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Haisbro
30th March 2008, 09:06 AM
The following images were taken using E3 and 50-200 SWD with EC14, it was too overcast for the EC20. There was a strong wind blowing down the length of the pitch. The venue was North Walsham and the game was a National Division 3 relegation fixture with both teams hoping to avoid the drop. I set up in the dead ball area behind posts.


I had covered a game here before using E3 and an old 50-200 lens and both EC14 and EC20. I had mixed results using this combination but a factor which has to be considered is my inexperience at sport, travel and landscape is my bag with Aperture priority always set on my cameras.

My mistake at the previous game was shutter speed,to slow, today I set the shutter speed to 1/800 second and ISO to auto but was at ISO 1000 or about for most of the game.F stop ranged between f5 and f7. I had ESP metering, single spot AF set to small.I used CAF and lock was ON. I normally shoot RAW but today JPEG large fine seemed the best option.IS was set to one and the camera and lens were handheld without mono pod or other support. Most of these settings are thanks to Wrotniak. He suggests not using Auto ISO but for me it was one less thing to worry about. I did notice towards the end of the game even ISO 1000 was not enough but that was all the camera was giving me on Auto, i wanted more perhaps i should have to enter the amount myself.ie Auto ISO max set to 1000?

As an ex player it certainly helps and at rucks and mauls you really had to open both eyes and watch which way the ball was going to travel, left right straight on, returning the camera to the eye and refocusing often meant that the first frame or two was lost. I found once the target was found the focus tracking kept on target. Following a continuous passage of play is very difficult, in reality there are short bursts of action and often it is not until after the game you see what you have taken. Having the ball in view makes sense of the mayhem! Images cropped to suit but otherwise as they came from the camera.




Breakaway, a passage of play into dead ball area. No try, a key moment in the game as it turned out as the ball carrier was prevented from touching down over the try line.

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=247&stc=1&d=1206863575

http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=249&stc=1&d=1206863743


http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250&stc=1&d=1206863792

North Walsham player being tackled


http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=251&stc=1&d=1206865685

Defender caught in possession near his own line.




http://e-group.uk.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=252&stc=1&d=1206865685

My conclusion about the E3 and the 50-200 SWD is that it is a marked improvement over the set up i used a few weeks earlier. I had learned from my own mistakes then and put it right today. The conditions were poor with a very strong wind and bad light. In the circumstances i ended up with useable images of rugby in action. There was little hunting apart from when it was self induced, i could track a passage of play and it remained in focus.
Cant wait to do it all again! Unfortunately Walsham lost.

Hi res images here

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4330




David:D

PeterD
30th March 2008, 09:29 AM
David,

A really good set of action images there. Thank you.

I was really pleased to read your preamble to the shoot and share the settings/equipment used and the reasons. This sort of background information helps all of us. You set out to improve and felt that you had. Your images demonstrate the quality of the equipment selected for the shoot.

Well done

PeterD

Haisbro
30th March 2008, 10:36 AM
Thanks for your comments, I was a bit out of my comfort zone but i really want to learn about this camera more than any camera i have ever bought. Its an enjoyable experience.


David.

theMusicMan
30th March 2008, 11:05 AM
Hey David - I think these shots are suffering from considerable over-compression when you saved them as jpg's to upload here. I can spot many jpg artifacts in them that detract from the quality of the original image.

Maybe you can re-save them but at a higher quality level, 70-90 percent would be fine, there's enough room in the gallery here - Ian is quite generous like that... ;)

DerekW
30th March 2008, 11:30 AM
I think that with the E3 and it's improved medium to high ISO performance we have access to slightly new way of shooting using auto ISO. Ie set up your preferred shutter and aperture settings and then let the camera do the rest. Allow this to be a sweeping statement that has many exceptions as theere are readers of this forum.

My habit with the E1 was to have the ISO as the fixed item (which it was unless using flash - from what I could gather) and then juggle with the shutter and aperture settings (or use P <g>)

Haisbro
30th March 2008, 01:26 PM
Hey David - I think these shots are suffering from considerable over-compression when you saved them as jpg's to upload here. I can spot many jpg artifacts in them that detract from the quality of the original image.

Maybe you can re-save them but at a higher quality level, 70-90 percent would be fine, there's enough room in the gallery here - Ian is quite generous like that... ;)

I have posted a few more images in my gallery for those interested.

David

theMusicMan
30th March 2008, 01:57 PM
Fancy linking them back here... :)

Haisbro
30th March 2008, 03:51 PM
I would if i could, but i can't, help!!:eek:

David

Err yes i can

See original thread.