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Haisbro
4th June 2008, 08:29 AM
My web site is a bit shoddy and i wonder if any of you have any ideas/ software i could use to showcase my work better. I do sell via Alamy but i would like to promote my own work via a better designed web site.

David

Chillimonster
4th June 2008, 08:38 AM
I know John (theMusicMan) uses Zenfolio and likes the flexability of it, so may be worth looking into.


Chris

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 08:40 AM
*chr

David

DTD
4th June 2008, 08:45 AM
Have you got a link to your site?

Generally I'd say keep it simple, have a neutral background, consistent navigation, make sure it loads quickly, avoid Flash and long intros, talk about the pictures not your cameras, organise the pictures by theme.

Really need to sort my own web site out, which was done in FreeWay (mac only) I'll put my head on the block and give the address:

www.dunni.co.uk

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 09:00 AM
I take a great pride in my images, my home page on the other hand is embarrassing and detracts from my work. Yes i am that ashamed of it so sorry no link. But i really do appreciate feedback/comments on the way to go! I did buy Dreamweaver a few years ago but as i only started using computers at the same time it was a lot of grief and swearing.

Professional looking site and some great images. . Something to aim for. Thanks for the advice

David

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 09:24 AM
I just went onto the Zenfolio site and picked on a photographer at random and saw that he had images on Kuala Lumpur. A google search did not find him in the first ten pages though if i put in Kuala Lumpur McCormack it did. The point being if you cant be found by a random search then there is a huge obstacle to selling your work. I sent an e-mail to Zenfolio seeing if you can add keywords to the page header to make it easier for search engines to find.

David

gno
4th June 2008, 09:59 AM
Not having seen your site, its difficult to judge (post a link) but as you already have the de facto software Dreamweaver I would suggest that you use it. It does take some getting used to, but once you get the hang of it some of the latest ad ons using AJAX Spry are fantastic for displaying your photographs.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/demos/gallery/

Plus there are lots of tutorials on the Adobe site to get you started.
If you want to use your site to sell your pictures, you need to look hard into "Web Optimization for Google".
Getting your pages high in Google Rankings is not easy and takes considerable work. Large Web companies spend many thousands to get good page rankings.


Regards

Gavin

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the advice. My ranking is 2 on page one if you are looking for pictures in my area using google. I know how to put keywords in the code and on view but the problem is the shopwindow! I guess i am looking for a cheap quick fix but it would seem that that way also has a trade off as well. Thanks for the advice and the links perhaps i'll try and reprogram my brain and have another bash.

David

gno
4th June 2008, 11:14 AM
You should be looking to improve your page ranking in Google to better than 2
Have a look here.

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2168021

here
http://www.seochat.com/

and possibly here, these tools are useful you will need to have an account but its free.

http://www.seochat.com/

Regards

Gavin

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the links, just to clarify my ranking is second on page 1 a situation i am happy with. Just want to make best use of it.

David.

gno
4th June 2008, 01:41 PM
Number 2 in a returned list from a search engine is different to "Page Ranking" and is relative to what you use as a search query ie key words, as you said in a earlier post you were using Key words in the "header" that is not sufficient for Google, the web bot from Google crawls all the entire pages so you must also have your key words in the text as well. This should help to increase your "page ranking". It is also important not to overdo key words limit them to about 30 they should also be on every page.
You should also have in the header a <META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT= "In which you put a brief description of the page again about 20 words">
If you are really interested in selling your pictures this way, I suggest that you.
Look at the key words and META NAMES that are used on other sites that you think are marketing their products well.
Use Google as your Search Engine.
Use a search string/query that you think people would use to look for a site selling your particular style of photography.
Look at what Google returns as search results and examine the "SourceCode" (right click the page and "View Source" ) for META Tags and Descriptions and mimic where possible.
Key Words and META tags are very important in getting a good position on a returned query.

Regards

Gavin

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I do have the key words repeated in header and in text but keep them to min. Useful advice is appreciated and on a lighter note i just had my first sale using the E3! Not a Bobby Dazzler but they all help , to camera left and out of view is Happisburgh lighthouse.


http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/cliff-erosion.jpg (http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/5948)

David

shenstone
4th June 2008, 07:08 PM
My web site is a bit shoddy and i wonder if any of you have any ideas/ software i could use to showcase my work better. I do sell via Alamy but i would like to promote my own work via a better designed web site.

David

I really like simpleviewer - take a look at my shenstone site and the galleries therein.

