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theMusicMan
7th March 2008, 10:30 PM
Hi All

I am starting to look around for the Sigma Bigma 50-500mm lens and am wondering if anyone has come across any super deals.

The best I can find isn't what I think is the best you could find... fancy helping me out...? :)

emirpprime
8th March 2008, 08:31 AM
The best I've seen is warehouseexpress.co.uk at 728! Not exactly a good deal. No one seems to be reducing it much :( Perhaps as are at the end of a Sigma lot (as the only make them in short runs, switching between diff manufacturers). However they are going for approx £500 in the US. Might be worth talking to Kerso or even arlingtoncamera to see what they would charge (the latter in case you dont know is a USA company but they are happy to ship to the UK).
Good hunting!
Phil

Nick Temple-Fry
8th March 2008, 09:41 AM
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However they are going for approx 500 in the US. Might be worth talking to Kerso or even arlingtoncamera to see what they would charge (the latter in case you dont know is a USA company but they are happy to ship to the UK).
Good hunting!
Phil

Might be worth checking the guarantee status - as Sigma is reputed to have some issues with initial quality control.

Nick

Jim Ford
8th March 2008, 10:12 AM
As I posted in a previous thread, SRS in Watford have/had a second-hand but unused 'Bigma' for 629.

Jim

scanny
9th March 2008, 01:07 AM
Try ebay. I got one for £400!! too good to efuse even if there as no serial no or warranty which i found out when it arrived. Swapped fo one with a serial by the seller. Worth a try if you want one as low cost as possible

PeterD
9th March 2008, 01:16 AM
John,

I received a quote yesterday from our friend in Scotland (Ian Kerr). It was:

Hi Peter, Thanks for your enquiry.
Prices away from Ebay are:
50-500mm 590 & 20
All lenses have 1 year International warranty.

Yes, I too have been thinking about it ever since those recent images were posted:cool::D

I have yet to get clearance from 'she who be obeyed'. Any suggestions for my opening line with her;)?

PeterD

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 07:07 AM
John,

I received a quote yesterday from our friend in Scotland (Ian Kerr). It was:

Hi Peter, Thanks for your enquiry.
Prices away from Ebay are:
50-500mm 590 & 20
All lenses have 1 year International warranty.

Yes, I too have been thinking about it ever since those recent images were posted:cool::D

I have yet to get clearance from 'she who be obeyed'. Any suggestions for my opening line with her;)?

PeterD


How about... "I can get greater reach with a Bigma darling..."...:)

PeterD
9th March 2008, 07:46 AM
How about... "I can get greater reach with a Bigma darling..."...:)

Hmmmm. I shall have to think about that. Cheers John and good morning.

PeterD

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 07:48 AM
Hmmmm. I shall have to think about that. Cheers John and good morning.

PeterDMorning Peter... didn't mean to offend ya... sorry if I did.:o

PeterD
9th March 2008, 07:59 AM
Morning Peter... didn't mean to offend ya... sorry if I did.:o

John,

I am sorry too. I am not offended by your comments and cannot see why you think I might be:D.

Interesting as your suggestion might be, I am not sure that it will work to secure permission:(. I shall have to think of other lines.

I note that you too are more interested in th Bigma.

PeterD

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 08:05 AM
John,

I am sorry too. I am not offended by your comments and cannot see why you think I might be:D.

Interesting as your suggestion might be, I am not sure that it will work to secure permission:(. I shall have to think of other lines.

I note that you too are more interested in th Bigma.

PeterDSo easy to misinterpret the written word eh Peter... I just wanted to make sure all was OK that's all, glad it is.

Oh yes... I am most certainly considering the Bigma, I have seen some superb images taken with this camera. Not too many with an Oly camera though, most were on Canikons - but I know the E-3 is capable of superb performance and I am sure the lens is up to scratch. So it's a combination of the classic triumvirate partnership eh... camera, lens and user...:)

I am really tempted to purchase the lens before I should do so, so if you happen to come up with a winning line for da' boss, please be sure to let me know so I can use it too yeah :D

PeterD
9th March 2008, 08:18 AM
So easy to misinterpret the written word eh Peter... I just wanted to make sure all was OK that's all, glad it is.

