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Ian
13th May 2008, 08:39 AM
Yes, the E-520's existence is official and will be available from next month (June). And here is the place to discuss the latest E-System camera on the Olympus E-System User Group :)

What are your impressions of the E-510 successor?

Ian

Chillimonster
13th May 2008, 08:44 AM
This should give the big 2 some opposition in the entry sector.

Along with the E-420 Olympus 'should' have the first time DSLR user market sorted (If they get the marketing right - always an Oly weakpoint in my opinion)

HughofBardfield
13th May 2008, 09:16 AM
Bit of a disappointment really. Don't see any real incentive to upgrade from the E510. The improvement between the E500 and E510 was more significant IMHO.

I'm sure the new super-wide zoom will be popular, however.

j.baker
13th May 2008, 09:25 AM
I agree. For a new buyer the E-520 looks great, but for existing E-510 users I think its difficult to justify upgrading.

Now the 9-18mm lens......I have already added that to my camera buy list. Roll on Q4.

Ian
13th May 2008, 10:05 AM
I agree. For a new buyer the E-520 looks great, but for existing E-510 users I think its difficult to justify upgrading.

Now the 9-18mm lens......I have already added that to my camera buy list. Roll on Q4.

:) I don't think Olympus would expect its faithful to have to shell out for a new camea just a year (or less) after the previous model came out. The changes are evolutionary. I took some great pictures with an E-510 (which Julia uses mainly at the moment) the other day. It's still a very fine camera.

But as you say, the E-420 and E-520 are in the front line to tempt people to become new members of the Four Thirds family.

Ian

j.baker
13th May 2008, 10:51 AM
If the new 9-18mm is build to the quality of the standard kit lenses, and at an affordable price, I think this will be a winner.

Yes, the 7-14mm will probably be way way better, but then the price is also way way higher.

Ian, when will you be able to bring us sample images from the new lens? I guess that they will be sending you one.....if they have not already :D

Ian
13th May 2008, 11:03 AM
If the new 9-18mm is build to the quality of the standard kit lenses, and at an affordable price, I think this will be a winner.

Yes, the 7-14mm will probably be way way better, but then the price is also way way higher.

Ian, when will you be able to bring us sample images from the new lens? I guess that they will be sending you one.....if they have not already :D

I'm popping down to Watford to pick up a shiny new E-520 later today, but the 9-18 isn't going to arrive until September, sorry.

Ian

Jim
13th May 2008, 02:34 PM
Do you see this announcement making much more of an impact on the current prices of the E-510?

snaarman
13th May 2008, 02:38 PM
Do you see this announcement making much more of an impact on the current prices of the E-510?

I, for one, hope so..

Still looking for a E-510 body, so new and cheap would be good :-)

Pete

shenstone
13th May 2008, 05:32 PM
At 1st glance it does seem eveolutionalry rather than revolutionary. The one feature that would interst me is the built in wireless flash control. However that would also mean upgrading flashguns

For those who don't like searching the link is here
http://www.olympus.co.uk/consumer/dslr_digital_slr_e-520_19285.htm

Regards
Andy

Chillimonster
13th May 2008, 05:53 PM
However that would also mean upgrading flashguns



Got a nice, new FL50-R in the for sale section ;)

Chris

yorky
13th May 2008, 05:57 PM
Too little to late, I see the E3 has already dropped to around £850. So why go along with this one! I think they at least should have gone along the manouverable screen line and weatherproofing.

Ian
13th May 2008, 06:10 PM
Too little to late, I see the E3 has already dropped to around 850. So why go along with this one! I think they at least should have gone along the manouverable screen line and weatherproofing.

No, I disagree - the E-3 and E-520 are completely different markets. The E-520 is much smaller, lighter and it has a more advanced implementation of Live View - all features that are important for standard consumer customers rather than 'serious' photographers.

http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/data/550/P5139501-2.jpg (http://fourthirds-user.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/5415)

Ian

Nova Invicta
13th May 2008, 08:13 PM
Looks pretty cool to me I think this could just tempt me to upgrade from my
E-500, June also puts:) me on holiday in Boston, Mass. so I will check out US pricing.

shenstone
13th May 2008, 08:24 PM
No, I disagree - the E-3 and E-520 are completely different markets. The E-520 is much smaller, lighter and it has a more advanced implementation of Live View - all features that are important for standard consumer customers rather than 'serious' photographers.

