reminders in the public eye and to give anyone interested in coming along an idea of what can be seen and photographed, I have made public an album of photographs taken along the coast near Seaham.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1030845...eat=directlink
(If any problems with the link or with viewing in Picasa Web Albums / Google+ please let me know asap)

It shows some of the wide variety of coastal scenery, views, lunar landscapes, pollution, industrial waste, rusty ironwork, wildlife flora and fauna, etc., etc. that hopefully you'll have a chance to find and photograph on 11am, Sun 24th June 2012 at Noses Point car park - see previous posts for further details of what's planned.

I look forward to seeing a few Oly users and one or two others on the day, and let's hope that all the rain has run out by then!

Regards
Chris

Chris
This link does not work for me but the link on your previous post works fine.
Look forward to seeing you on the 24th.

regards

Ken

catkins
13th June 2012, 07:45 PM
Thanks Ken for that - I have now amended the link and checked that it works!
Look forward to seeing you and others on the day.

Regards
Chris

Kiwi Paul
14th June 2012, 10:09 AM
I may make it too, I have a mate who has just moved to Newcastle last week so hopefully can stay with him Sat night and come to Seaham on Sunday, look forward to it.

Paul

Kiwi Paul
18th June 2012, 08:08 AM
Is this meet still on come rain, hail or shine?

Hopefully shine but just in case lol.

Paul

meach
18th June 2012, 09:04 AM
I was going to ask that myself - I'm still planning to go. Anybody else?

catkins
18th June 2012, 09:06 AM
Is this meet still on come rain, hail or shine?

Hopefully shine but just in case lol.

Paul

Well, I am quite happy to still turn up and do a wet walk if necessary!!
So hopefully a few others will come along prepared for a wet 'guided walk' at the very least but with all of us carrying cameras just in case the sun dares to show its ugly head :D

Forecast at present is warning of a return to rain by the weekend, but this can be very localised and the forecast this far ahead is subject to change.

So hopefully we'll still see a few of you willing to explore, if nothing else, a wonderful bit of coastline.

Regards
Chris

Kiwi Paul
18th June 2012, 09:18 AM
I'm planning on coming too, I need to confirm I can get the week off work but will know today, even found a dog friendly hotel on the waterfront just up the road from the meeting point.

Paul

catkins
18th June 2012, 10:49 AM
Good to hear that you'll be coming, Paul and Meach.
If anyone wants my mobile or wants to give me theirs, can you PM me the details etc. just in case we need any last minute panics!!

Regards
Chris

Ulfric M Douglas
18th June 2012, 11:16 AM
We'll be there, whatever the weather : it's only an hour and a bit away and we also have a relative to visit ...

Ken Lister
18th June 2012, 11:57 AM
I'll be there as well. It will be nice to have a day away from the wife!

Ken

Kiwi Paul
18th June 2012, 12:42 PM
I'll be there as well. It will be nice to have a day away from the wife!

Ken

lol, I hope she doesn't read this forum!!!

Paul

Ken Lister
18th June 2012, 04:35 PM
Don't worry - she feels the same way about me!

She likes me to go out on the motorbike or off somewhere with my camera as she says it gives her a day off as well.

We do love each other really!


Ken

jdal
21st June 2012, 08:16 PM
I'm up for the trip unless it's absolutely lashing it down. A bit rainy is ok - good for industrial grimess locations.

It takes about 50 mins from Morpeth, can anyone local post weather conditions at about 09:00?

Kiwi Paul
21st June 2012, 08:22 PM
I'm turning up anyway, 6 hours from Aberdeen, let it rain me, Roz and the G3 can handle it!!! :D
Anyway your EM5 and 12-50 are weather proof, just bring a raincoat lol ;)

Paul

jdal
21st June 2012, 08:24 PM
Oh ok then, see you there. I've bought some wellies.

Kiwi Paul
21st June 2012, 08:26 PM
I'm bringing a wetsuit lol, after all it is the British summer!!

Paul

Ken Lister
22nd June 2012, 12:29 PM
You can't go far wrong with the accuracy of the BBC weather forecast. Today's forecast for my area is overcast with rain and lo and behold -the sun is out.... oh!

Ken

Wally
22nd June 2012, 01:24 PM
The Seaham forecast for Saturday is cloudy all day with sunny intervals between 12:00 to 15:00. Sunday is much the same with sunny intervals between 13:00 to 19:00.

So you can leave the wellies and rubber raincoats at home... according to the BBC friendly local forecasting folks.

Ulfric M Douglas
22nd June 2012, 02:08 PM
Bumping Chris' info so this page has it too.
To make the best of the low tide, we will meet at 11am, Sun 24th June 2012 at Noses Point car park on the site of the old Dawdon colliery
Here's a tiny map (about time eh?)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Map_SeahamMeet_June2012.jpg

catkins
22nd June 2012, 10:50 PM
For those keen to do a last minute check on the weather for this beautiful bit of coast, the nearest webcam is up at Sunderland's Roker Beach - it seems to be live at present (night time shot much better as it doesn't show them Maccum lasses - lor rein, howling gail, and poor old sore nado!) http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3382

I will be go equipped for the worst, ready for the worst, but hoping for the best. All I need now is the waterproof housing for an E-30!

I look forward to seeing you all at Noses Point - be there or be dry! And if you're dry, just remember, you're missing a wonderful bit of coastline, a lunar landscape, yellow sulphur ponds, cliffs, rusty ironwork, World War I & II remains, sea tumbled glass or stone, wonderful wild flora and fauna, railway viaducts and, of course, the company of a few mad dogs and Englishfolk.

Regards
Chris

gregles
22nd June 2012, 10:55 PM
Would have loved to get across for this but unfortunately and at the same time it is wonderful*yes to have my sister and her family over from Canada:)

Hope you guys have a great day and organise another soon:cool:

Greg

catkins
23rd June 2012, 09:02 PM
Bumping Chris' info so this page has it too.

Here's a tiny map (about time eh?)

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Map_SeahamMeet_June2012.jpg

Thanks for posting the map Ulfric.
I will be making a pickup in Newcastle and may get to Noses Point a little early, but hope that the weather shines brightly on all who make an appearance!!

Regards
Chris

jdal
24th June 2012, 06:39 PM
A cracking trip out, and a fantastic location. We even avoided the rain for the action on the beach :) No photies yet, there's a footy match on I believe ;)

Wally
24th June 2012, 09:46 PM
My thanks to those in the forum who turned out and made for a great day out. The hound and I had a fab time. Mollie crashed out as soon as we got home. Looking forward to seeing the end results.

catkins
24th June 2012, 11:08 PM
I hate to say this, but some of my photos have got really annoying shadows on them. Maybe I better do a reshoot when it's a bit cloudier! That said, my journey back saw some very heavy downpours that could have ruined our day if we'd been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Good to see you all today, and pleased to meet a few new faces too, especially Woofmix / Paul all the way down from Aberdeen on his way to Yorkshire Dales and Lake District.
I was pleased to get to the rusty metal bit of the beach while the tide was out, as the colours in the sun really glowed. And I just wish I'd had a big rucsac to carry back those large scultural granite blocks too - rock art rocs!
Looking forward to seeing some of the photos in due course.

Regards
Chris