Oh yes... I am most certainly considering the Bigma, I have seen some superb images taken with this camera. Not too many with an Oly camera though, most were on Canikons - but I know the E-3 is capable of superb performance and I am sure the lens is up to scratch. So it's a combination of the classic triumvirate partnership eh... camera, lens and user...:)

I am really tempted to purchase the lens before I should do so, so if you happen to come up with a winning line for da' boss, please be sure to let me know so I can use it too yeah :D

Remember John, we have a promise of more images to come with the Olympus cameras:D. I agree even the Canon devotees seem willing to jump ship from their L series lenses to the Bigma. The interesting thing is that the 70-300 + ec14 arrive at the same f-stop as the Bigma but the Bigma adds a further 75mm in focal length. Also the Bigma would create a useful overlap with the 12-60 lens. It would mean of course me selling the 70-300 as it would be redundant. See, I am trying to develop a convincing line.....;):D.


PeterD

art frames
9th March 2008, 09:23 AM
Peter and John

I too was very impressed by the Bigma pictures and may persuade myself to get one. I wonder if Kerso would be able to get a better price himself from Sigma if we made a buying commitment for 3?

I had previously asked him for a price on the 2.0 teleconverter but I am worried about the loss of two stops on the 50-200 which isn't always a positive focus lock even now. I would love to find a supplier with all of the options to try side by side rather than working on rumour and reviews. Perhaps a huge get together could be planned to try things with a willing supplier.

Having read Peter's current thought that he might sell the 70-300 I do worry about seeing the Bigma as replacing anything else as to me it is a specialist use extra lens. I would only pack it when I was going to be wanting to use it.

Peter

j.baker
9th March 2008, 10:28 AM
If I can get the money (that I am expecting) by the end of this month, I am looking to get the "Bigma"

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 11:05 AM
With regard to selling my 70-300mm if I bought the Bigma... this really would depend on the quality of results I was able to obtain with the Bigma. It has taken me a few months now to be able to get somewhat consistent results with the 70-300mm, but I am extremely happy with what I manage to get it to produce. i am certain that more experienced photographers would be able to get even better results from it, but at least I am happy with my results.

If I was able to achieve the same output from the Bigma - given the learning curve I'd have to go through, then and only then would I consider selling my 70-300mm.

Isn't it funny how one strikes up a loving relationship ones gear... sad eh...:)

PeterD
9th March 2008, 11:37 AM
The only trouble is, that I may have to sell the 70-300 as a compromise. I still have to look for more compromises though as I don't think that will be enough. I need a monopod too - oh shucks:(.

PeterD

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 11:41 AM
The only trouble is, that I may have to sell the 70-300 as a compromise. I still have to look for more compromises though as I don't think that will be enough. I need a monopod too - oh shucks:(.

PeterDHey Peter

I have found that a momopod certainly does help, but I have only used this when out and about with the 70-300mm. All my garden bird shots are hand held without the monopod.

I do use the monopod when I take shots of Heathers rugby games though.

Come to think of it... I must apologise to someone here as I am sure I remember being asked if I would give a review on the monopod I have... darned it... very sorry if you're reading this. I must have a look for the request and get around to posting a review.

ianc
9th March 2008, 12:11 PM
I think selling a 70-300mm to get the Bigma would be a big mistake. The Bigma is a fine lens but it weighs 1842g which is 1222g more than the, relatively light 620g, 70-300mm. It's not something your going to stick in your bag just incase where as you will carry the 70-300mm. Don't get me wrong I would like to get the Bigma eventually, the ZD7-14mm is next on my shopping list, but it will be as an addition to my ZD50-200mm and when I have it I would expect to take more pictures with the 50-200mm because it will be with me more often. Of course this is just my 2p worth and we must all make our own decisions.

Ian C.

PeterD
9th March 2008, 12:21 PM
I think selling a 70-300mm to get the Bigma would be a big mistake. The Bigma is a fine lens but it weighs 1842g which is 1222g more than the, relatively light 620g, 70-300mm. It's not something your going to stick in your bag just incase where as you will carry the 70-300mm. Don't get me wrong I would like to get the Bigma eventually, the ZD7-14mm is next on my shopping list, but it will be as an addition to my ZD50-200mm and when I have it I would expect to take more pictures with the 50-200mm because it will be with me more often. Of course this is just my 2p worth and we must all make our own decisions.

