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David Morison
24th January 2011, 12:32 PM
At the moment my widest lens is a Leica 14-150mm but I am needing something wider for landscapes etc. My Choices appear to be between 7-14, 9-18, 11-22 or Sigma 10-20. I realize the huge differences in price and size but which one is considered the best buy in terms of performance v price. If I need to I will go for the most pricey but only if it is the best value based on the above criteria. Weather-proofing would be useful but not essential as is robustness - it won't get used very often.

Thanks

David

Graham_of_Rainham
24th January 2011, 12:42 PM
The 7-14 will provide you with everything you need for wide angle.

Most important you will have maximum range of focal length with no wasted overlap.

I sometime restrict my self to one lens and the 7-14 is often the chosen one one such days out.

*chr

Kiwi Paul
24th January 2011, 01:37 PM
Personally despite the 11-22 being a great lens I don't think there is enough difference from 14mm to 11mm to justify it, I would narrow it down to the 9-18 or 7-14, I think they both will perform better than the Sigma.
Although the 7-14 is weather proof it's a bit pointless as it pretty much impossible keeping rain off the front element but it's an excellent lens, bigger and heavier than the 9-18 and over double the price too but a stella performer. I sold my 9-18 after getting the 7-14 and wouldn't go back, but in saying that the 9-18 is also an excellent lens, particularly good value for money, smallish, lightish and a very useful focal range.
so to sum up the 7-14 is the ultimate but , big and expensive, the 9-18 is fine and much better value for money.

Paul

The Saint
24th January 2011, 01:37 PM
Personally I prefer the 11-22mm, the range it provides is idea for my type of landscape work and the weight/size is not to cumbsome for a day out walking.

The 9-18 is very good for the price, but it does show edge distort at the wide end, this is most noticible when there are strong lines in the image (eg. architectural images) but can be hidden with good composure.

I did borrow someones 7-14mm for the day and it is a lovely lens but I couldn't justify the cost. If you want to ultimate in wide angle and quality to match this is the lense to have, but at more than double the cost of the 11-22mm you have to consider what you could get with saving!

You can't use filters on the 7-14mm, so if that is something your interested in it many rule the lense out.



Simon

photo_owl
24th January 2011, 03:11 PM
don't ignore the 12-60

the difference between 14 and 12 on 43 is very significant

whilst the 7-14 is 'special' I tend to use it for architectural shots more than landscapes (now that I have the 12-60)

the 9-18 is no slouch either, it's almost become the forgotten lens. downside is weatherproofing in relation to your specifications.

gregles
24th January 2011, 03:31 PM
I have no complaints regarding the sigma 10-20mm:)

Greg

sapper
24th January 2011, 03:56 PM
At the moment my widest lens is a Leica 14-150mm but I am needing something wider for landscapes etc. My Choices appear to be between 7-14, 9-18, 11-22 or Sigma 10-20. I realize the huge differences in price and size but which one is considered the best buy in terms of performance v price. If I need to I will go for the most pricey but only if it is the best value based on the above criteria. Weather-proofing would be useful but not essential as is robustness - it won't get used very often.

Thanks

David
I use the 12-60 for most of my photography, landscape or not. I do own a 7-14mm but cannot ever remember using it for landscape work.
It is a cracking lens though.

Shaw
24th January 2011, 07:09 PM
John Foster has reviewed the Zuiko lenses you have shortlisted here (http://www.biofos.com/content.html)

R MacE
24th January 2011, 07:56 PM
For landscapes it probably either the 9-18 or 11-22, IMO the 7-14 is too specialised, I tried one and found that on overcast/cloudy days it's hard to expose for the foreground without blowing out the highlights and you can't use filters. I'd say it's the easiest of those mentioned to rule out, if you need it you'll know, if you're unsure, well.........

I use the 11-22, I bought it before either the Sigma 10-20 or Zuiko 9-18 were released, a bit heavy (used on an E-420) but not outrageously so, well balanced on an E-1 or E-3. It's splashproof which is a consideration if you have an E-3/5 although that said I find my E-420 has thus far handled wet conditions with ease, I'd be more concerned about lenses in wet conditions.

9-18 obviously slower than the 11-22 but for landscapes I'll assume you're using a tripod anyway so speed is less of a concern. Personally I could use the additional 2mm at the wide end. The distortion might be a problem but I think for landscapes the distortion on the 9-18 is less of a concern than it would be if you were shooting architecture.

Sigma 10-20 My mate has one which he uses on his D90, results look ok to me and the lens feels nice enough. Given the choice I'd prefer the 11-22 though. Take the 2x factor into account against Nikon 1.5x factor and I'd probably opt for the 9-18 especially as you're specifically looking for a wide lens and you're even considering the 7-14

12-60 By all accounts a great lens (never tried one) but IMO while it may be a substitute for an 11-22 and 14-54 if you're looking for a wide angle forget it.

So, either the 9-18 or 11-22, if you have an E-3/5 or even E-1 there's more reason to go for the 11-22, if you don't have a splashproof body and aren't intending to use it wide open then the 9-18 may be the one.

David Morison
26th January 2011, 09:03 PM
Thank you all for your comments. Considering everything I am opting for the 9-18, reviews I've read say it's performance is amazing considering it's only a standard lens. OK it is slower than the 7-14 (only 1 stop) but that is a minor consideration with IS and the good noise characteristics of the E5 (although I will also be using it with the E30) and I will be looking at max DOF with this type of lens. Also as it is for specific purposes only it will spend a good deal of time in the bag so size and weight versus performance is an issue. The lack of weatherproofing is not important as the type of subject I intend to use it for will not mean me venturing out in bad weather. As far as I am aware my Leica 14-150mm is not weatherproof (although it should be for 1300!) and I have never had any problems with that. All I need now is to get the best value for money - anyone any adverse comments about Camerabox? (390!)

Regards

David

pepper
26th January 2011, 09:12 PM
Camerabox is a bit marmite, I've bought. 6 cameras from them and had great service. Others if you google them tell a different story.

Put it this way, I'd buy from them again. The other person to try would be Kerso he's on Ebay, but if you deal direct then you'll get a better price, I'll PM you his email address and you can see if he can help you.

Shaw
26th January 2011, 10:21 PM
As pepper says, Kerso is great to deal with, and his prices direct rather than his Ebay site are probably better than most.

Kiwi Paul
27th January 2011, 12:06 AM
I'll recommend him too, I have bought stuff from him and saved a lot of money.

Paul

Batman
3rd August 2011, 03:34 PM
I have seen many references to Kerso. The other day he was selling on ebay a 9-18mm. I cannot now find his advert and also note that many members have suggested emailing him direct for his best price.

Could someone please PM me his address so that I can contact him?

Thanks.

abacus180
3rd August 2011, 03:56 PM
can you PM me Kerso's email address / phone number

Shaw
3rd August 2011, 04:04 PM
can you PM me Kerso's email address / phone number

PM sent with email address.

Nick Temple-Fry
3rd August 2011, 04:05 PM
Kerso has enabled the feature to be e-mailed directly from the group - just go to Members List - Kerso - Contact Info, haven't tried it myself but maybe one of you can and report back if it works (give him time to reply).

Nick

Shaw
3rd August 2011, 04:06 PM
I have seen many references to Kerso. The other day he was selling on ebay a 9-18mm. I cannot now find his advert and also note that many members have suggested emailing him direct for his best price.

Could someone please PM me his address so that I can contact him?

Thanks.

PM sent with email address.

Batman
3rd August 2011, 04:14 PM
Thanks Stewart and Nick. I will give him a try.

Batman
3rd August 2011, 04:22 PM
Also thanks to David.