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Jerry P
17th December 2011, 07:14 PM
i'm in need of a new camera to replace my samsung s600 ,now i know nothing about photography or cameras ,but the e-pl1 has been recommended to me by janet (forum user),i want to mainly photograph wildlife and action shots ,as i live close to the natioal watersports centre in Nottingham ,Jessops currently have a deal on the e-pl1 twin lens kit,its available for 349.95 ,questions are

1,is this a good deal

2,is this the right camera for me

3,should i buy it now or wait until the sales

4,will the lens in the package suit my needs (wildlife / action

Thanks

Jerry

Zuiko
17th December 2011, 11:10 PM
i'm in need of a new camera to replace my samsung s600 ,now i know nothing about photography or cameras ,but the e-pl1 has been recommended to me by janet (forum user),i want to mainly photograph wildlife and action shots ,as i live close to the natioal watersports centre in Nottingham ,Jessops currently have a deal on the e-pl1 twin lens kit,its available for 349.95 ,questions are

1,is this a good deal

2,is this the right camera for me

3,should i buy it now or wait until the sales

4,will the lens in the package suit my needs (wildlife / action

Thanks

Jerry

Hi Jerry and welcome.

The E-PL1 is a great camera (have one myself) and as a twin lens kit at that price it is exceptional value. It offers high image quality with low weight and bulk and is ideal for most photographic situations - except wildlife and action!

That's not to say it can't do wildlife and action, it can, and the 40-150mm lens is a good starting point. However, I feel that for these two particular types of photography a DSLR is better, mainly due to having an optical viewfinder and faster focusing. Also, a DSLR is probably more physically compatible if eventually you want to go for an even longer lens. On the other hand, an entry level DSLR with lenses of the same focal range as the kit you are looking at will probably cost considerably more and the E-PL1 will almost certainly do better than a compact or bridge camera.

So, if you have more money to spend and are serious about wildlife/action you can do better than the E-PL1 by buying a DSLR. Bear in mind you will be less likely to carry it everywhere with you, though, as it will be bigger and heavier than the E-PL1. However, for a general purpose camera with high quality at a very affordable price the E-PL1 twin kit is hard to beat.

Jerry P
18th December 2011, 12:04 AM
many thanks for your comments John, i really don't think i'm ready for a DSLR ,there far to complicated for me ,i just want a decent point n shoot camera that will take decent photo's with the option of being able to change lens, and a viewfinder would be a nice feature though

Jerry

Smiffy
18th December 2011, 05:54 AM
I just want a decent point n shoot camera that will take decent photo's with the option of being able to change lens, and a viewfinder would be a nice feature though

Jerry

I've just got the same camera on the same deal Jerry. Really is a good price that Jessops are offering and I couldn't resist to be honest. I was just about to buy when the wife offered to get it for me for Christmas, which was terrific. Only problem is, I don't get to play with it for another 8 days! My reasons for wanting an E-PL1 are exactly as you have stated above. I dabbled with a DSLR a few years ago (Sony A200) and as thrilled as I was with the results it gave, I soon got fed up lugging everything around with me.
I've been reading up (a lot!) about the camera and it's shortcomings, but I think it's benefits far outweigh them.
My first additional purchase for it will be the VF-2 viewfinder. Although my current compact doesn't have one and I haven't really missed it to be honest, I can see the benefits that you would get on the E-PL1.
No doubt I will buy a couple of additional lenses for it over the coming months/years but for now I will make do with the two supplied lenses. They may not be the absolute best in terms of performance, especially the 14-42mm, but they will cover my immediate needs until I get properly acclimatised with the camera itself.
At 249.00 for the camera alone, it's a bargain, not a lot more than you'd pay for a good compact.
At 349.00 for the twin lens kit, it's a steal and for me at least it was a "no brainer".
*chr

Phill D
18th December 2011, 07:57 AM
Just in case you need any more moral support I agree, that twin lens deal is a great bargain. I'm even tempted myself and I've got 2 dslrs.