Ian

Sorry Ian, but that's about the first thing you have said on this forum that's upset me. I've been taking pictures for about 30 years, and although I don't always take the best I would like to consider myself "serious".

I have to disagree with both the prior posting and you. The E-3 can easily be considered an enthusuast camera - it's in the price range of a lot of people and there are a lot of people on this forum for whom it's not a professional tool and many who have it as a 1st DLSR. There are also a number of postings of them for sale from people who are moving to an E-510 from an E-3 does that make them less serious ?

Like many I've stayed with the E-510 because I like it AND I can't affort to upgrade all the time. I don't like being labelled as someone with an advanced P&S

What I think Olympus are missing is a "range" of top spec professional tools. The E-3 was a step in the right direction, but is it too little too late only time will tell as many established professionals jumped camp in the lean years and it's (I know one who did) and it's too risky to jump back again.

The E-520 looks a darn fine camera - so does the E-3 apart - I would struggle to decide which to buy if I was doing so because many of the "seperating features" are ones I would use so infrequently I could work around them.

Regards
Andy

Nova Invicta
13th May 2008, 08:46 PM
Andy looking at the lenses you own I would say its about the glass rather than the camera body. Yes the camera has all the functions but we always tell cinematographers that the camera is secondary to the lenses and these form the image and their is no short-cut to quality.

shenstone
13th May 2008, 08:55 PM
Andy looking at the lenses you own I would say its about the glass rather than the camera body. Yes the camera has all the functions but we always tell cinematographers that the camera is secondary to the lenses and these form the image and their is no short-cut to quality.

You have seen some of the point I made, but maybe not all. You can be "serious" without being able to afford the most expensive all the time.

e.g. for some it is written off as a business expense and for others it is not. I've always had to compromise and will probably not afford to purchase antthing more in the next few years having moved to digital. it's been pinful to get here, and here I have to stay

Regards
Andy

Scapula Memory
13th May 2008, 09:25 PM
Well spec wise I think you would have to be crazy to upgrade from 510 to 520, there really is not enough to warrant it, unless of course the cash is burning a hole in your pocket. But one question remains a bit of a mystery, and that is dpreview mentions Oly as saying that the 520 DR has been improved to near E3 levels. So what exactly has Oly done here?

Oh and Andy ( Shenstone ) I would tend to agree with you as I think of pro cameras as units that have sheer brute firing power and can be drop kicked by Petr Cech in a storm. Other than that not a lot different from main stream cameras especially where these days it is clever PP making the difference.

Ian
13th May 2008, 10:04 PM
Well spec wise I think you would have to be crazy to upgrade from 510 to 520, there really is not enough to warrant it, unless of course the cash is burning a hole in your pocket. But one question remains a bit of a mystery, and that is dpreview mentions Oly as saying that the 520 DR has been improved to near E3 levels. So what exactly has Oly done here?

Oh and Andy ( Shenstone ) I would tend to agree with you as I think of pro cameras as units that have sheer brute firing power and can be drop kicked by Petr Cech in a storm. Other than that not a lot different from main stream cameras especially where these days it is clever PP making the difference.

Regards the dynamic range, its generally assumed that the E-510 and E-410 have a 2nd generation LiveMOS sensor (first-generation being the sensors used in the E-330 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1. The second generation sensor is supposed to have the same DR despite the one third increase in pixel resolution from 7.5MP to 10MP. Normally, an increase in resolution across the same sensor area would mean a reduction in DR.

But Panasonic is improving the design of its sensors, reducing the area around the photosites taken up by circuit tracks. When the Panasonic Lumix DMC-L10 came out late last year, we were told that the DR had been improved again, making this a third-generation LiveMOS sensor. Olympus made similar claims compared to the E-510 when the E-3 was announced, so we assume that the DR of the E-3 LiveMOS chip is the same as the L10 sensor, and that same DR rating is featured in the E-420 and, now, the E-520. Simple really :)

I tended to find that the E-510 and the E-410 under-exposed, perhaps to preserve highlights. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Ian

yorky
14th May 2008, 08:06 AM
Regards the dynamic range, its generally assumed that the E-510 and E-410 have a 2nd generation LiveMOS sensor (first-generation being the sensors used in the E-330 and the Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1. The second generation sensor is supposed to have the same DR despite the one third increase in pixel resolution from 7.5MP to 10MP. Normally, an increase in resolution across the same sensor area would mean a reduction in DR.

