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geirsan
5th December 2010, 11:58 AM
I have the 14-54 v.1 and whish to go a little more wide angle. I've dropped the idea of the 11-22, and the 7-14 has to wait till I win the lotteries.
My question is simple and difficult: Is the 12-60 a better lens than the 14-54v2 or are the quality differences marginal? I understand that the 12-60 is a speed demon on focusing, but wonder why Olympus chose to make a new 14-54 right after producing the 12-60. Can someone please explain?

snaarman
5th December 2010, 12:19 PM
StephenL might be the person to ask.

IIRC he had a 14-54 mk1, sold it to get the 12-60, then sold that to get the 14-54 mk2 :o

Pete

Serhan
5th December 2010, 01:13 PM
If you won't sell the 14-54mm I'd go for the 9-18mm - good focal range coverage by excellent quality :)

theMusicMan
5th December 2010, 02:02 PM
The two options for you (as you have discounted the 7-14mm) are the 11-22mm and 9-18mm. Both are very capable lenses, the 11-22mm especially so I am unsure why you have dropped that idea. I have one and it is excellent. I have also used the 9-18mm which produces superb result for a budget lens.

David M
5th December 2010, 02:34 PM
The 12-60 is obviously wider and longer than the 14-54 and my sample is significantly better than the copy of the 14-54 mk1 I used to own.

However the 12-60 does suffer some complex distortion at the wide end. I don't usually find it a problem unless I'm shooting landscapes with straight horizons. In those circumstances I use the 7-14 at the long end.

Greytop
5th December 2010, 03:32 PM
Another vote for the 9-18 if environmental sealing is not a must for you.
I've haven't owned one but from reviews on web and user feedback it seems to be a real bargain given it's optical performance.

Ulfric M Douglas
5th December 2010, 04:06 PM
... Olympus chose to make a new 14-54 right after producing the 12-60. Can someone please explain?
Improvements to allow better use of the newer CDAF focusing, and 'rounder' aperture blades.
Wierdly, my MkI focuses fine using the e-600 live-view. :confused:
Also, the round bright points in my out-of-focus backgrounds look round enough to me.

StephenL
5th December 2010, 06:10 PM
Pete is correct. I did indeed follow that path.

My reasons were manyfold.

Firstly, although I found the 12-60 a stellar lens, and I wasn't bothered by any distortion, in my hands it's ergonomically awkward. Too fat.

Secondly, I wanted the Mk2 for faster contrast-detect autofocus on my then-newly acquired m4/3 system.

And thirdly, some of the best photos I've personally taken were with the Mk1 before I sold it. So I wanted another. Hindsight being a wonderful thing. And subsequent photos, such as the one in my gallery of Bow Fiddle Rock, were taken with the 14-54 Mk2.

I would buy another 12-60, but only if there was nothing else I wanted more, and I could still keep my 14-54 Mk2.

BTW the 12-60 is great with the EC14, and that combination is astonishingly useful.

StephenL might be the person to ask.

IIRC he had a 14-54 mk1, sold it to get the 12-60, then sold that to get the 14-54 mk2 :o

Pete

stevednp3
6th December 2010, 12:54 AM
I upgraded from the 14-54 mk1 to the 12-60 and I found that quality was only marginally better (the 14-54 is an amazing lens), but the focusing is lighting fast, this with slighty better iq I thought was worth the money.

The distortion is only really on 12mm goto 13mm and its gone, but its not that bad anyway

Hope this helps :)

brosenz
23rd January 2011, 04:33 PM
Currently I am using the 12-60mm f/2.8-4.0 in Live View and it's slow, I've read that the 14-54mm II lens is optimized for Live View AF, now is that fast ?, like the GH1+14-140mm lens ?, I am just thinking for the point of view if the investment is worth or not ?, thanks

NOTE: I am using the lens with the E-5

Greytop
23rd January 2011, 04:52 PM
Currently I am using the 12-60mm f/2.8-4.0 in Live View and it's slow, I've read that the 14-54mm II lens is optimized for Live View AF, now is that fast ?, like the GH1+14-140mm lens ?, I am just thinking for the point of view if the investment is worth or not ?, thanks

NOTE: I am using the lens with the E-5

Which revision firmware are you running for the 12-60?
Oly recently released v1.2 which improved focussing with the E-5.

brosenz
23rd January 2011, 05:02 PM
Which revision firmware are you running for the 12-60?
Oly recently released v1.2 which improved focussing with the E-5.

Hi, yes I have 1.2, but even with the E-5 and 1.2 firmware it's very slow compared to the GH1 + 14-140 lens.

Greytop
23rd January 2011, 05:34 PM
Hi, yes I have 1.2, but even with the E-5 and 1.2 firmware it's very slow compared to the GH1 + 14-140 lens.

Ah OK, to honest I don't use LV a whole lot but I'm OK with focus speed with the 12-60. Mind you I don't have a Pany m4/3 camera to compare it with ;)

Actually I only tend to use LV when shooting macro or close ups and even then probably less than 50% of the time.