Smiffy
18th December 2011, 10:03 AM
Oh the other "accessory" I have ordered is the "Olympus PEN E-PL1 for Dummies" book available from Amazon. (Can't post a link 'cos I haven't made enough forum posts!).

Considered essential reading as I understand the menu system can be a bit of a 'mare!
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Zuiko
18th December 2011, 10:09 AM
many thanks for your comments John, i really don't think i'm ready for a DSLR ,there far to complicated for me ,i just want a decent point n shoot camera that will take decent photo's with the option of being able to change lens, and a viewfinder would be a nice feature though

Jerry

In that case I recommend the E-PL1 twin kit without reservation.

Although it is not the optimum kit for wildlife or action there is still a lot you can do. For example, you may find it difficult to capture birds in flight but should have no problem with seals basking at Blakeney Point.

A fox running across a meadow might be too much of a challenge (it would also be a challenge with a top of the range DSLR) but a Meerkat "on sentry Duty" at the zoo would be a snip.

Fast moving action at a football match might be beyond the focussing abilities of the camera but set pieces are much easier - it's down to your timing whether or not you capture the ball going in the net from a penalty.

Motor racing (or any track event) should be more feasible than you think with this camera, just select a point on the track where you wish to capture the action, focus on it, then switch to manual focus (so the focus point you have selected doesn't change). Capturing the action is then down to your own timing, including allowing for the shutter lag, which comes with practice. In fairness, you'd probably need the same technique with a entry to mid range DSLR anyway.

So grab it while you can and get snapping! *chr

PS When funds allow you can buy an excellent accessory viewfinder for the E-PL1.

Jerry P
18th December 2011, 12:57 PM
thanks for your advise guys ,i'm pretty sure the e-pl1 is the way forward for me at the moment, and judging by whats been said ,i wont go far wrong ? (hopefully)

Jerry

Janet
20th December 2011, 08:46 PM
Wooo hooo! Jerry's bought the e-PL1 twin lens kit today.

It's a bit of a learning curve for him as it's a huge step up from a compact camera but I'm sure with your/our help, he'll get there in the end.

I've had my Oly for a couple of years now, but I well remember how difficult it was to get to grips with it at the start.

So, please welcome another Oly convert and offer him all the help you can!

Janet

Jerry P
20th December 2011, 08:49 PM
After taking all the advise on board, today i became the very proud owner of a e-pl1 twin lens kit ,many many thanks to all who commented ,you input was very helpfull.

Jerry

Jerry P
20th December 2011, 08:50 PM
Janet beat me to it !!!

Smiffy
21st December 2011, 07:46 AM
After taking all the advise on board, today i became the very proud owner of a e-pl1 twin lens kit ,many many thanks to all who commented ,you input was very helpfull.

Jerry


Congratulations Jerry. Hope you enjoy it.
I'm still chomping at the bit waiting for Christmas Day!!
Another shout for this book.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-PL1-Dummies-Lifestyles-Paperback/dp/0470879505/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Highly recommended (apparantly) to make life with the menu system a little easier. My Daughter has bought it for me for Xmas!!
*chr

Jerry P
21st December 2011, 08:14 AM
Hi Miffy,

thanks for the link to the book ,i bet you cant wait until Sunday ? ,ask your wife to charge the battery before she wraps it up ,otherwise you'll have to wait about 3 hours before you can switch it on !,not good if your wanting to play with your new toy .

Jerry

Smiffy
21st December 2011, 08:38 AM
Hi Miffy,

thanks for the link to the book ,i bet you cant wait until Sunday ? ,ask your wife to charge the battery before she wraps it up ,otherwise you'll have to wait about 3 hours before you can switch it on !,not good if your wanting to play with your new toy .

Jerry

Too late Jerry.
I did ask her if I could just recover the battery from the box but she wasn't playing ball mate.
Bought a couple of extra ones off of ebay for just under 9.00 the pair, so have plenty of them to charge!