But Panasonic is improving the design of its sensors, reducing the area around the photosites taken up by circuit tracks. When the Panasonic Lumix DMC-L10 came out late last year, we were told that the DR had been improved again, making this a third-generation LiveMOS sensor. Olympus made similar claims compared to the E-510 when the E-3 was announced, so we assume that the DR of the E-3 LiveMOS chip is the same as the L10 sensor, and that same DR rating is featured in the E-420 and, now, the E-520. Simple really :)

I tended to find that the E-510 and the E-410 under-exposed, perhaps to preserve highlights. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Ian
Ian, I too feel that there is a slight underexposure with the 510 as i have not been getting the ssame ammont of blown highlights as I did with the 500. With the 500 I always reduced the exposure by 1. 1/3rd.

blu-by-u
14th May 2008, 08:53 AM
Still not enough to move me from the E-330 I am now loving.

Graham_of_Rainham
14th May 2008, 08:57 AM
Ian,

Do you know if the E-520 has been setup to enable IS on OM lenses etc..

or will we need to download a patch. If so is that available ?

Yours "Seriously" :D

Graham

theMusicMan
14th May 2008, 10:35 AM
Ian,

Do you know if the E-520 has been setup to enable IS on OM lenses etc..

or will we need to download a patch. If so is that available ?

Yours "Seriously" :D

GrahamHi Graham

I see this has been answered by Ian over on FTU, but to confirm - yes, the E-520 can be set up to enable IS on OM legacy lenses.

You won't get AF of course, but IS - yes.

Bill Gordon
6th July 2008, 11:46 PM
I just got rid of the E-3 having carted it around London and other parts of England for a month and I found it to be much too heavy for me. I am looking at the 520 which I understand is smaller and lighter. I am sorry but I loved my E-1 and if they could put all that is in the 520, a smaller body, I just do not understand why they didn't put it all in the E-1 body! I have talked to other over on this side of the pond who have the same sentiments.:cool:

dennisg
9th July 2008, 01:18 AM
:rolleyes:The notion that one is better than the other is all subjective to me. I can go back to my film 35 mm without all of the technology these new horses have and produce some very nice exposures-enlargements. In this month's What Digital Camera from the UK, they compared the Sony Alpha 700, Nikon D300 and the Olympus E-3. At the end, the E-3 came in third.

Neverthelss, the camera, E-3 is a substantial horse and the only thing that the testers agreed with is the small 4/3 sensor does not have the same horsepower that the other larger sensor have.

I was shooting for the E-3 at $1600 for the body alone. For the same amount of money I can still hold on to my E500 and lenses, buy the E-520, and get the 12-60 zoom lens and have relatively comparable success with this rig.

So if we want to split hairs, yes the E-3 is better, but at what cost and satisfaction? We need to practice good photography practices and not depend on the hardware as much as we do. The other side is the software. There are packages that correct lenses, produce exposures to the old film types, compresion software, and a million manipulation packages. So if the camera(s) are SO good, why all the software aide? By the time a person gets done, they spend $700 (American) for the 520 body with the two kits lenses, and hundreds of dollars on software. Leading us all to believe that we need all of it.

I have been taking pictures for close to thirty years and my goal is to get it right at the time of the shot. So all the hupla about the E this and E this is very academic. It is all in then hands of the photographer. Depth of Field, Shutter Spend, Exposure Compensation, and composition. These are basics and we really dont need a $1600 camera to do all of this. We need to be frugal! Why? In a year from now, the E-3 will be an old has been and there will be another E5xx and E-x. The market dictates that new models be put out every so many months. The obsolecense is much higher with today's rigs than in was in the past.

Ask Ansel Adams how he did it with just a box camera? I think we would be amazed and it would bring us back to reality very quickly.

Dennis G

Graham_of_Rainham
9th July 2008, 12:53 PM
I used the new E-520 last month (Thanks Ian) and I thought it was brilliant. There will be some who will upgrade from the 510 but for the 3,4 & 500 users that have been waiting for an IS camera to come along, this has to be the one to go for.

The real "Wow" for me was the IS. It gave me such a significant increase in obtaining a usable image in low light, hand held situations, that this one feature alone is for me the biggest selling point. Add to this the Live View capability and it just gets better and better.

I have to admit I have just ordered an E-3, but if Father Christmas is tuned in... :D I'd love one for my "walkabouts"

Graham