It can be configures for almost any look & feel and is easy to manage & allows decent (but not foolproof) security of your images in that you can switch off RHMouse and save [Yes I know I can get around that, but most viewers don't know how]. Quite a few of the image management systems have some form of export, but I can't comment on those because I just hand code it's faster for me

Regards
Andy

Barr1e
4th June 2008, 07:29 PM
Have you got a link to your site?

Generally I'd say keep it simple, have a neutral background, consistent navigation, make sure it loads quickly, avoid Flash and long intros, talk about the pictures not your cameras, organise the pictures by theme.

Really need to sort my own web site out, which was done in FreeWay (mac only) I'll put my head on the block and give the address:

www.dunni.co.uk


Hi David -

I know I am off topic but wanted to say another three minutes well spent.
http://www.dunni.co.uk/duppies.html

Regards. Barr1e

Haisbro
4th June 2008, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the info and the links, great logo on your site.

David

shenstone
4th June 2008, 07:48 PM
You should be looking to improve your page ranking in Google to better than 2
Have a look here.

http://searchenginewatch.com/showPage.html?page=2168021

here
http://www.seochat.com/

and possibly here, these tools are useful you will need to have an account but its free.

http://www.seochat.com/

Regards

Gavin

Sorry Gavin, but Google doesn't make much use of keywording these days as they had too much use being made of it by porn vendors (loads of unrelated words in the metadata). That article is quite old - Google's current advice is at http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769

Regards
Andy

gno
4th June 2008, 08:58 PM
Its news to me that Google have dropped using keywords in their ranking algorithms. I don't see where they say that in that article either.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769
I wasn't suggesting that he used "Keyword Stuffing" as I said limit the number of keywords.

Regards

Gavin

Steve Lane
6th June 2008, 02:37 PM
Hello David

I am a bit late to this thread, but I have recently created a new website using Joomla. Not the easiest thing to get your head around at first, but once figured out, adding pages and images is a doddle. Take a look via the link below and see if it is to your liking.

Regards, Steve.

shirley
6th June 2008, 04:32 PM
Hello David

I am a bit late to this thread, but I have recently created a new website using Joomla. Not the easiest thing to get your head around at first, but once figured out, adding pages and images is a doddle. Take a look via the link below and see if it is to your liking.

Regards, Steve.

I too am a little late to this thread but I have been so impressed by the company I have been using to produce my website I just had to post. I use www.photium.com, not only are the websites very easy to set up and maintain but the customer service is amazing. If you have any difficulties they respond almost immediately to emails. Also I wanted a particular layout with 5 images in a row to display my LRPS panel and they resized the whole site and created a custom page to give me just what I wanted, all at no extra charge, done for me and completed within 30mins of me making the initial enquiry, now thats what I call service *chr.
You dont need to resize your images, the upload program will do that for you and you can set up automatic borders.
As with any template based webiste package there are limitations but, based on my own experience, they will work with you to give you what you want/need. Although I havent used the facility yet it is also set up so you can sell from the site.

You can try the program free for 1 month.
Have a look and see what you think.
Shirley

shenstone
7th June 2008, 09:31 AM
Hello David

I am a bit late to this thread, but I have recently created a new website using Joomla. Not the easiest thing to get your head around at first, but once figured out, adding pages and images is a doddle. Take a look via the link below and see if it is to your liking.

Regards, Steve.

Steve - I tried the link I get ...

Index of /
cgi-bin/
Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8b mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 Server at www.visionage.co.uk Port 80

Regards
Andy

Steve Lane
9th June 2008, 10:34 AM
Dohhh!...sorry, I have just found out that the place where the site was hosted is having some problems. I am in the process of moving it as I type this message. Hopefully, I should have it up and running again in the next day or so.

Cheers, Steve.

Haisbro
9th June 2008, 11:44 AM
Thanks to all who have given advice, shared links and shown web sites to inspire. I have decided to have another crack at Dreamweaver MX and presently on Chapter 3 Working with graphics!

David:eek:

Steve Lane
9th June 2008, 01:17 PM
Hello David, The gallery is up and running again now, via a different host. I still have to add some more images to put it back to how it was. However, what is up there should give you an idea.

Cheers, Steve.

sapper
9th June 2008, 06:38 PM
Just made a site using Photium as used by Shirley.
http://cuxton.photium.com/gallery.html
Must say that I am impressed with the ease of it. I have put up what you see in between moving one room of books to another (don't ask).
Dave.