Ian C.

Thanks Ian for your comments above.
I suppose that your comments re the weight are perfectly correct and I must admit that I had not fully considered this aspect. I was too lost in the image quality etc. You have just removed one of my potential compromises:(.

Getting back to the 70-300 lens. I have found the centre of balance when fitted to the camera, is ahead of the camera body and as such is not balanced when fitted to a tripod. Is there a collar available for this lens?

PeterD

Andrew Riddell
9th March 2008, 01:19 PM
Getting back to the 70-300 lens. I have found the centre of balance when fitted to the camera, is ahead of the camera body and as such is not balanced when fitted to a tripod. Is there a collar available for this lens?


I have the same concern. However, a collar could only fit without affecting moving parts on the stepped area immediately in front of the lens mount (difficult to achieve a good fit) or the narrow area between the zoom and focus rings (too far forward for balance).

I'm trying to cobble something together using an old 2-rail focussing rack with a bit of support rammed in between the rails to hit between the moveable rings on the lens. Door stops and wine corks are on trial so far:D

Andrew

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 01:28 PM
I appreciate the concerns here, but as long as one attaches the camera to a sturdy monopod or tripod, you should be OK. I have the manfrotto 681 pro monopod with ball and socket head, and all is fine when I use mine.

PeterD
9th March 2008, 01:37 PM
I have the same concern. However, a collar could only fit without affecting moving parts on the stepped area immediately in front of the lens mount (difficult to achieve a good fit) or the narrow area between the zoom and focus rings (too far forward for balance).

I'm trying to cobble something together using an old 2-rail focussing rack with a bit of support rammed in between the rails to hit between the moveable rings on the lens. Door stops and wine corks are on trial so far:D

Andrew

Sounds interesting Andrew

I do have one advantage in that I am also using an Ec14 with the lens.Balance point looks to be approx on the barrel of the EC14 so an attachment here is quite posible.
Please let me know how you get on.

PeterD

PeterD
9th March 2008, 01:39 PM
I appreciate the concerns here, but as long as one attaches the camera to a sturdy monopod or tripod, you should be OK. I have the manfrotto 681 pro monopod with ball and socket head, and all is fine when I use mine.

I am afraid I purchased my tripod when I bought my E500 with kit lens. The unbalanced weight of the E3 + 70-300 lens makes its use imposible. Careful, you are getting me into thinking I need even more compromises:D.

PeterD

DerekC
9th March 2008, 07:44 PM
The 'Bigma' is on my shopping list too. I have the 70-300 which I really like I have used a lot recently on motorsport and have found it easy to use and have got some very good results with it. I don't find a problem with balance but then I haven't used it with a EC14. Would I sell the 70-300 to buy the 'Bigma' No this lens is so light and compact I wouldn't to give that up. I've been out today using it at a Rally filled a 4gb card, I'm happy I came away with good keep rate.
This was taken on my 1st time out with the 70-300 on a very cold and wet Rally GB Eypnt Wales
http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/504/Hirvonen.jpg

Derek C

PeterD
9th March 2008, 07:56 PM
Thats a great action shot Derek.

PeterD

theMusicMan
9th March 2008, 07:59 PM
Woah Derek... fantastic panning technique there... great shot.

How's the dirty E-3 performing then :)

DerekC
9th March 2008, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the comments. John the E-3 fine cleaned it the dust proofing works come up spotless nothing inside. The Rally I went today was good Sun came out but dry and dusty roads hair and face covered in it as well as the camera.

Here's one from today all I've done is change the file size. http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/data/500/Sherwood_Forest_Stages_Rally-2_copy.jpg

Regards

Derek C

Andrew Riddell
10th March 2008, 12:16 AM
Sounds interesting Andrew

I do have one advantage in that I am also using an Ec14 with the lens.Balance point looks to be approx on the barrel of the EC14 so an attachment here is quite posible.
Please let me know how you get on.

PeterD

I'm glad you said that, because I recently bought an EC14 on e..y and had forgotten that anything I cobble together needs to cope with it as well. Moveable or multiple corks, I suspect!

Andrew